Scottie dogs at Commonwealth Games ceremony were 'disrespectful' to Muslims

Nodin · 30-07-2014 03:52PM

mad muffin wrote: »

One gobshîte?

He represents a sizeable Muslim population :rolleyes:
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Bit odd him and his mate are the only ones mouthing off then, isn't it?

mad muffin · 30-07-2014 03:58PM

Nodin wrote: »

Bit odd him and his mate are the only ones mouthing off then, isn't it?

Not did at all. It's the heat. Makes people say stupid shït

Pumpkinseeds · 30-07-2014 04:05PM

I seriously doubt most muslims gave a damn about dogs at the Common Wealth games. Fecks sake, people seem determined to demonise all muslims because of the extremism of some muslims. I'm not sure if many muslims even watched the games, I know I didn't.

darkpagandeath · 30-07-2014 04:14PM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I seriously doubt most muslims gave a damn about dogs at the Common Wealth games. Fecks sake, people seem determined to demonise all muslims because of the extremism of some muslims. I'm not sure if many muslims even watched the games, I know I didn't.

Well TBH these went to the paper, It's not one of them made up stories. If you go to the paper and go on about stupid things to do with your sky wizards/spaghetti monster people will call you up on it. Esp if it’s not even in your country, It’s just looking for offence. Most Muslims probably laugh at these lot just like the rest of us.

muddypaws · 30-07-2014 04:43PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Well TBH these went to the paper, It's not one of them made up stories. If you go to the paper and go on about stupid things to do with your sky wizards/spaghetti monster people will call you up on it. Esp if it’s not even in your country, It’s just looking for offence. Most Muslims probably laugh at these lot just like the rest of us.

Or the paper went to them. This was published in the Torygraph on the same day Cameron announced the new proposals for fracking licences. The opening ceremony was last Wednesday, the paper published the story on Monday, thats some delay.

Some of my British friends put links up to this story and were up in arms about it, not one said anything about fracking, so I guess it worked. Muslims are a very, very easy target in the UK if another story needs to be hidden.

Donkey Oaty · 30-07-2014 04:53PM

It was the Malay Mail [comments are worth a look] that broke the story, as far as I know, following a text message from Mr Outraged.

I get the impression from their story that he called the Telegraph, not the other way around.

Regardless, he has his five minutes of West-baiting.

ART6 · 30-07-2014 05:00PM

I wonder if there will ever arise a non-PC culture where people will simply tell deeply offended Moslems and the followers of all other archaic beliefs to simply f**k off and stop being a pain in the ass?

darkpagandeath · 30-07-2014 05:06PM

ART6 wrote: »

I wonder if there will ever arise a non-PC culture where people will simply tell deeply offended Moslems and the followers of all other archaic beliefs to simply f**k off and stop being a pain in the ass?

Nope as you will never find "Religions" on the list of inciting hate crimes. Any people mouthing off Religious views regardless of Religion that is designed to incite hatred should be done for it under the law. If you standing on the street spouting hate, That's incitement to hatred. Not everyone believes in your particular brand of sky wizards, And what he may have said thousands of years ago.

Rezident · 30-07-2014 08:46PM

They hate dogs as well!? Why are dogs more unclean than other animals? Do they like anybody that's not exactly the same as they are!?

Karl Stein · 30-07-2014 09:30PM

Rezident wrote: »

They hate dogs as well!? Why are dogs more unclean than other animals? Do they like anybody that's not exactly the same as they are!?

In Europe and America,
there's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Islamists
The Imam said we will bury you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Muslims love their children too

RDM_83 again · 30-07-2014 09:36PM

I never knew dogs were considered unclean by Muslims at all :-\ in fact I thought they were important with breeds like the Saluki.

Wibbs wrote: »

Exactly. Even though dogs are considered "unclean", even very devout Muslims are allowed by their religion to keep dogs for protection and hunting IIRC. While cats have been seen as both gods and devils at various times in various cultures, dogs being seen as unclean is well odd in human culture. I can't think of another that thinks like that. We wouldn't be where we are as a species without them.

Most Muslims are like most Christians, pretty a la carte about much of their religions tenets.

Took a quick wiki/google of it and it seems there is basically a lot of argument and none of the anti-dog stuff is from the Qu'an itself but from the ḥadīths and even then it doesn't seem like whats being described at the commonwealth ceremony would be considered offensive to even a hardcore fundamentalist Muslim as the dogs are presumably being handled and kept by non-Islamic People of the Book and the Islamic athletes are not in direct contact with them particularly not their saliva.
I'm sure some one with actual knowledge of Islamic jurisprudence could correct me (but this is AH so they probably won't and I can rest assured that my 5 minutes of research will make me seem like an intellectual :P )

Nodin · 30-07-2014 09:55PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

.................
I'm sure some one with actual knowledge of Islamic jurisprudence could correct me (but this is AH so they probably won't and I can rest assured that my 5 minutes of research will make me seem like an intellectual :P )

That's five minutes more than most put in.

