Scumbag soccer players.

Right Turn Clyde · 08-08-2014 07:45PM

aidoh wrote: »

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month.

I guess you could say the same about actors, musicians, whatever. All of those 'professions' pay more than any of the noble examples you've given. That's just the way of the world. But it's supply and demand. People's interest in football is what pays the wages. The same is true of Tom Hanks every time he gets $20M for three months work. It's crazy, but we're human beings, we're obsessive. We make people extremely rich because we like what they do and how they do it. If we donated the same amount of money to Oxfam as we 'donate' to Apple then we'd be living in a different world. But we don't and we never will. Our iPods mean more to us than people on the street. It's a horrible thought, but look at your expenditure over the past five years and tell me it isn't true. We get fixated on things and we spend money on them, and we don't care how many special-needs teachers that money could translate into. You do it. I do it. Be honest with yourself. Anyway, a conversation for another time...

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-08-2014 08:08PM

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Gerard a man who once assaulted a man in a pub...Yeah his a saint because he gives away money(which i believe lowers his tax burden), there is also a few stories going around involving him and a Liverpool legends daughter, which certainly isn't the sort of carry on of a married man

There's loads of stories about him though, people for instance say one of his kids was fathered by notorious Liverpool criminal James 'Pancake' Taylor who his wife had an affair with. The same guy who allegedly threatened his life when he tried to move to Chelsea in 04.

We hear only the rumours that are probably circulated by people who aren't too fond of him. It's unfair to judge without hard evidence.

Shakespeare's Sister · 08-08-2014 08:12PM

darkdubh wrote: »

This piece of filth just sums up the kind of overpaid oafs in the premiership.

Nnnnnnah, he... doesn't. Wind-up couldn't be more obvious.
This behaviour (IF he's proven guilty of it) is not what sums up the behaviour of Premiership players whatsoever, as you know. And "half of them" are criminals?
(I'm not even slightly a fan of football btw).

finno · 08-08-2014 08:19PM

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Gerard a man who once assaulted a man in a pub...Yeah his a saint because he gives away money(which i believe lowers his tax burden), there is also a few stories going around involving him and a Liverpool legends daughter, which certainly isn't the sort of carry on of a married man

ahh here we go, Don't tell me you support UTD :rolleyes:

A_Sober_Paddy · 08-08-2014 08:40PM

finno wrote: »

ahh here we go, Don't tell me you support UTD :rolleyes:

Yeah i'm a UTD fan...A Leeds Utd fan

marklazarcovic · 08-08-2014 09:20PM

here we go

pmy.murphy · 09-08-2014 01:45AM

What about Stuart Pearce? His nickname is psycho for christ sake. That says it all:D:D:D:D

AnonoBoy · 09-08-2014 01:52AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

What a stupid thread this is but AH has been steadily turning into stupidsville for the last few stupid months.

Based on this one thread I'd say half of all After Hours posters reside in Stupidsville.

Strongbow10 · 09-08-2014 02:04AM

danrua01 wrote: »

Maybe stick him in a cell overnight with Joey Barton?

Listening to "Rent a quote" Barton trying to be Morrissey is too harsh a sentence for the lad, give him 10 years hard labour instead

Paz-CCFC · 09-08-2014 01:52PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

When football bans the use of faking out injury

It is banned.

as the majority of them do

They don't.

and they stop being a bunch of pansies...

I thought they were all thug criminals? Or, is it half of them are thugs and the other half are pansies?

then maybe I'd watch football.

And, despite not watching it, you still claim to know a lot about it.

It's so god damn off putting watching "professionals" acting it out... 'tactic' or not, I find it fecking pathetic.

Thank god cheating never happens in any other sport or walk of life and is entirely localised to football.

aidoh wrote: »

That's fair enough but they're talented at something fvcking stupid and pointless in my opinion.

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month. It's bread and circuses I know but it's so frustrating.

Thread for a different day though, I guess.

