Managing Fatigue

Felexicon · 30-07-2014 05:10PM #1

What do you do to stop the onset of fatigue during a round?

I always seem to start feeling it around the 15th or 16th hole and my shots start going way left.

What food/drinks to you consume before/during your rounds to keep the energy up?

John Divney · 30-07-2014 05:24PM

Yeah, I carry and this weather has seen me score massive on the front 9 and then fatigue mentally blow scores late on.

Drink more water before you leave the house helps big time, for me anyway.

BraveDonut · 30-07-2014 05:31PM

Continually hydrate during your round.
Make sure you eat too.
Fruit and chocolate for me.

Helps keep up concentration levels

First Up · 30-07-2014 09:00PM

Felexicon wrote: »

What do you do to stop the onset of fatigue during a round?

I always seem to start feeling it around the 15th or 16th hole and my shots start going way left.

What food/drinks to you consume before/during your rounds to keep the energy up?

The question must also be asked - how fit are you? The average golf round involves walking about four miles and involves spending about four hours on your feet - most of it just standing. Of course a hilly course is more demanding and its harder to carry your clubs than to use a battery powered trolly, but it still is not exactly like doing a marathon.

Nuts, fruit, chocolate, hydration etc all help but if someone is unfit or overweight, nutrition alone is not going to stop you getting tired.

Halfprice · 31-07-2014 06:39AM

when you start to feel hungry its to late, probably need to snack every few holes to keep the hunger away and plenty of water also to keep hydrated.

ShivasIrons · 31-07-2014 09:35AM

BraveDonut wrote: »

Continually hydrate during your round.
Make sure you eat too.
Fruit and chocolate for me.

Helps keep up concentration levels

Fruit and chocolate have high sugar levels, blood sugar will spike and crash leading to more concentration problems. Something with protein would help maintain a constant blood sugar level, nuts with raisins or beef jerky are good options or even a chicken sandwich.

Be careful with drinking too much water as it washes electrolytes out of the system causing the body to dehydrate more. Avoid sports drinks, i.e. Lucosade sport etc which claim to have electrolytes, they don't have that many and are laced with sugar.

Best thing is to add a little pinch of unrefined sea salt to your water to replenish the electrolytes.

Increased cardio vascular capacity also helps. Sprinting is the best for golf.

GreeBo · 31-07-2014 09:44AM

Bananas!

Ok, and granola bars.

But don't try to stuff the last bit of one into your mouth before you hit...recipe for an woeful shot.

cairny · 31-07-2014 09:51AM

ShivasIrons wrote: »

Increased cardio vascular capacity also helps. Sprinting is the best for golf.

Sprinting better than distance? That's interesting, what's the thinking behind that?

digginz · 31-07-2014 09:56AM

If you are carrying your bag. Try a round with a trolley.

I used to get tired and sore back after 12-14holes, now I can play a full 18 no problem

FixdePitchmark · 31-07-2014 09:57AM

GreeBo wrote: »

Bananas!

Ok, and granola bars.

But don't try to stuff the last bit of one into your mouth before you hit...recipe for an woeful shot.

Lol,

happened to me at weekend - had a beef sandwich handed to me (not a real golf lad, but nice sambo made by his lovely wife) on a par 3 - had a quarter to go, the sambo that is - didn't know what to do with it, everything I looked at to put it down, looked fairly mank - so just put the quarter of it in my mouth - can eat quick , was from a big family - if you didn't eat quick , some other ****er would eat your dinner.

So standing over this par 3 (5th cahir park) - chewing the sambo - had to stop chewing to swing (lol) - was thinking how do I breath when I swing , do I need a mouth in my shot

.

Bang - PW - 9 feet.

I think the sambo did it - but a bit of an awkward pre shot routine to bring into my game - not to mention , your man's wife would be a bit pissed off , If I asked for 10 sambos a round.

Dealerz · 31-07-2014 09:57AM

Don't have children or if you messed that one up, apparently ( I have no science to back this up) bananas take an hour to release the good stuff, and plenty of water.

Dealerz · 31-07-2014 09:58AM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Lol,

happened to me at weekend - had a beef sandwich handed to me (not a real golf lad, but nice sambo made by his lovely wife) on a par 3 - had a quarter to go, that sambo that is - didn't know what to do with it, everything I looked at to put it down, looked fairly mank - so just put the quarter of it in my mouth - can eat quick , was from a big family - if you didn't eat quick , some other ****er would eat your dinner.

So standing over this par 3 (5th cahir park) - chewing the sambo - had to stop chewing to swing (lol) - was thinking how do I breath when I swing , do I need a mouth in my shot .

Bang - PW - 9 feet.

I think the sambo did it - but a bit of an awkward pre shot routine to bring into my game - not to mention , your man's wife would be a bit pissed off , If I asked for 10 sambos a round.

