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Popes New Commandments for today's life

  • 03-08-2014 10:21AM
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    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/the-new-ten-commandments-pope-francis-top-ten-tips-for-a-better-life-30474579.html

    Popes new 10 Commandments
    Turn off the TV, calm down and stop trying to convert people to your religion.
    1 Don't proselytise; respect others' beliefs. “We can inspire others through witness so that one grows together in communicating. But the worst thing of all is religious proselytism, which paralyses: 'I am talking with you in order to persuade you,' No. Each person dialogues, starting with his and her own identity. The church grows by attraction, not proselytising,” the Pope said
    2 A healthy sense of leisure. The Pope said “consumerism has brought us anxiety”, and told parents to set aside time to play with their children and turn of the TV when they sit down to eat
    3 Work for peace. “We are living in a time of many wars,” he said, and “the call for peace must be shouted. Peace sometimes gives the impression of being quiet, but it is never quiet, peace is always proactive” and dynamic
    4 Find innovative ways to create dignified jobs for young people. “We need to be creative with young people. If they have no opportunities they will get into drugs” and be more vulnerable to suicide, he said
    5 “Live and let live.” Everyone should be guided by this principle, he said, which has a similar expression in Rome with the saying, “Move forward and let others do the same.”
    6 Respect and take care of nature. Environmental degradation “is one of the biggest challenges we have,” he said. “I think a question that we're not asking ourselves is: 'Isn't humanity committing suicide with this indiscriminate and tyrannical use of nature?'
    7 “Proceed calmly” in life. The pope, who used to teach high school literature, used an image from an Argentine novel by Ricardo Guiraldes, in which the protagonist — gaucho Don Segundo Sombra — looks back on how he lived his life
    8 Stop being negative. “Needing to talk badly about others indicates low self-esteem. That means, 'I feel so low that instead of picking myself up I have to cut others down,'” the Pope said. “Letting go of negative things quickly is healthy.”
    9 Sundays should be holidays. Workers should have Sundays off because “Sunday is for family,” he said
    10 “Be giving of yourself to others.” People need to be open and generous toward others, he said, because “if you withdraw into yourself, you run the risk of becoming egocentric. And stagnant water becomes putrid.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Popes new 10 Commandments
    Turn off the TV, calm down and stop trying to convert people to your religion.
    1 Don't proselytise; respect others' beliefs.

    I stopped reading that this disturbingly ironic part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/the-new-ten-commandments-pope-francis-top-ten-tips-for-a-better-life-30474579.html

    Popes new 10 Commandments
    Turn off the TV, calm down and stop trying to convert people to your religion.
    1 Don't proselytise; respect others' beliefs. “We can inspire others through witness so that one grows together in communicating. But the worst thing of all is religious proselytism, which paralyses: 'I am talking with you in order to persuade you,' No. Each person dialogues, starting with his and her own identity. The church grows by attraction, not proselytising,” the Pope said
    2 A healthy sense of leisure. The Pope said “consumerism has brought us anxiety”, and told parents to set aside time to play with their children and turn of the TV when they sit down to eat
    3 Work for peace. “We are living in a time of many wars,” he said, and “the call for peace must be shouted. Peace sometimes gives the impression of being quiet, but it is never quiet, peace is always proactive” and dynamic
    4 Find innovative ways to create dignified jobs for young people. “We need to be creative with young people. If they have no opportunities they will get into drugs” and be more vulnerable to suicide, he said
    5 “Live and let live.” Everyone should be guided by this principle, he said, which has a similar expression in Rome with the saying, “Move forward and let others do the same.”
    6 Respect and take care of nature. Environmental degradation “is one of the biggest challenges we have,” he said. “I think a question that we're not asking ourselves is: 'Isn't humanity committing suicide with this indiscriminate and tyrannical use of nature?'
    7 “Proceed calmly” in life. The pope, who used to teach high school literature, used an image from an Argentine novel by Ricardo Guiraldes, in which the protagonist — gaucho Don Segundo Sombra — looks back on how he lived his life
    8 Stop being negative. “Needing to talk badly about others indicates low self-esteem. That means, 'I feel so low that instead of picking myself up I have to cut others down,'” the Pope said. “Letting go of negative things quickly is healthy.”
    9 Sundays should be holidays. Workers should have Sundays off because “Sunday is for family,” he said
    10 “Be giving of yourself to others.” People need to be open and generous toward others, he said, because “if you withdraw into yourself, you run the risk of becoming egocentric. And stagnant water becomes putrid.”

    The standard of Op reaches a new low, copy and paste then feck off without adding your own opinion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Fuck the Pope.

    Hitch has it sussed.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭timetogo


    I stopped reading that this disturbingly ironic part.


    I never understand this. If your beliefs are correct then why respect other beliefs that are counter to yours. Unless, your beliefs might not be correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Religion is for the weak or uneducated


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    timetogo wrote: »
    I never understand this. If your beliefs are correct then why respect other beliefs that are counter to yours. Unless, you beliefs might not be correct.

    Live and let live and all that.