You should understand that the vast vast majority of footballers get paid nowhere near obscene amounts. Most are amateur and, if anything, pay their club for the privilege of training and playing. A small number get paid, but certainly not enough on its own to pay the bills. A tiny tiny amount can make a living purely off the sport. In Ireland, the average wage for a professional footballer is half of the overall average salary for an Irish worker. This, for a career that will last about 15 years, if even that. After, they'll either move onto being a coach/manager (at a huge expense, unless they're lucky enough to find a club that will pay for their qualifications) or else they'll move onto a completely new discipline and start all over again. At least in my job, if I stay in the same profession, I'll get a good 40-50 years work. Footballers don't have it as good as it's made out to be.

Right Turn Clyde · 09-08-2014 04:16PM

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

You should understand that the vast vast majority of footballers get paid nowhere near obscene amounts. Most are amateur and, if anything, pay their club for the privilege of training and playing. A small number get paid, but certainly not enough on its own to pay the bills. A tiny tiny amount can make a living purely off the sport. In Ireland, the average wage for a professional footballer is half of the overall average salary for an Irish worker. This, for a career that will last about 15 years, if even that. After, they'll either move onto being a coach/manager (at a huge expense, unless they're lucky enough to find a club that will pay for their qualifications) or else they'll move onto a completely new discipline and start all over again. At least in my job, if I stay in the same profession, I'll get a good 40-50 years work. Footballers don't have it as good as it's made out to be.

In fairness to 'aidoh' he was talking about the few thousand footballers who are playing at the very top level, and his argument is that they are overpaid. The average Premier League wage is around €30,000 a week. That's serious money. He's not talking about the vast majority of people that play football, and he's clearly not talking about amateurs.

blueser · 09-08-2014 04:20PM

darkdubh wrote: »

This piece of filth just sums up the kind of overpaid oafs in the premiership.Half of them should be in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/07/ravel-morrison-threatened-throw-acid-ex-girlfriends-face

Can you provide evidence of what crimes the other 299 players should be in jail for? By the way; being vastly overpaid is not an imprisonable offence.

Dowl88 · 09-08-2014 04:22PM

Rooney loves Grannies!

blueser · 09-08-2014 04:33PM

aidoh wrote: »

That's fair enough but they're talented at something fvcking stupid and pointless in my opinion.

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month. It's bread and circuses I know but it's so frustrating.

Thread for a different day though, I guess.

Why haven't you had a rant about Formula 1 drivers? Or NFL/NBA stars? Nothing to do with the fact that you're blatantly anti-football, I suppose?

anncoates · 09-08-2014 05:11PM

aidoh wrote: »

That's fair enough but they're talented at something fvcking stupid and pointless in my opinion.

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month. It's bread and circuses I know but it's so frustrating.

Thread for a different day though, I guess.

While I agree with your general point about the importance assigned to professions , generally speaking, remuneration is based not so much on skill but on the relative amount ( and scarcity) of that skill and less people have the talent to play football at that level than those with the skill to be excellent special needs teachers.

That doesn't mean the world needs more footballers than special needs teachers obviously or that the latter is less important.

Plus your point is probably more about intellectuals deriding sports and sports fans than an honest attempt to cheerlead for the care professions, let's be honest

Billy86 · 09-08-2014 05:48PM

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Innocent until proven guilty, right?

Love him or loath him, Alex Ferguson put a good bit of stock in professionalism and character (which is why lesser talented players like John O'Shea and Wes Brown kept prominent roles for so long there). Morrison was seen to be the most naturally fixed player to come through Man Utds youth system since Giggs and Scholes, maybe even more so than either of those two. But time and again he was caught up in dodgy stuff and was surrounded did by scum away from the team. After trying and trying, Ferguson gave up... I think he even had him live with Rio Ferdinand for a few months as a last resort if I recall. He wasn't even sold for much, pretty much just offloaded despite having what was seen as incredible potential as a player. That says a lot to me, quite sure he has been done for domestic abuse before, witness intimidation, threatening others, public homophobic comments, and destruction of property amongst other things. He is scum.

But there are plenty of good guys out there too, like Dirk Kurt, Michael Essien and Diego Farlam. Even some guys who people love to hate, like Cristiano Ronaldo and Mario Balotelli do a lot of work for charity.

Scumbag soccer players.

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