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Beef General Thread

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  • #272
    ellewood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    From iga grass walk..

    Grass

    Step 1 grow it in 21 days graze it in 3

    Step 2 use it by using paddocks and drinkers

    Simple:D


  • #273
    I said
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Mine don't be here long enough to familiarise themselves with a paddock system lol


  • #274
    Farrell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    Have to agree on grass management.
    With forward grazing, even to give a bit of nuts the calves stayed with the cows till August.
    Have problem with water this year (waiting on connection to be fixed) so water in 1 block & then open & close.
    Can see difference in growth


  • #275
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    rangler1 wrote: »
    You don't have to go to West Clare to see that, that sort of farming is everywhere, and then I have to tolerate a third of my SFP being transferred to that sort of farming in the next five years.
    A lot of hay was made this year with no sheds available to put it in and no customers.....some standard of management

    They could just as easily be farmers that have decent SFP that are retired with minimal stocking levels. This allows them to collect there SFP, DA and they make hay to sell. They are caught this year with excess hay.


  • #276
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    They could just as easily be farmers that have decent SFP that are retired with minimal stocking levels. This allows them to collect there SFP, DA and they make hay to sell. They are caught this year with excess hay.

    Leave it rot in the field, bad summer and spring "fodder crisis".. It's waste pure and simple


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  • #277
    I said
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Leave it rot in the field, bad summer and spring "fodder crisis".. It's waste pure and simple

    How many contractors have been paid in bales this year?


  • #278
    moy83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Leave it rot in the field, bad summer and spring "fodder crisis".. It's waste pure and simple

    No excuse for leaving it rot , even if it was stacked in a dry corner and an old silage cover thrown over it most of it would keep alright until its needed


  • #279
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Leave it rot in the field, bad summer and spring "fodder crisis".. It's waste pure and simple

    I was not commenting on what was being done rather on the perception as to who was doing it.


  • #280
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,638 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Leave it rot in the field, bad summer and spring "fodder crisis".. It's waste pure and simple

    Agreed


  • #281
    Genghis Cant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Leave it rot in the field, bad summer and spring "fodder crisis".. It's waste pure and simple

    Obviously leaving hay to rot in a field is crazy. But I'd contend that it's the exception rather than the rule. I cover a lot of the countryside in work and its rare I'd see it. On the subject, round bales of hay are perfectly well left out for the winter. Stacked in lines with a gap between to allow the rain run off them, there'll be minimal loss on them.


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  • #282
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,109 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    moy83 wrote: »
    No excuse for leaving it rot , even if it was stacked in a dry corner and an old silage cover thrown over it most of it would keep alright until its needed
    all the effort that probably went into making it with out rain and then its left sitting there....makes me laugh


  • #283
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,109 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Genghis Cant wrote: »
    On the subject, round bales of hay are perfectly well left out for the winter. Stacked in lines with a gap between to allow the rain run off them, there'll be minimal loss on them.
    they would be better off in a shed... its when they are left out in a field where the baler left them for months on end with lovely grass growing around them, whats the point?


  • #284
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,638 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    whelan2 wrote: »
    they would be better off in a shed... its when they are left out in a field where the baler left them for months on end with lovely grass growing around them, whats the point?

    There's a good few fields around here like that and it would sicken ya. Knew well they would be left out when I seen so much being baled at the time of the fine weather


  • #285
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,109 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    a lad down the road has silage bales at the edge of the field from 2012- would not sell them in the bad spring of 2013:mad:- then on the other side of them is the hay bales from 2013 , all outside, wonder what he will do this year .


  • #286
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Yep good idea and the dairy farming bias has now hijacked the beef thread!!


  • #287
    Kovu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Thread here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057262007

    Will add poll shortly. Suggestions welcome.


  • #288
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    'They do be terrible them daiy farmers that throw 40-50 calves in a field of aftergrass and the red stems of the ripened dock heads littering the place. ....... terrible terrible terrible.' :D

    Right back at ye dairy folks!!! :D:D


  • #289
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,638 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Muckit wrote: »
    'They do be terrible them daiy farmers that throw 40-50 calves in a field of aftergrass and the red stems of the ripened dock heads littering the place. ....... terrible terrible terrible.' :D

    Right back at ye dairy folks!!! :D:D

    Here here :D


  • #290
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Yep good idea and the dairy farming bias has now hijacked the beef thread!!

    Funny thing is it was a drystock guy who mentioned dairy. I mearly posted re bales out side. Are we not allowed post here?

    Unfortunately there is a undercurrent of the "Big bad dairy farmer" after taking over on boards, championed by a minority.

    Can posts just be read for what they are?


  • #291
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,638 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Funny thing is it was a drystock guy who mentioned dairy. I mearly posted re bales out side. Are we not allowed post here?

    Unfortunately there is a undercurrent of the "Big bad dairy farmer" after taking over on boards, championed by a minority.

    Can posts just be read for what they are?

    Relax frazzled relax :D:D:D


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  • #292
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Funny thing is it was a drystock guy who mentioned dairy. I mearly posted re bales out side. Are we not allowed post here?

    Unfortunately there is a undercurrent of the "Big bad dairy farmer" after taking over on boards, championed by a minority.

    Can posts just be read for what they are?

    Arghhhhhhhh,you got a good days rain cheer up!!


  • #293
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Arghhhhhhhh,you got a good days rain cheer up!!

    It was gorgeous


  • #294
    I said
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Having read all posts regarding paddock grazing must get me arse in gear and start dividing up bigger fields using temp electric where would I source concrete drinkers in the midlands area?too late to change this year but to have it ready for next year.


  • #295
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,638 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I said wrote: »
    Having read all posts regarding paddock grazing must get me arse in gear and start dividing up bigger fields using temp electric where would I source concrete drinkers in the midlands area?too late to change this year but to have it ready for next year.

    Chance ringing Joe in Kinnegad agri stores


  • #296
    TUBBY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    I said wrote: »
    Having read all posts regarding paddock grazing must get me arse in gear and start dividing up bigger fields using temp electric where would I source concrete drinkers in the midlands area?too late to change this year but to have it ready for next year.

    precast crowd beside tullamor mart do them.


  • #297
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    I said wrote: »
    Having read all posts regarding paddock grazing must get me arse in gear and start dividing up bigger fields using temp electric where would I source concrete drinkers in the midlands area?too late to change this year but to have it ready for next year.

    Remember if you buy just before end of tax year you can depreciate them 12.5% and claim back vat as well. You can claim back vat any time but if like me it happens once a year. It might not seem much but every little helps


  • #298
    Toplink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Toplink


    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    Remember if you buy just before end of tax year you can depreciate them 12.5% and claim back vat as well. You can claim back vat any time but if like me it happens once a year. It might not seem much but every little helps

    Without being VAT registered?


  • #299
    Toplink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Toplink


    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    Remember if you buy just before end of tax year you can depreciate them 12.5% and claim back vat as well. You can claim back vat any time but if like me it happens once a year. It might not seem much but every little helps

    Without being VAT registered?


  • #300
    Toplink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Toplink


    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    Remember if you buy just before end of tax year you can depreciate them 12.5% and claim back vat as well. You can claim back vat any time but if like me it happens once a year. It might not seem much but every little helps

    Without being VAT registered?


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  • #301
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Toplink wrote: »
    Without being VAT registered?

    Yes with out being vat registered. You can claim vat back on any permanent fixture water troughs, hydrodare and fittings count.


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