Petrol Cars with Air Con - Do They Exist???

ABajaninCork · 05-08-2014 08:25PM #1

Hi

Thinking about changing out the car. Ideally would like another Fiesta, about 2-3 years old max, but there's very little choice unless I import one from the UK. And there's none that I can see with air con!! And in order to do so, it'll be about 2.3k in VRT if we bring in a 2012 model :mad:

Any ideas where I can look? Tried Carzone, but nothing doing.

TIA

Stheno · 05-08-2014 08:28PM

Donedeal?

I just looked for alfa romeos and found a few petrols with aircon

Stheno · 05-08-2014 08:30PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-25-titanium-5dr/6701076

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-titanium-1-2-petrol-high-sp/7396342

colm_mcm · 05-08-2014 08:34PM

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-4-tdci-zetec/7280547

And 18 more
http://cars.donedeal.ie/find/cars/for-sale/Ireland/Ford%20fiesta%20air%20conditioning?ranges

FIlter by age

bazz26 · 05-08-2014 08:36PM

Fiesta Titanium has air con as standard. Some of the Style models have it too.

Not sure where you are looking but this is just a quick sample I got in 5 mins:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Fiesta/2012.5-TITANIUM/61414054338906610/

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Fiesta/FIESTA-1.25L/44713952241942310/

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Fiesta/TITANIUM-1.25/50814012082208020/

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Ford/Fiesta/TITANIUM-1.25/61514061330667220/

ABajaninCork · 05-08-2014 08:40PM

Thanks for those! I knew the Titanium had air con, but didn't think the Style did. I'd prefer not to buy from Done Deal if I can possibly help it...

I'll have a look at those Bazz posted up.

Thanks again! Doubtless, I'll be like Arnie - back!!

colm_mcm · 05-08-2014 08:51PM

You're not buying the car from donedeal...
Donedeal is a representation of the market, I hope you don't think that using carzone somehow gives you a better quality car

ABajaninCork · 05-08-2014 09:32PM

No, of course not! I do my research as throughly as I can, get HPI checks and get the AA inspection done wherever I've bought the car.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Keep 'em coming.

colm_mcm · 05-08-2014 09:36PM

How much can you spend on this car?

ABajaninCork · 05-08-2014 09:56PM

Just getting a feel for prices at the moment, as I didn't know what they went for. I reckon about 10-12k tops...

colm_mcm · 05-08-2014 10:02PM

I'd have a serious look at these, had a spin in one 2 years ago and was very impressed

http://www.carzone.ie/search/KIA/Rio/1..2-ex-/37913888404393020/advert?channel=CARS

ANMHI · 09-08-2014 01:33AM

my Astra GTC has air con

quadrifoglio verde · 09-08-2014 01:41AM

What the feck does be going through people's mind. Oh I'll buy a new car, and give it the most basic spec as possible, removing as much of the creature comforts as possible to make that new plate just a little bit cheaper. It's madness to think that a new car in this day and age can come without aircon.
My 18 year old gtv has aircon :rolleyes:

ba_barabus · 09-08-2014 01:50AM

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

What the feck does be going through people's mind.

My 60 something year old mother had to argue with a salesman in Jan 2013 to get a quote for a Toyota with aircon. He told us we were mad and that nobody wanted it. As for wanting a petrol, sure everyone else wants diesel. It was the strangest experience of my life. A genuine cash buyer who could afford anything he had in the yard and a genuine hassle free sale (3 cars in a row before it and most likely a repeat sale) and he wanted to sell the base model. The killer came in his final line, your husband (name was used but I'll with hold that) would buy it if he was still alive :eek:

Now the killer line at the end was shocking but he wasn't the only salesperson who advised the basic model in the yard or to order even though she wanted something superior.

colm_mcm · 09-08-2014 08:53AM

ba_barabus wrote: »

My 60 something year old mother had to argue with a salesman in Jan 2013 to get a quote for a Toyota with aircon. He told us we were mad and that nobody wanted it. As for wanting a petrol, sure everyone else wants diesel. It was the strangest experience of my life. A genuine cash buyer who could afford anything he had in the yard and a genuine hassle free sale (3 cars in a row before it and most likely a repeat sale) and he wanted to sell the base model. The killer came in his final line, your husband (name was used but I'll with hold that) would buy it if he was still alive :eek:

Now the killer line at the end was shocking but he wasn't the only salesperson who advised the basic model in the yard or to order even though she wanted something superior.