  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The standard of Op reaches a new low, copy and paste then feck off without adding your own opinion.

    Ok here are my ONLY commandments.
    1 Live and let live
    2 Proceed Calmly
    3 Stop being negative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I stopped reading that this disturbingly ironic part.

    Except he's saying that catholics shouldn't preach to non catholics and what he's doing is preaching to catholics. He's sticking to his own rules.


    Personally I like Jim Jeffries version of the bible "try not to be a cunt"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    timetogo wrote: »
    I never understand this. If your beliefs are correct then why respect other beliefs that are counter to yours. Unless, you beliefs might not be correct.

    Precisely because you don't know.

    That's why it's called a 'belief' as opposed to a 'fact'.
    Except he's saying that catholics shouldn't preach to non catholics and what he's doing is preaching to catholics. He's sticking to his own rules.

    So the Catholic Church has stopped all missionary activity?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 479 ✭✭In Lonesome Dove


    I was raised as a catholic but now days I don't have much faith. I like this new pope though and I like this list he came out with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    timetogo wrote: »
    I never understand this. If your beliefs are correct then why respect other beliefs that are counter to yours. Unless, you beliefs might not be correct.

    You would have to respect in a condescending way as Catholicism is the one true religion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭NotASheeple


    Lapin wrote: »
    Fuck the Pope.

    I love the intolerant irony here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭timetogo


    Lapin wrote: »
    Live and let live and all that.

    Not really. I read Penn Gillettes book.

    He has a good chapter on how if you really believe that somebody is going to go to hell, isn't it your duty to convert them to save them.

    His chapter had an analogy.

    Guy standing on train tracks.
    Train approaching.
    Doesn't believe the train will hit him.
    You know it will.
    Most people would push the guy off the train tracks if they could rather than just respect his beliefs.

    Obviously the chapter fleshes it out a bit but I'm typing this on my phone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    Basically he's saying that the church is now cool and modern.

    The church has NOT changed it's stance on the following matters one bit:

    -anti women
    -anti gay
    -anti divorce
    - anti contraception (including as a preventative measure in fighting the spread of AIDS)
    - anti abortion in ALL circumstances


    Come back Francis when you have something concrete to say you chancer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭timetogo


    Precisely because you don't know.

    That's why it's called a 'belief' as opposed to a 'fact'.

    So the Pope and clergy have doubt. I did not know that.

    I thought they profess to know.


  • Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I started the topic because I thought it fresh and positive. I'm not into any particular religion and am a fan of my late fathers 11th Commandment "Poor man, mind thyself".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    The new pope says a lot of good things, if he would act on them now that would be great.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Lapin wrote: »
    Fuck the Pope.

    Hitch has it sussed.


    Hitchens wasn't right about everything, god I hate the cult that has growing up around that man


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Religion is for the weak or uneducated


    That has never been said before. Well done on your significant original contribution.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    Hitchens wasn't right about everything, god I hate the cult that has growing up around that man

    Nobody is right about everything.

    And speaking of cults that have grown up - you might like to include the one that Francis leads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    I dunno, reckon it's a pretty decent list of stuff to live by. Yeah there's lots of things the CC still has to answer to and deal with (women, gay rights and contraception especially) but I think if people lived by that list in general then it'd be a good start.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    This Pope is cool, he does seem to be genuinely trying to reform things, and to be fair, regardless of your faith, those 10 commandments are pretty sound.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 479 ✭✭In Lonesome Dove


    Meangadh wrote: »
    I dunno, reckon it's a pretty decent list of stuff to live by. Yeah there's lots of things the CC still has to answer to and deal with (women, gay rights and contraception especially) but I think if people lived by that list in general then it'd be a good start.

    This 100%. Regardless of religion this is a good list to take on board and live by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Icaras


    5 “Live and let live.” Everyone should be guided by this principle, he said,

    Yea now hes young and his heart is an open book but I'll bet eventually....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Whatever you may think of Catholicism, this pope or religion in general, plenty of common sense and wisdom in that list.

    Nice one, Franky!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    **** the Pope.

    I love the intolerant irony here.

    Nah, you picked him wrong/ He's just a fan of Michael Longley's poetry :pac:



    http://www.poetrybyheart.org.uk/poems/wounds/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Hitchens wasn't right about everything, god I hate the cult that has growing up around that man

    Who said he was?


    As for the cult that has grown up around him, there is a bit of that, but you'll always get that when someone popular dies.

    As for myself though, I've been reading his articles for over 20 years.

    I agreed with almost everything he said about religion but also disagreed with him on other topics, most notably his defending of the actions of the George W. Bush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    9 Sundays should be holidays. Workers should have Sundays off because “Sunday is for family,”

    Will those who are going to be involved in accidents in the home, garden and on our roads, those who get sick, have heart attacks, strokes and so on, hold off until Monday, because Doctors, nurses, first responders, Gardaí and so on have families too.

    Oh, and if you want to have dinner and a pint in the pub or go to the zoo, then feck off. It's Sunday!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    He probably came up with these after receiving a tablet from Moses.

    Moses being the african lad who delivers his MDMA.


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