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Would you tell your Kids you were a Drug Addict

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  • #32
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Warper wrote: »
    I am being protective, why bring up stuff like i was a addict?? Telling them about drug experiences can be viewed as normalising taking drugs. Dont agree with this at all. This is not being responsible imo, its practically encouragement

    Because, as the OP says, you don't stop being an addict when you stop using your drug of choice. There are a whole range of behaviours that might have confused or upset or hurt children so it is only fair to explain it so they don't end up blaming themselves or alienated from their parent.


  • #33
    Warper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    renegademaster wrote: »
    i would have no problem with my girl taking mdma/mushrooms/lsd/dmt or salvia, in safe amounts and in a safe environment when she's 18+ (minimum) but not until she's mature enough to try them. sadly I may bery well have very little input into when she may/or may not take something to experiment with. My only hope is that she'll talk to me first before ever trying anything like this for the first time so I can give her safe and honest advice, from experience and not propaganda rubbish.

    Thats where i differ. To say you would have no problem letting your kids try acid is fcuked up. I have tried all drugs and acid is one of the most unpredictable drugs you can take. To have no problem letting your kid take this says a lot about your parenting choices. There is no situation on earth where i would feel comfortable letting my kid take something like acid.


  • #34
    Spunge
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    Sure id give my young fella a few lines on his 18th


  • #35
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Warper wrote: »
    Thats where i differ. To say you would have no problem letting your kids try acid is fcuked up. I have tried all drugs and acid is one of the most unpredictable drugs you can take. To have no problem letting your kid take this says a lot about your parenting choices. There is no situation on earth where i would feel comfortable letting my kid take something like acid.

    I agree the this all the serious drug casualties I have known have been fcuked up using hallucinogenics ,acid is the last drug I would want my kid to mess around with


  • #36
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Warper wrote: »
    Thats where i differ. To say you would have no problem letting your kids try acid is fcuked up. I have tried all drugs and acid is one of the most unpredictable drugs you can take. To have no problem letting your kid take this says a lot about your parenting choices. There is no situation on earth where i would feel comfortable letting my kid take something like acid.

    You should ban them from doing it then. tell them it's evil and they shouldn't do it. Let me know how that works out.

    On a less argumentative note, LSD isn't that bad. If a person is in a good place in their life and they are in a safe environment, it should be enjoyable. I think if someone is educated enough they will be able to decide for themselves if it's a good decision or a bad one. And that's what renegademaster was getting at.

    Personally I'd be more worried about some of the other drugs on the list and mainly because they can be of dodgy purity. It doesn't matter how well educated you are if you end up being sold pcp instead of mdma.


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  • #37
    renegademaster
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    Warper wrote: »
    Thats where i differ. To say you would have no problem letting your kids try acid is fcuked up. I have tried all drugs and acid is one of the most unpredictable drugs you can take. To have no problem letting your kid take this says a lot about your parenting choices. There is no situation on earth where i would feel comfortable letting my kid take something like acid.

    ah ok, so you've had a bad trip and have decided to take the mary harney approach and recommend everybody stay away from LSD frever more now is that it, i see, it might surprise you or may even disgust you now that i've had some bad trips myself over the years but that mainly due to abusing and not respecting the powerful drug and taking it when i really had too much going on in my lfie to handle it at the time, but, that said, the majority of my LSD experiences were kick ass :)


  • #38
    Ipro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Ipro


    Once their a certian age then yes tell them. Educate them. Of you were using then you'd have first hand experience of the negative effects.

    When I was younger I'd be far more likely to listen to a "junkie" telling me they were bad and explaining the consequences then I would from someone who didn't have experience.

    Once their old enough to understand then I think yeah go for it.

    It depends what curcumstances you in. Sometimes it might be better to not say it.

    For example I was chatting a girl in prison before ( I was on a school tour years ago) and she was addicted to glue or something like that , she told me about one time when she was upset , her 5 year old daughter went to the kitchen and brought her the glue and gave it to her because she knew this made her mom happy.

    This age said was the turning point for her and she decided to become clean after this.

