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Social Housing - Irish style

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Really don't understand the bashing that goes on on this site in general sometimes, disregard the scroungers and scammers for a minute here, the point of tax payer monies is to help the lest fortunate etc.

    Why bitch and moan when money is being used for its purpose, go after the civil servants like that guy today who despite so many crooked dealings and **** ups is not being locked in jail but being given an equal or greater position in a different department or the Senator locked up yesterday who will still have all his pension waiting after he stole what to him would be a pittance really, or any ****ing politician for that matter that is claiming pensions now when they don't deserve a cent, that is where your precious tax payers monies is being pissed away,we need a civil war here to fix this place again, wipe out any and all existing political parties as they are out of date hacks and greedy ****ers getting rich off ordinary working people,rant over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    mikeym wrote: »
    He has some cheek.

    Why dont we all get council houses and flats even though some of us own properties.


    Its ok for the Wexford chef to do it.

    :rolleyes: read the bloody article ffs

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    While I'm not against social housing it always makes me feel really annoyed to hear stories like this where people seem to get away with working the system and no council officials ever call them out on it.

    The background to this is a social housing block of 54 flats in Temple Bar, it's called Crampton Court. It's down an alleyway near the river in Temple Bar and the council has wanted to redevelop it in modern 2 bed apartments which would then be offered to those tenants who wanted to return after the renovation. Others would be housed elsewhere in the city. The council got agreement with all the tenants bar one who has now held up the scheme for almost a year with his legal challenges.

    This lad, according to the Indo, is a well known awarding winning chef. Doesn't exactly sound to me like the type of guy who is in need of social housing. And then you learn that he owns a 2 bed apartment in Wexford and he also owns Papa Rhodes restaurant in Wexford as well as having another restaurant based in the US.

    It gets worse. In legal argument in court the chef demanded that the council pay him €575,000 so he could buy a 2 bed city centre apartment "preferably near a Luas stop" in order to compensate him for making him 'homeless'. In the end the judge ruled that the council should pay him €35,000 compensation to move out of this public housing and that the council should pay their own legal costs, which probably mount to way over €35,000 at this stage. I'm stunned that the judge is even giving this guy compensation for losing his social housing when clearly he has far greater financial means at his disposal compared to people who are genuinely homeless. No wonder we have an homeless epidemic when this carry on is happening.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/chef-roddy-hickson-to-be-given-35k-compensation-by-dublin-city-council-to-quit-temple-bar-flat-30468089.html

    What annoys me about this is the way the council operate the social housing system. Once you have a council house or flat you have it for life and then your kids can have it. Social housing then becomes inter-generational. At no stage will the council every come along and say, hey you guys are earning €75k a year into your household and we've got these homeless and broke people here who are in more need, so hey, perhaps time to find yourself a private rental like everyone else instead of having the council subsidize your clearly comfortable lifestyle ?'

    Why are we paying taxes into a system that rewards people who aren't even in need of social housing? And why do our councils even let it happen? Is it a fear of media coverage of them having to evict the odd family who don't want to step off the gravy train? IMO social housing should be always seen as a temporary 1-3 year solution where families are given enough time to get back on their feet before they're expected to vacate the house for someone in more need of them. The current system is very very broken and regular hard working people paying for this carry on through their taxes yet will likely never see the benefits of it.
    you won't always get to experience the benefit for every bit of tax you pay, thats life

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Lou.m


    He is in in no way representative of the majority of those in social housing. So don't dismiss a whole system because of one gob****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    I think it's absolutely ridiculous that there's social housing in Templebar anyway. The council should've sold it during the boom (or anytime really) for a nice sum and re-home the tenants somewhere else where land isn't so expensive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    Papa rhodes in wexford is stil open?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭mikeym


    :rolleyes: read the bloody article ffs

    I did actually and I want a council house.

    I deserve to have more than one property at the tax payers expense cause of the Wexford Chef.


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