How much € should parents take off grown-up children towards their keep per week

wandatowell · 05-08-2014 06:44PM

Noticed this on boards before, posters saying young adults who live at home should be paying crazy rents to parents. Seems like a lot of people dont like others having a handy go of things. Giving €150/1 third of wages a week for rent, **** that.

I used to give my folks €300+ a week, €50 for rent and the rest went on savings for my own place. Rent was low on the condition that I had to save quite a lot. Often I saved more every week depending on bills etc.

oppenheimer1 · 05-08-2014 08:13PM

Ranchu wrote: »

If you're handing over €300 quid a month I'd consider it rent. Don't think it would legally be considered rent unless the parent is registered with the PRTB and is paying tax on it though.

How many parents do you think declare the money they get from their children for tax purposes? Is say you could count the number of people in the entire country on one hand.

darkpagandeath · 05-08-2014 08:17PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

How many parents do you think declare the money they get from their children for tax purposes? Is say you could count the number of people in the entire country on one hand.

Probably the same amount as the TD's who publically divulge if relatives spouse work for them in some way on government payroll. :pac:

snowflake15 · 05-08-2014 08:42PM

I'm currently on the dole

and living at home with parents and they ask that i give €80 per week out of the €188 i receive.
I do all my own washing, ironing etc. and help around the house(always have done anyway).
I pay for my all my own stuff like mobile broadband, mobile phone, toiletries(toothpaste/soap and own washing powder) and food items for myself per week along with anything else i need/want. I do have the offer of a cooked dinner every day if i want it.
There is no mortgage on the house, no sky tv or the likes and i never use the landline. I recently paid for a new mattress for myself as well (think someone else on here did that too)

IvaBigWun · 05-08-2014 08:54PM

Havent read the whole thread but has anyone said that they still give money after they move out?

Ranchu · 05-08-2014 09:01PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

How many parents do you think declare the money they get from their children for tax purposes? Is say you could count the number of people in the entire country on one hand.

None I'd imagine so posters saying they should be contributing 150 a week and the like are way off. If you wouldn't get it off a lodger you shouldn't be skinning your own child for that kind of money.

Some Kind of Wizard · 05-08-2014 09:06PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

A bit extra ? Your going to be in a house share if your thinking that way. Independent yes, Privacy only in your bedroom/bathroom Just like at home. If people think you can rent a place in this day and age for just under €100 pw there is something seriously wrong. That's even before bills.

Brother is in a lovely house with 3 other friends in the city centre of Dublin. His rent is €300 a month.

Ranchu · 05-08-2014 09:10PM

Some Kind of Wizard wrote: »

Brother is in a lovely house with 3 other friends in the city centre of Dublin. His rent is €300 a month.

Contrary to what people seem to think there are lots of house shares still available at a decent price in Dublin. I know very few people paying over €100 a week. I know about 30 paying less than that. All around Dublin city.

homemadecider · 05-08-2014 09:12PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Personally in my home place I would have little effect on the bills anymore than I do when not living there full time. The main additional use of electricity would be doing my washing and that's done at home anyway at weekends even when I'm renting. I'd have no effect on heating use. I also do quite a bit of work at home as we have a farm, this increases when I'm around more often so is another reason my parents would never dream of asking me for money if living at home.

Wait... what? You bring your dirty laundry to your parents house even though you live elsewhere??

darkpagandeath · 05-08-2014 09:14PM

Some Kind of Wizard wrote: »

Brother is in a lovely house with 3 other friends in the city centre of Dublin. His rent is €300 a month.

Ranchu wrote: »

Contrary to what people seem to think there are lots of house shares still available at a decent price in Dublin. I know very few people paying over €100 a week. I know about 30 paying less than that. All around Dublin city.

I covered the €100 pw with the house share already, I meant on their own.

Ranchu · 05-08-2014 09:18PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I covered the €100 pw with the house share already, I meant on their own.

Living in a house share and living with your parents isn't the same thing though. Unless your parents are extremely easy going or you're a really sheltered late teen/ early 20's kid you are not going to get the same level of freedom. If my da came home when I was 18 and I was doing a bong in the sitting room with a load of my mates I would have been strangled.

Recondite49 · 05-08-2014 09:19PM

Ranchu wrote: »

None I'd imagine so posters saying they should be contributing 150 a week and the like are way off. If you wouldn't get it off a lodger you shouldn't be skinning your own child for that kind of money.

The difference being you wouldn't give the lodger half of it back when they moved out - I've only said it five times now. . .

Ranchu · 05-08-2014 09:22PM

Recondite49 wrote: »

The difference being you wouldn't give the lodger half of it back when they moved out - I've only said it five times now. . .

Sorry I missed the giving half of it back bit.

shruikan2553 · 05-08-2014 10:27PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Havent read the whole thread but has anyone said that they still give money after they move out?

