Go Figure

namenotavailablE · 11-08-2014 10:51PM

N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

namenotavailablE · 11-08-2014 10:53PM

nopqrstuvwxyz

namenotavailablE · 11-08-2014 10:54PM

A B C D E F G H I J K L M

namenotavailablE · 11-08-2014 11:01PM

Xorex

namenotavailablE · 11-08-2014 11:01PM

Xreox

namenotavailablE · 11-08-2014 11:01PM

Xeorx

Xhu · 11-08-2014 11:43PM

TommieBoy wrote: »

TWO

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TommieBoy wrote: »

two

0

TommieBoy wrote: »

Two

1

TommieBoy wrote: »

three

0

TommieBoy wrote: »

THREE

0

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Zero one Zero

0

namenotavailabl wrote: »

zero one

0

namenotavailabl wrote: »

zero one zero

0

namenotavailabl wrote: »

N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

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namenotavailabl wrote: »

nopqrstuvwxyz

2

namenotavailabl wrote: »

A B C D E F G H I J K L M

1

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Xorex

7

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Xreox

0

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Xeorx

0

namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 12:06AM

First off- this is extremely difficult!

Here are some points spotted to date but there is no way that any semblance of a pattern has been identified. I've played with # of vowels and consonants, Scrabble values of letters, binary and ASCII code of characters- all to no avail.

1. Capitalised words score differently from non-capitalised words
2. Spacing of characters impacts on the scores
3. Sequences of letters impacts on the scores
4. There is no apparent score for non alpha-numeric characters.
5. Numeric values don't tend to get high scores

I think participants are going to need a little prod in the right direction because the scores are so random (viz Xerox, Xorex, Xreox and Xeorx scoring 248,7,0,0 respectively) that i suspect the thread will die pretty quickly if we have to keep thrashing about aimlessly.

TommieBoy · 12-08-2014 12:33AM

Xhu wrote:

The goal is that you guys make your own hints through your posts. I'll try to keep it challenging but (at least in the early rounds) never unfair. And I think there's plenty of hints in these scores here.

Didn't mean to imply your challenge was unfair Xhu...
LOL, your thought of "plenty of hints" may appear as give-away clues to one who knows the calculable factor, but no perceptible pattern has appeared thus far, even with an expert mind working on decrypting the code (not referring to self).

I was simply wondering, if after a few days, you might narrow down the algorithymic scope just a bit... Such broad parameters impedes deductive reasoning.... Your point allocation could be based on a limitless number of possibilities: mathematical (euclidean algorithm?), probability, compound statistics, scientific (the periodic table of elements perhaps), linguistical, alphabetical (or a combination of keystrokes?), numerical, cultural (you could be issuing a value to the keys of a chinese keyboard), technological (binary codes?), mechanical contrivances, board games (scrabble's been mentioned), numerology, even pure randomness, etc... or any combination of those factors can make effective calculability impossible with only scores to go by.

Tis like finding a needle in a haystack without a wee bit of direction. Have mercy on us mortals, after a time Xhu - a challenge is one thing, but an Everest is quite another

Answer me this Xhu..... which score would you consider the most revealing so far, hint-wise?

namenotavailabl wrote: »

I think participants are going to need a little prod in the right direction ...that i suspect the thread will die pretty quickly if we have to keep thrashing about aimlessly.

(I took the spoiler alert off this part, hope that's ok)
I fully concur with ^ him.
(you said it much more concisely than I, thank you namenot)

Xhu · 12-08-2014 04:09AM

namenotavailabl wrote: »

First off- this is extremely difficult!

Here are some points spotted to date but there is no way that any semblance of a pattern has been identified. I've played with # of vowels and consonants, Scrabble values of letters, binary and ASCII code of characters- all to no avail.

1. Capitalised words score differently from non-capitalised words
2. Spacing of characters impacts on the scores
3. Sequences of letters impacts on the scores
4. There is no apparent score for non alpha-numeric characters.
5. Numeric values don't tend to get high scores

I think participants are going to need a little prod in the right direction because the scores are so random (viz Xerox, Xorex, Xreox and Xeorx scoring 248,7,0,0 respectively) that i suspect the thread will die pretty quickly if we have to keep thrashing about aimlessly.

65

TommieBoy wrote: »

Didn't mean to imply your challenge was unfair Xhu...
LOL, your thought of "plenty of hints" may appear as give-away clues to one who knows the calculable factor, but no perceptible pattern has appeared thus far, even with an expert mind working on decrypting the code (not referring to self).

I was simply wondering, if after a few days, you might narrow down the algorithymic scope just a bit... Such broad parameters impedes deductive reasoning.... Your point allocation could be based on a limitless number of possibilities: mathematical (euclidean algorithm?), probability, compound statistics, scientific (the periodic table of elements perhaps), linguistical, alphabetical (or a combination of keystrokes?), numerical, cultural (you could be issuing a value to the keys of a chinese keyboard), technological (binary codes?), mechanical contrivances, board games (scrabble's been mentioned), numerology, even pure randomness, etc... or any combination of those factors can make effective calculability impossible with only scores to go by.

Tis like finding a needle in a haystack without a wee bit of direction. Have mercy on us mortals, after a time Xhu - a challenge is one thing, but an Everest is quite another

Answer me this Xhu..... which score would you consider the most revealing so far, hint-wise?