    It's all in context really , I'd tell them if it's to educate them , particularly if you don't use them any more but if your still using and their young you don't want to give the idea that these drugs are going to be bringing you happiness.


  • #39
    xzanti
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    This is a subject I've been pondering a lot myself.

    I think the whole "Just Say No" thing that the schools used to roll out is a bit pointless tbh.. never stopped me from doing it tbh.

    I often wondered if it was presented a bit more honestly would it make a difference.. for example: Yes, this stuff will more than likely make you feel on top of the world.. you'll feel fan-fcuking-tastic.... for a few hours.. and then you'll feel like the world is coming to an end for the next 4 days.

    You'll have flashbacks of telling people you would normally cross the street to avoid that you've always loved them.. and then make plans to go roller blading with them.

    You'll tell people things that you've never told a soul.. shameful things that you had planned on taking to the grave, and then have to avoid said person for the next year or so.

    You'll find yourself in complete strangers' sitting rooms at 4pm in the day, possibly in a different county following a session, where even the Christmas whiskey from the cabinet had been drained.. and wonder how the hell you got there, and where you're getting the money for a taxi home.. or end up doing 'the walk of shame' :pac:

    Well, so I've heard anyway.


  • #40
    Soft Falling Rain
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    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Mm not or never was an addict but don't think I'd be comfortable explaining to children about being weak enough to take drugs during rough patches of my life

    Wow, here's hoping your kids never go through such a patch.


  • #41
    Czarcasm
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    xzanti wrote: »
    This is a subject I've been pondering a lot myself.

    I think the whole "Just Say No" thing that the schools used to roll out is a bit pointless tbh.. never stopped me from doing it tbh.

    I often wondered if it was presented a bit more honestly would it make a difference.. for example: Yes, this stuff will more than likely make you feel on top of the world.. you'll feel fan-fcuking-tastic.... for a few hours.. and then you'll feel like the world is coming to an end for the next 4 days.

    You'll have flashbacks of telling people you would normally cross the street to avoid that you've always loved them.. and then make plans to go roller blading with them.

    You'll tell people things that you've never told a soul.. shameful things that you had planned on taking to the grave, and then have to avoid said person for the next year or so.

    You'll find yourself in complete strangers' sitting rooms at 4pm in the day, possibly in a different county following a session, where even the Christmas whiskey from the cabinet had been drained.. and wonder how the hell you got there, and where you're getting the money for a taxi home.. or end up doing 'the walk of shame' :pac:

    Well, so I've heard anyway.


    This is pretty much it really. Why would I tell my child anything about anything I'm ashamed that I've done or been in my past. He won't and can't experience things the same way I did, because he is a different person. His life is not the same as mine was and therefore his mind is not the same as mine was at the time.

    I honestly can't see how any good would come of me relating my experience of drugs, alcohol, or sex to my child when he has a completely different life to the one I had. He just wouldn't be able to relate on any level to my experiences. If anything, I could only see it making him MORE determined to experiment with drugs because he would be of the mindset that "just because it didn't go so well for my old man doesn't mean I'll go the same way!".

    I'd sooner just educate him with the facts, and try and de-mystify some of his pre-conceived notions that he's no doubt going to pick up from his friends in school. I would also hope that I can guide him in such a way that he doesn't feel there is anything that should be taboo about drugs and that way he would hopefully be mature enough to stay well away from drugs and would feel no need to experiment with them.


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  • #42
    Czarcasm
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    Soft Falling Rain wrote: »
    Wow, here's hoping your kids never go through such a patch.


    Isn't that the general idea?


  • #43
    xzanti
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Disclaimer:
    I would just like to point out that I have never been an 'addict' per se where it comes to street drugs.. Never touched heroin, crack, meth etc..

    Anything I did was recreational at weekends/parties/holidays/bar mitzvas* etc.. and Way back when.

    :pac:


  • #44
    conorh91
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    renegademaster wrote: »
    honesty really is the best policy, when i was growing up most adults said drugs were bad and could kill ya, now after 15 years of experimenting, prohibition ending globally and factual research coming out I now know XTC/MDMA/Magic Mushrooms/Cannabis etc all have proven medical and spiritual value.
    "proven" spiritual value?