Not in this thread but I remember someone in personal issues (I think) that was pretty much expected to support his parents and siblings. Reminded me how lucky I was to have parents that weren't insane.

Macavity. · 05-08-2014 10:29PM

If my family were in need of the money I'd offer to pay something, think it's a little silly otherwise.

05-08-2014 10:29PM

homemadecider wrote: »

Wait... what? You bring your dirty laundry to your parents house even though you live elsewhere??

Yes most of the time I bring my clothes home with me to be washed (the way you say "your parents house" makes it sound like it's not the place I've lived most of my life :rolleyes:). There is no dryer in my house share and it takes far to long to dry things being one reason, we have a much better washing machine at and another reason being I go home a lot at weekends anyway which is when people tend to do their washing so it's handier to bring them home. I don't see the problem

Ranchu wrote: »

Living in a house share and living with your parents isn't the same thing though. Unless you're parents are extremely easy going or you're a really sheltered late teen/ early 20's kid you are not going to get the same level of freedom. If my da came home when I was 18 and I was doing a bong in the sitting room with a load of my mates I would have been strangled.

A house share is the worst of the three options imo (options being home, share or your own place). I never feel fully relaxed in a house share as you never know when you will have the sitting room to yourself to watch something or when the kitchen is free etc or when a housemate will have people over. At home it's much easier to argue over the tv channel or use the kitchen while others are etc. They also never have a feeling of home about them as they are usually a temporary stop of for most with people changing ever so often etc.

Electric Sheep · 05-08-2014 10:36PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Havent read the whole thread but has anyone said that they still give money after they move out?

I went up to Dublin to work when I was 18. I was expected to contribute to the family income while also paying rent and keeping myself in Dublin, and I know several of my friends were too. This was not because our parents were mean, it was because they and our younger sibligs really needed the money.

We envied the girls from Dublin who just had to hand up some money to their parents. I never knew anyone who was not expected to hand up money when living with their parents.

How times have changed.

Ranchu · 05-08-2014 10:51PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

A house share is the worst of the three options imo (options being home, share or your own place). I never feel fully relaxed in a house share as you never know when you will have the sitting room to yourself to watch something or when the kitchen is free etc or when a housemate will have people over. At home it's much easier to argue over the tv channel or use the kitchen while others are etc. They also never have a feeling of home about them as they are usually a temporary stop of for most with people changing ever so often etc.

Depends on your circumstances really. I lived in my first and only house share for 7 years. Always lived with friends and it felt more like home to me than living with my parents ever did. Living with my parents felt like I was living in their house. No independence, no privacy and no craic.

05-08-2014 11:09PM

I had a Summer job at 14, I earned 25 POUNDS a week and was expected to give my mam 8 or 9 pounds a week.
It was to teach me the value of money.
It worked, I paid my mams mortgage off a few years ago.
She now gets to slow down and not have to work to pay it.

I think that's fair enuf, she did enough for me in my life and sacrificed enough. I'm glad to give back and if she lived in Dublin I'd definitely give her over the going rent rates to live in her house.

I can't believe people expect to live in their parents house for free!!!

CrabRevolution · 06-08-2014 01:59PM

Are all your parents Government TDs or something? "I'm taking a hefty chunk of your money off you, but it's somehow for your own good. It also just so happens that it's all going into my pocket".

This is all new to me, I have never ever heard mention of people paying their parents to live in their own room. Most parents I know, especially my own, would refuse to take money off their children.

(Maybe you're all just so awful to live with that your parents reckon they need the money to make it feel worth it

:P)

Tilly · 06-08-2014 02:06PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Yes most of the time I bring my clothes home with me to be washed (the way you say "your parents house" makes it sound like it's not the place I've lived most of my life :rolleyes:). There is no dryer in my house share and it takes far to long to dry things being one reason, we have a much better washing machine at and another reason being I go home a lot at weekends anyway which is when people tend to do their washing so it's handier to bring them home. I don't see the problem

I'm shocked by this. Someone needs to start wearing his big boy pants!

jimgoose · 06-08-2014 02:10PM

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Are all your parents Government TDs or something? "I'm taking a hefty chunk of your money off you, but it's somehow for your own good. It also just so happens that it's all going into my pocket".

This is all new to me, I have never ever heard mention of people paying their parents to live in their own room. Most parents I know, especially my own, would refuse to take money off their children.

(Maybe you're all just so awful to live with that your parents reckon they need the money to make it feel worth it :P)

It is not their home, it is their parent's home. Living in your parent's home while over 18 without contributing towards the upkeep of your carcass and the space which it occupies was certainly unheard-of when and where I grew up, but is probably more the usual thing now that people tend to remain clueless, helpless and unproductive into their thirties. Oddly enough, as helplessness rises so does loudness and self-entitlement.