I know it's early but that's post of the day for me! Well done fix.

FixdePitchmark · 31-07-2014 10:00AM

"Give us a sandwich" -
"A Sandwedge ?"
"No a bleeding Sambo." "This is a serious shot"

Ciaranra · 31-07-2014 10:43AM

Nuts fruit and water

mike12 · 31-07-2014 10:45AM

Eat on the 9th it's too late by the time you feel hungry on the 16th. Drink plenty. Chicked sambo is perfect.

FixdePitchmark · 31-07-2014 10:52AM

Felexicon wrote: »

What do you do to stop the onset of fatigue during a round?

I always seem to start feeling it around the 15th or 16th hole and my shots start going way left.

What food/drinks to you consume before/during your rounds to keep the energy up?

I drink plenty plenty of fluids - as in every 3 or 4 holes.

I don't eat anything - but always have had something before I start. But always have a bit of chocolate if feel low.

A push trolley - without falling into the trap of too much in it - as I do.
I guess the amount you play makes you golf fit too.

And - back to basics, if you are unfit - that is the first point to look at.

The amount of golf I play - can't see myself carrying a bag - not to mention - I watch my back a bit. I honestly think carrying a bag is for young men.

Have an event coming up in September 36 holes over 24 hours , but we are drinking about 40 pints as well - now that is fatigue - I've won 2 years in a row

Another extreme sport is the Atlantic Coast Challenge.

ShivasIrons · 31-07-2014 12:13PM

cairny wrote: »

Sprinting better than distance? That's interesting, what's the thinking behind that?

The golf swing is closer to a sprint then a marathon. Also sprinting is more efficient at improving cardio vascular fitness, try 20 seconds on and off sprinting for 4 minutes over jogging for 30 minutes.

First Up · 31-07-2014 12:47PM

ShivasIrons wrote: »

The golf swing is closer to a sprint then a marathon. Also sprinting is more efficient at improving cardio vascular fitness, try 20 seconds on and off sprinting for 4 minutes over jogging for 30 minutes.

I think you are confusing two things here:

Cardio-vascular endurance is about maintaining an elevated heart rate for a sustained period. That is not a requirement for golf, nor is it achieved through sprinting. If you want to improve c-v endurance, you work on aerobic capacity by training in bursts at 80-85% of max. This is best achieved through interval training - say 400 meter repeats or fartlek runs of 30+ minutes.

There is a case for sprinting to build speed and explosive strength and that can help the golf swing but it isn't the solution for someone getting tired 3/4 through a round.

ForeRight · 31-07-2014 01:31PM

Played recently with a man who was very friendly and offered me a home made chicken sandwich. Delicious I thought thank you very much.

Took one bite and nearly puked. I looked inside the sandwich and there was indeed chicken in there although there was also lumps of skin, grizzle, black bits of meat to name just a few. What sort of animal just breaks up a cooked chicken and throws the lot into a sambo?

The thoughts of it now is making me gag....

Anyway moral of the story is don't take sweets off old men I suppose.

Now I just have a litre of water with small sips regular and those nature valley bars. They are in dunnes for €2 and I think you get 8 in that. A pro shop charges €1 for one.

Dealerz · 31-07-2014 01:38PM

What's the nut thing about? Don't get it- don't nuts just make you poo, which is a seriously low priority for me on a golf course.

ShivasIrons · 31-07-2014 01:39PM

First Up wrote: »

I think you are confusing two things here:

Cardio-vascular endurance is about maintaining an elevated heart rate for a sustained period. That is not a requirement for golf, nor is it achieved through sprinting. If you want to improve c-v endurance, you work on aerobic capacity by training in bursts at 80-85% of max. This is best achieved through interval training - say 400 meter repeats or fartlek runs of 30+ minutes.

There is a case for sprinting to build speed and explosive strength and that can help the golf swing but it isn't the solution for someone getting tired 3/4 through a round.

http://youtu.be/n086-FkuF1E

31-07-2014 01:48PM

Dealerz wrote: »

What's the nut thing about? Don't get it- don't nuts just make you poo, which is a seriously low priority for me on a golf course.

There's a lot of calories in them, good for keeping you going.

Dealerz · 31-07-2014 01:50PM

Dakota Unsightly Martian wrote: »

There's a lot of calories in them, good for keeping you going.

Boom boom!

First Up · 31-07-2014 01:59PM

ShivasIrons wrote: »

http://youtu.be/n086-FkuF1E

There are better sources of information than a guy flogging a stepping gadget on an Infomercial.

I'm not decrying sprinting - it has its place and I've done plenty of it as part of training for racing distances between 200m and 1500m. However it does not contribute much in a thread about managing fatigue in golf.

snaphook · 31-07-2014 02:22PM

I've ordered this book from Phil Maffetone, one of the pioneers for HR cardio training.
http://www.philmaffetone.com/healthy-golfer

Will be interesting to read it.