(I took the spoiler alert off this part, hope that's ok)
I fully concur with ^ him.
(you said it much more concisely than I, thank you namenot)

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I understand and the game is indeed challenging but all I can say is to trust me. I've done this before and all rounds were solved without hints within a week (albeit with more players). The last time this round was solved by 7 players after 23 posts. I know it might be frustrating to not see it, but this particular round has an answer that will hit someone like a freight train. My only advice would be to think outside the box a little: this is a little different from the other rounds and in a way, it's simpler than the first two. Good luck!

TommieBoy · 12-08-2014 04:41AM

Then my vote is that you are assigning points in sheer random order in this latest round.

TommieBoy · 12-08-2014 04:48AM

Xhu wrote: »

I understand and the game is indeed challenging but all I can say is to trust me. I've done this before and all rounds were solved without hints within a week (albeit with more players). The last time this round was solved by 7 players after 23 posts. I know it might be frustrating to not see it, but this particular round has an answer that will hit someone like a freight train. My only advice would be to think outside the box a little: this is a little different from the other rounds and in a way, it's simpler than the first two. Good luck!

Ok, but don't be surprised to find Namenots fair warning: " ...that i suspect the thread will die pretty quickly if we have to keep thrashing about aimlessly" is a high probability. We are already down to 2 players... and this player is quickly losing interest.

Xhu · 12-08-2014 04:51AM

TommieBoy wrote: »

Then my vote is that you are assigning points in sheer random order in this latest round.

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TommieBoy wrote: »

Ok, but don't be surprised to find Namenots fair warning: " ...that i suspect the thread will die pretty quickly if we have to keep thrashing about aimlessly" is a high probability. We are already down to 2 players... and this player is quickly losing interest.

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Maybe you just need some sleep. ;P

As for the two players, I guess there never was much interest. I take the blame for that; the OP wasn't great but it was based on the idea that I really wanted to say as little as possible in this thread and let people self-organise and figure it out. If the game doesn't work out, I'm okay with that. But if I start giving out hints now or respond too much to posts, I feel it will ruin the premise of the game. Hence I'm really going silent now. Let's see if the mystery of Round 3 will be solved before the deadline.

Xhu · 12-08-2014 06:00AM

TommieBoy wrote: »

I am going to ignore that slight and take your example of going quiet too. Glad to hear you're ok if the game doesn't work, I've come to the same conclusion. Here's to hoping others don't self-organise themselves out of the game. Pity too, this thread could've been fun ....with realistic boundaries and deducible parameters.

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I'm sorry. I didn't mean it as a slight. The wink was because I'm awake too. Likewise I hope you choose to keep playing.

Encrypted Pigeon · 12-08-2014 04:54PM

Then my vote is that you are assigning points in sheer random order in this latest round.

Xhu · 12-08-2014 07:26PM

Encrypted Pigeon wrote: »

Then my vote is that you are assigning points in sheer random order in this latest round.

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namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 07:32PM

Are points related to time of posting?

Xhu · 12-08-2014 07:46PM

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Are points related to time of posting?

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namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 08:53PM

Here is a post.

namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 08:54PM

Here is a post

namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 08:56PM

Here is a post

Encrypted Pigeon · 12-08-2014 08:57PM

Then my vote is that you are assigning points in sheer random order in this latest round.

namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 09:05PM

Predicted score is possibly 121,81 or 853 for first "Here is a post" depending on methodology being used. Subsequent ones either 1 and 2 or 854 and 856.

Xhu · 12-08-2014 10:26PM

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Here is a post.

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namenotavailabl wrote: »

Here is a post

1

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Here is a post

2

Encrypted Pigeon wrote: »

Then my vote is that you are assigning points in sheer random order in this latest round.

1

namenotavailabl wrote: »

Predicted score is possibly 121,81 or 853 for first "Here is a post" depending on methodology being used. Subsequent ones either 1 and 2 or 854 and 856.

8

I need to hear the rule.

namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 10:40PM

The score is based on the time of the person's post. You reset the clock each day and whatever time the person first posts, that is the score e.g. if I post at 08:15, the score is 815.
Any subsequent post by the same person that day is based on an increment from the preceding post so if I post twice at 09:00 the first one is scored 45 and the second is scored 0. If multiple people are posting, then it's incremental from the previous post

Xhu · 12-08-2014 10:47PM

namenotavailabl wrote: »

The score is based on the time of the person's post. You reset the clock each day and whatever time the person first posts, that is the score e.g. if I post at 08:15, the score is 815.
Any subsequent post by the same person that day is based on an increment from the preceding post so if I post twice at 09:00 the first one is scored 45 and the second is scored 0

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It's far simpler than that.

namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 10:56PM

OK- literally the incremental difference in minutes between the previous post and the current post. Your posts are not counted, only the posts of players. This post would earn 16.

Xhu · 12-08-2014 11:28PM

namenotavailabl wrote: »

OK- literally the incremental difference in minutes between the previous post and the current post. Your posts are not counted, only the posts of players. This post would earn 16.

CORRECT!

Rule:

Number of minutes since last post (not including mine)

namenotavailablE · 12-08-2014 11:44PM

Thanks and credit to TommieBoy and EncryptedPigeon too for their "timely" assistance!

TommieBoy · 12-08-2014 11:50PM

many congrats for a brilliant deduction namenot!

Go Figure

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