    As for medical value, almost all drugs will be of some medical utility, however obscure or unusual as may be the case.

    In recognising medical advantages, I assume you also accept the dangers, in general, of putting unverifiable and potentially dangerous chemical compounds in your body, specifically ecstasy since you mention it?


  • #45
    Grayson
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    xzanti wrote: »
    Disclaimer:
    I would just like to point out that I have never been an 'addict' per se.. Never touched heroin, crack, meth etc..

    Anything I did was recreational at weekends/parties/holidays/bar mitzvas* etc.. and Way back when.

    :pac:

    bar mitzvas are big acid house raves? ;)


  • #46
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Mm not or never was an addict but don't think I'd be comfortable explaining to children about being weak enough to take drugs during rough patches of my life
    Aw, gutted you missed out on great craic?


  • #47
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Magaggie wrote: »
    Aw, gutted you missed out on great craic?

    ... Distraught.


  • #48
    Guy:Incognito
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    Grayson wrote: »
    I think if someone is educated enough they will be able to decide for themselves if it's a good decision or a bad one. .

    That's why no educated and/or smart people smoke so? Or do the medicinal and spiritual bonuses of a pack of Silk Cut outweigh the cancer?


  • #49
    Kelly06
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    I've never been addicted to heroin but I would tell them and here's why:

    I grew up in one of the areas badly affected by heroin in dublin in the 80's. From a young age we had talks on drugs from teachers and the guards. We couldn't play in the playground because of discarded needles etc. The fact that there was a lot of drugs flooding into the area was always a current issue and as children we were aware of it.

    Years later the parents moved to a better area when they bought their first house. They did this because the eldest was now old enough to be looking for work and they felt that to give their children the best chance they needed to get a different address.

    By the time I was 18 I had a great gang of friends and we went everywhere together. until, one summer somehow one or two of them began experimenting with heroin. Within a few months my great gang of friends was gone. It was often offered to me at parties etc. but because it was so instilled in me from a young age how dangerous it was I just couldn't even try it. Looking back I think that some of my friends grew up in a nice area with nice houses, and nice things and that heroin was never on their radar, they never got to see the effect of it or have it continually brought to their attention in school. It just wasn't taboo enough for them. They were too sheltered from it.

    A few of them are dead now, some have turned their life around and never looked back whilst others still struggle on with their addiction, robbed of their true potential, so sad.

    Op fair play for turning your life around, take a bow, you should be proud. I say when the time is right tell her about your personal experience but make sure you educate her about drugs because I feel the fear of it saved me.


  • #50
    EoghanIRL
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    Calpol is a terrible thing alright .


  • #51
    osarusan
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    I was never an addict, so I'd have no story to tell really.

    But I can imagine that some personal tales could be pretty powerful, cautionary stuff for a teenager just beginning their experimentation with a variety of legal and illegal drugs.


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  • #52
    Resonator75
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    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Mm not or never was an addict but don't think I'd be comfortable explaining to children about being weak enough to take drugs during rough patches of my life

    What a horrible, pious , judgmental , holier than thou post.


  • #53
    Czarcasm
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    Resonator75 wrote: »
    What a horrible, pious , judgmental , holier than thou post.


    Irony.


  • #54
    umop.episdn
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    If you grow up in a house with a parent who is a drug user, you don't need to worry about telling them, they will already know


  • #55
    allandanyways
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    Well done, OP, for being so honest with your children. Addiction is not an easy thing to talk to family about.


  • #56
    Resonator75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Resonator75


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Irony.

    Explain exactly how is it irony, being the big smart fella you are.

    How am I being horrible, pious , judgmental , or holier than thou? OK, judgmental, you can have that, but Id call that my opinion.

    Lame sniping there Czarcasm, expected better.

    You just hover around boards like a fly on sh1te waiting to take the contrary opinion about anything, just to make yourself seem high minded.


    Report me, seeing as you have immunity around here.


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