If its the one I'm thinking of down your neck of the woods, this same dealer has a "motorists prayer" printed on the back of the tax disc holder too

Casati · 09-08-2014 11:36AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

If its the one I'm thinking of down your neck of the woods, this same dealer has a "motorists prayer" printed on the back of the tax disc holder too

Looking at the number of basic Toyota on the road my guess is that most dealers give similar advise to most customers. Looking at the prices Toyota traditionally charge to buy a higher spec model I can see the logic - i.e. if they talk the buyer into spending 4k extra to buy say a SOL Corolla, but only offer a grand more for it come trade in, they risk losing that customer to another brand next time round

colm_mcm · 09-08-2014 11:39AM

Casati wrote: »

Looking at the number of basic Toyota on the road my guess is that most dealers give similar advise to most customers. Looking at the prices Toyota traditionally charge to buy a higher spec model I can see the logic - i.e. if they talk the buyer into spending 4k extra to buy say a SOL Corolla, but only offer a grand more for it come trade in, they risk losing that customer to another brand next time round

Indeed, I used to sell them, and at that time you took whatever cars you were given. They insisted on bringing in crap colours and base specs and petrols - apparently based on what models has traditionally sold before (which is laughable as dealers just sold what they could get)

Getting something like a 1.3 or a 3dr or aircon in a Yaris would have been factory order for example.

Toyotafanboi · 09-08-2014 11:46AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Indeed, I used to sell them, and at that time you took whatever cars you were given. They insisted on bringing in crap colours and base specs and petrols - apparently based on what models has traditionally sold before (which is laughable as dealers just sold what they could get)

Getting something like a 1.3 or a 3dr or aircon in a Yaris would have been factory order for example.

why would toyota ireland want to do business this way? to control the demand by limiting availability in a "they'l like what we tell them to like" kind of way?

colm_mcm · 09-08-2014 11:49AM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

why would toyota ireland want to do business this way? to control the demand by limiting availability in a "they'l like what we tell them to like" kind of way?

No idea. To be fair to them they have done very well in Ireland compared to say the UK. Not as well these days obviously but still.

ba_barabus · 09-08-2014 12:06PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

If its the one I'm thinking of down your neck of the woods, this same dealer has a "motorists prayer" printed on the back of the tax disc holder too

No but I know where you are talking about. She was previously ignored there and passed over twice by the salesman so he could deal with a male customer. She has never gone back.

You're right about anything better being a factory order. It seems to be they are 'encouraged' to sell what they receive from the distributor. It helps keep down costs and lead times from what I understand.

colm_mcm · 09-08-2014 12:10PM

I don't think that they carry as much stock nowadays but being able to get a car in a matter of days really helped sell the cars.

ba_barabus · 09-08-2014 12:13PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don't think that they carry as much stock nowadays but being able to get a car in a matter of days really helped sell the cars.

I was asking a guy who works in Burnston about the cars they send to Ireland. He wouldn't believe me that they supply them without aircon and with steel wheels. An hour later he contacted me after checking the build sheets wondering why we wanted 3rd world cars

ABajaninCork · 09-08-2014 01:44PM

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

What the feck does be going through people's mind. Oh I'll buy a new car, and give it the most basic spec as possible, removing as much of the creature comforts as possible to make that new plate just a little bit cheaper. It's madness to think that a new car in this day and age can come without aircon.
My 18 year old gtv has aircon :rolleyes:

And so did my 2001 Peugeot 206 GLX that I imported into here!!! :mad:

Greenmachine · 09-08-2014 01:48PM

I don't think I have ever been in a car made in the last 20 years without air con.

ABajaninCork · 09-08-2014 01:56PM

If you were offered a car for sale without aircon in London where I'm from, people would think you're on crack!!!

stephenmarr · 09-08-2014 02:32PM

My 05 530i has
Air con & a sunroof
Must be rare :-)

djimi · 09-08-2014 02:41PM

Greenmachine wrote: »

I don't think I have ever been in a car made in the last 20 years without air con.

In Ireland? I could probably count on one hand the number of cars that I have been in that have A/C...

bazz26 · 09-08-2014 02:51PM

Lads, it's all very good and well saying a 10 or 20 year old sports car or mid size exec saloon had air conditioning. Don't forget that the original owner paid a lot more for those cars back in the day than the price of an entry level ecobox these days. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Remember that the likes of the Audi A3 only got air conditioning as standard back in 2009, a car that cost considerably more than the Golf it was based on, the A4 only got rear electric windows as standard here in 2008. FFS Ford still have remote central locking as an optional extra on the Fiesta. The likes of the Octavia doesn't have air con as standard either so it's not just a Toyota thing.

Greenmachine · 09-08-2014 09:21PM

djimi wrote: »

In Ireland? I could probably count on one hand the number of cars that I have been in that have A/C...

What? Can't believe what I a hearing. Maybe every car I have ever owned or driven was an import.

What next most people have no electric windows.

colm_mcm · 09-08-2014 11:48PM

stephenmarr wrote: »

My 05 530i has
Air con & a sunroof
Must be rare :-)

Not sure about that, 2 of my old FTOs, Shogun, S type and my current Civic and 323 have sunroof and aircon.

For Forks Sake · 10-08-2014 09:00AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Not sure about that, 2 of my old FTOs, Shogun, S type and my current Civic and 323 have sunroof and aircon.

same as that my S60 has sunroof,aircon and leather. The holy trinity.

Petrol Cars with Air Con - Do They Exist???

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