Dr_Colossus · 31-07-2014 03:40PM

ForeRight wrote: »

Played recently with a man who was very friendly and offered me a home made chicken sandwich. Delicious I thought thank you very much.

Took one bite and nearly puked. I looked inside the sandwich and there was indeed chicken in there although there was also lumps of skin, grizzle, black bits of meat to name just a few. What sort of animal just breaks up a cooked chicken and throws the lot into a sambo?

The thoughts of it now is making me gag....

Now I just have a litre of water with small sips regular and those nature valley bars. They are in dunnes for €2 and I think you get 8 in that. A pro shop charges €1 for one.

LoL, that sounds seriously disgusting, I thought you were going to say you nearly gagged due to the amount of salt he had in his "chicken" sambo. It reminds me of another story where I was playing with an occasional golfer a couple of years ago who told me he lent his golf clubs to a "then" friend of his. A few months later he got the clubs back and decided to go play a round during which he lost a ball and reached into the pocket of his golf bag for another. While rooting in the pocket he felt some sort of sluggish goo and upon revoltingly retracting his hand discovered it covered in a kind of florescent green mould. Closer inspection found the remains of a bag of chicken wings in the pocket of his golf bag that had been festering for a couple of months in the heat. Seriously who eats chicken wings on a golf course?

This time of year I'd generally consume 2 litres of water and a banana over 18 holes. Occasionally I'd also have one of those nature valley bars on the back nine if feeling peckish which as you said can be bought in various stores when on offer for €2 per box of 6.
The odd time I play a 36 hole comp I'd prepare a few sandwiches or roll the night before with my filling of choice usually being egg with a sprinkling of salt to help replenish electrolytes. This would be in addition to breakfast before the round and a lunch between the two 18 holes. I'd also ensure to have plenty of water at hand to restock at half time along with a liter of cordial which I find gives a little extra kick.

Dealerz · 31-07-2014 03:52PM

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

LoL, that sounds seriously disgusting, I thought you were going to say you nearly gagged due to the amount of salt he had in his "chicken" sambo. It reminds me of another story where I was playing with an occasional golfer a couple of years ago who told me he lent his golf clubs to a "then" friend of his. A few months later he got the clubs back and decided to go play a round during which he lost a ball and reached into the pocket of his golf bag for another. While rooting in the pocket he felt some sort of sluggish goo and upon revoltingly retracting his hand discovered it covered in a kind of florescent green mould. Closer inspection found the remains of a bag of chicken wings in the pocket of his golf bag that had been festering for a couple of months in the heat. Seriously who eats chicken wings on a golf course?

This time of year I'd generally consume 2 litres of water and a banana over 18 holes. Occasionally I'd also have one of those nature valley bars on the back nine if feeling peckish which as you said can be bought in various stores when on offer for €2 per box of 6.
The odd time I play a 36 hole comp I'd prepare a few sandwiches or roll the night before with my filling of choice usually being egg with a sprinkling of salt to help replenish electrolytes. This would be in addition to breakfast before the round and a lunch between the two 18 holes. I'd also ensure to have plenty of water at hand to restock at half time along with a liter of cordial which I find gives a little extra kick.

Where the wings spicy or plain?

Senna · 31-07-2014 04:05PM

I got an electric trolley a couple of months ago and I can feel the difference by the end of the round. I played 18 holes last week then worked a 10 hour shift on my feet all day, before I would have been wrecked half way through the shift, now with the electric trolley nowhere near as bad.

I would usually have a litre of water and either bananas or "breakfast bake" bars, find those bars are perfect for golf. Always eat after the 8th hole as there is a bit of a walk to the 9th tee.

PARlance · 31-07-2014 04:21PM

I try to ensure that my levels of pig don't get too low.

Stock up on it in advance, then maybe a black pudding / hash brown sambo along the way.
Salty rashers are a curse though. Beware of them if you're taking this diet stuff seriously, they can cause you to take on way too much tea.

TheDoc · 31-07-2014 04:33PM

I am milling water into me and having a banana and some nature valley bars through the round.

Fatigue was a big part of my last 4 nightmare I had for a while, as well as mental stuff.

I had tried this energy paste stuff, you get in a little pack. You'll see a lot of footballers use them nowadays. They are really good, but a bit pricey tbh and I wasn't overly fond of the expense, although there was a noticeable difference.

Then again, I normally have a big dirty coffee before I play golf at the weekend mornings, so no doubt I have a serious comedown during the round

GreeBo · 31-07-2014 06:26PM

TheDoc wrote: »

I have a serious comedown during the round

I have the duck-hooks for that.

I try not to eat anything too sugary until late in the round to avoid the slump when it wears off.
Those energy pastes can be great for a quick rush but Iwouldnt be taking them early on

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