Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

TheDoc wrote: »

I think what is worth remembering is that titles are not won by beating title rivals, but avoiding slipups. I always say this, I could be ENTIRELY wrong, but I always feel like the league is won by the team with the least slipups, or who can secure a win after a rival makes a slipup. Last season seemed to REALLY put that thought process into perspective. The main battles between City, Chelsea and Liverpool really didn't mean much imo, when you saw the slipups they had to teams lower.

Yeah, remember 08/09
United lost home and away to Liverpool, lost away to Arsenal and drew at home, beat Chelsea at home but lost away - that's 4 points against the top 4. Liverpool got 14 points from the top 4, Arsenal got 9, Chelsea got 4.
But who won the league?

TheDoc wrote: »

It's definitely a thought process I believe. I used to despair when we lost to a title rival. Now I don't get overly worked up about it, and find more emotionally tied when I'm channel hopping, or madly refreshing livescore, seeing a title rival losing or drawing.

I think City vs QPR on the final day, that earned them the title, is the perfect example of what I'm talking about albeit somewhat exagerated, where a title could have been lost with an unexpected result, but was won grinding a result avoiding a calamity.

I could be wrong, but I'd say our results against the top 4 havn't always been great season on season. I'd love to see our percentage win rate against the teams that finished in the top 4 that season. I'd be SHOCKED if it was higher then 50%(going of memory)

Top 4 that season was City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs. 4 wins, 2 losses (Both losses were to Man City).

If you extend it to include Chelsea and Liverpool. 6 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses.

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GNK Dinamo ‏@gnkdinamo 28m
Angelo Henriquez stigao u #Dinamo! Former Manchester United striker Henriquez our new no.9 #zagreb #croatia #football

Leroy42 wrote: »

Why are ipads etc banned from OT, whats the reasoning there?

because anybody who brings a big f*ck off tablet into a game and whips it out during said game, looks like a complete and utter f*cking tool.

dahat wrote: »

@gnkdinamo: Angelo Henriquez stigao u #Dinamo! Former Manchester United striker Henriquez our new no.9 #zagreb #croatia #football http://twitter.com/gnkdinamo/status/498854885761515522/photo/1

Another one gone, good for James Wilson really

Also explains why Vidal's agent was reportedly meeting United as he has the same agent as Henriquez. The meeting was nothing to do with Vidal although one would hope that the topic did come up at some point.

He cost $4m if memory serves me right. He looks a great prospect, wonder what the details of the deal are

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I remember we were talking before about how the club would leave it as late as possible to sign Vidal so that they could assess his knee after he has trained quite a bit, but Juve will want to spend the money on players too so surely if it's going to happen if would be this week or early next week at the latest

It'll happen after the World Cup.
It'll happen after he has his holiday.
It'll happen when he flies back to Italy.
It'll happen when he arrives back to training.
It'll happen before he flies off for pre-season with Juve.
It'll happen after he plays a few games for Juve in pre-season as Utd want to assess his knee in a match rather than give him a medical.

StarshipPooper wrote: »

It'll happen after the World Cup.
It'll happen after he has his holiday.
It'll happen when he flies back to Italy.
It'll happen when he arrives back to training.
It'll happen before he flies off for pre-season with Juve.
It'll happen after he plays a few games for Juve in pre-season as Utd want to assess his knee in a match rather than give him a medical

It wont happen!.

FYP :pac:

Remember when Woodward told fans to 'watch this space'. Was he just talking about our partners page?

i dunno lads, henriquez has shown very little to be classed as a good prospect for United.

he may do a job at championship level, but i think from what he has shown so far, he is well off United standard. if anything, he seems to have gone back a bit in the last 2 years and was a better player before we signed him. injury didnt help last year of course, but in terms of reserve strikers Keane and Wilson would be ahead of him by a distance.

thats 9 players gone off the wage bill now for next season compared to 11 months ago.

i wonder how much of our delayed transfer activity this summer is actually down to wanting players off the wage bill first before we bring anymore in?

weve got rid of 9 with possibly 3 more to go and only signed 2..perhaps if one more from Anderson, Fellaini and nani goes (another £12m worth of wages there), then we will act or now, are in a position to act.

our wage bill was projected to rise to around £200million going off what Woodward said 3 months ago in the Q3 financials, but at the moment its around £33.9m off that with impending sale of Ando to bring that to £37m. now, if Woodward is being true to his word, thats means a serious amount of top players are due to come in over the next 3 weeks, as that would be equivelent to 3 players on 150k plus a week being signed and we still have more budget left (allowing for wage increases and Moyes pay off).

when you see the wages that the likes of Ando are on, it would even make sense to sell him for free as opposed to him sitting in the reserves for the year.