30-07-2014 09:57PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

I never knew dogs were considered unclean by Muslims at all :-\ in fact I thought they were important with breeds like the Saluki.

Took a quick wiki/google of it and it seems there is basically a lot of argument and none of the anti-dog stuff is from the Qu'an itself but from the ḥadīths and even then it doesn't seem like whats being described at the commonwealth ceremony would be considered offensive to even a hardcore fundamentalist Muslim as the dogs are presumably being handled and kept by non-Islamic People of the Book and the Islamic athletes are not in direct contact with them particularly not their saliva.
I'm sure some one with actual knowledge of Islamic jurisprudence could correct me (but this is AH so they probably won't and I can rest assured that my 5 minutes of research will make me seem like an intellectual :P )

Yeah in seriousness I think it came from when dogs maybe were hanging around eating rubbish and actually being unclean. There's no basis for a lot of the dog hatred except some hadiths at most

Nodin · 30-07-2014 10:00PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Yeah in seriousness I think it came from when dogs maybe were hanging around eating rubbish and actually being unclean. .............

I'd say the tendency to lick you occasionally within scant seconds of licking their asses may have something to do with it as well.

RDM_83 again · 30-07-2014 11:28PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Yeah in seriousness I think it came from when dogs maybe were hanging around eating rubbish and actually being unclean.

Also when they do this

Spunge · 30-07-2014 11:32PM

Isnt it a primarily muslim region or culture that uses their actual hands to wipe themselves ?

mad muffin · 30-07-2014 11:34PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Also when they do this

Oh Jesus! :eek:

Unclean! Unclean!

magentis · 30-07-2014 11:36PM

Nodin wrote: »

I'd say the tendency to lick you occasionally within scant seconds of licking their asses may have something to do with it as well.

True.
Reminds me of that old joke.
Why does a dog lick his balls?
Because he can.

BrokenArrows · 30-07-2014 11:47PM

It saddens me that this even made the papers.

Nodin · 31-07-2014 05:29AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

It saddens me that this even made the papers.

Romanians had the day off.

kylith · 31-07-2014 11:10AM

Spunge wrote: »

Isnt it a primarily muslim region or culture that uses their actual hands to wipe themselves ?

No. They use paper, there's a commandment regarding which hand they are allowed to hold the paper in which is where the confusion comes from.

preston johnny · 31-07-2014 11:54AM

kylith wrote: »

No. They use paper, there's a commandment regarding which hand they are allowed to hold the paper in which is where the confusion comes from.

Bet they don't use Andrex!

Nodin · 31-07-2014 12:26PM

preston johnny wrote: »

Bet they don't use Andrex!

That's one to fire at the Rabbi Imam.

preston johnny · 01-08-2014 12:14AM

Nodin wrote: »

That's one to fire at the Rabbi Imam.

What would he suggest you wipe your arse on............. Jews?

Nodin · 01-08-2014 12:27AM

preston johnny wrote: »

What would he suggest you wipe your arse on............. Jews?

Is there some reason you fired that ignorant remark at me?

BreadnBuddha · 01-08-2014 12:53AM

Nodin wrote: »

Is there some reason you fired that ignorant remark at me?

I thought it amusing, personally.

Is it that time of the month?

LizT · 01-08-2014 12:58AM

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

I thought it amusing, personally.

Is it that time of the month?

Really, is that the level of discussion we've sunk to?

BreadnBuddha · 01-08-2014 01:12AM

LizT wrote: »

Really, is that the level of discussion we've sunk to?

Really?

In a thread about two right wing Malaysian politicians getting the hump about a short legged dog named Jock who needed to be carried because he was bolloxed while in the same stadium as some people who happen to be Muslims and could possibly have been offended by the terriers presence?

Somehow Nodin decides to also be offended?

You're asking ME about the level of discussion? In some kind of incredulous or perhaps offended tone?

Jesus. Sorry....eh....Jeepers. How's that? Wouldn't want to cause any more misplaced umbrage.

I'm off to have a bacon sandwich, let the dog lick the frying pan afterwards, then I'll probably have a crap sometime later and wipe my arse with the correct hand in case I shake hands with any Muslims and after watching some Billy Connolly on YouTube. Don't worry though.... The rashers won't be offered to any Muslims, Jews or Jehovah's Witnesses, I'll keep the volume down on Billy in case delicate souls overhear his crude humour, I won't laugh out loud and I'll wash my face after kissing the dog goodnight.

I'll punt an oul prayer out there too and ask for forgiveness, as it'll make me feel good for no valid reason.

Yeah. Really.

biko · 01-08-2014 09:25AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IX69mjpcA

Arthur Beesley · 01-08-2014 09:29AM

Doesn't take much to offend them

Next we'll be expected to get rid of all dogs.

Health and safety gone mad.

Scottie dogs at Commonwealth Games ceremony were 'disrespectful' to Muslims

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