I am reminded of an episode of the Cosby Show many years ago. The daughter was complaining about getting slagged in school for being the "poor little rich girl". Mrs. Huxtable, rock of sense as ever, explains that she and her husband work hard for their money, whereas "Rich" means money works for you. The Great One then pipes up, and pronounces ex Cathedra: "Your mother and I are rich. You have nothing!" :pac::pac::pac:

jimgoose · 06-08-2014 02:11PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Yes most of the time I bring my clothes home with me to be washed (the way you say "your parents house" makes it sound like it's not the place I've lived most of my life :rolleyes:). There is no dryer in my house share and it takes far to long to dry things being one reason, we have a much better washing machine at and another reason being I go home a lot at weekends anyway which is when people tend to do their washing so it's handier to bring them home. I don't see the problem

I suggest you invest a couple of more sets of clothes and familiarise yourself with the ancient art of the washing-line. :pac::pac::pac:

Lombardo86 · 06-08-2014 02:13PM

While in college and part-time i was asked to give nothing and was lucky enough to be supported through college in terms of books etc.

When i graduated and got a job i paid 300 per month and continued to do so until i moved out.

What i got for that 300 is astounding compared to what i would have gotten for it elsewhere, and i for one really appreciated it back then and even more now.

I don't think they even wanted the money from me, rather they were setting me up to understand you have obligations and responsibility as an adult and you better get used to it

SONIC2008 · 06-08-2014 03:38PM

I'm 30 and still living at home.....cringe.

My mother absolutely refuses to accept any money from me, she considers it my home just as much as hers. There is no mortgage to pay but she won't even allow me contribute towards food and other utility bills. If I ever give her money, she takes my car and puts it back in by means of fuel! Or else she goes off and buys me something she thinks I want. Its difficult to even chip in for anything around the home.

She has always been like this when we were growing up and I don't really understand the value of money as I should. Its funny because she always made us work when we were on summer holidays from school and college, but always refused to take money from us. I just feel like if I had been made pay my own way back then I'd be better off in the long run.

I've just completed a 9 month bridge internship and unfortunately I have only managed to get a little bit of relief work from that company following this position. I just feel now that the way I'm living is really getting me down. I have no independence due to selfishly relying on my mothers overly kind nature. I'm like a spoiled adult! Its come to the stage that I just want to move out now and eventually learn to stand on my own two feet. I'm desperately looking for a steady job (if there is any such thing in this climate). My mother is totally against renting privately as she says there's no point paying someone else's mortgage for them. But I have to learn somehow!

jimgoose · 06-08-2014 03:43PM

SONIC2008 wrote: »

...My mother is totally against renting privately as she says there's no point paying someone else's mortgage for them. But I have to learn somehow!

She's dead right. There's no sane reason to do that, particularly if it's just you and her in a reasonably spacious, comfy house. Take her out for a bite to eat, give her a glass of wine, spoil her back a little, and explain to her how you feel, as a seasoned adult at this stage, about the issue of contributing to the household and paying for your own keep.

06-08-2014 03:55PM

SONIC2008 wrote: »

My mother is totally against renting privately as she says there's no point paying someone else's mortgage for them. But I have to learn somehow!

Ffs the universe doesn't revolve around mortgages. You pay for a service

jimgoose · 06-08-2014 03:57PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Ffs the universe doesn't revolve around mortgages. You pay for a service

And this as well. However, it doesn't revolve around going buck-lepping off to set up a whole 'nother household for one as soon as possible either, unless there's likely to be a homicide if they remain under the same roof, which doesn't appear to be the case here. What a colossal waste of money!

RedPandaDan · 06-08-2014 04:04PM

SONIC2008 wrote: »

My mother is totally against renting privately as she says there's no point paying someone else's mortgage for them.

You can apply that idea to basically anything (why take the bus and pay for some other guys bus when you can buy your own?), but if you are looking for a steady job at the moment there is no reason to move out if you can stay at home for less money.

Focus on the job, don't worry about moving out yet.

kylith · 06-08-2014 04:07PM

jimgoose wrote: »

And this as well. However, it doesn't revolve around going buck-lepping off to set up a whole 'nother household for one as soon as possible either, unless there's likely to be a homicide if they remain under the same roof, which doesn't appear to be the case here. What a colossal waste of money!

Yeah, but at the moment it appears that Sonic is unemployed and possibly doesn't have a lot of savings and in that case is unlikely to get a mortgage so as Sonic wants to move out and gain independence the options are to stay living with his/her mum until such time as s/he can afford a mortgage (which could be several years), or rent and 'pay someone else's mortgage'.

How much € should parents take off grown-up children towards their keep per week

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