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Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Warper wrote: »
    No way out, the sea, the air, the land is all closed for these people and they are being massacred by the US backed Israelis.

    Their elected politicians could simply agree to a truce and stop bombing Israel. Instead of trying to save face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    http://news.sky.com/story/1306832/israeli-shell-strikes-gaza-school-15-dead
    At least 150 people were injured in the blast - the fourth time a UN facility has been hit during the start of the recent conflict.

    "Precise coordinates of the UNRWA shelter had been formally given to the Israeli army, Chris Gunness, a spokesman for the UN's Palestinian refugee agency, said on his Twitter account.

    "Over the course of the day UNRWA tried 2 coodinate with the Israeli Army a window for civilians 2 leave & it was never granted."

    Another UN official said the agency had tried to urge people to leave the building earlier, fearing it may be "a potential target".

    But Israel does not target innocent civilians :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    Their elected politicians could simply agree to a truce and stop bombing Israel. Instead of trying to save face.

    israel could simply stop bombing babies because palestinians dont like being bulldozed out of their homes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,635 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Their elected politicians could simply agree to a truce and stop bombing Israel. Instead of trying to save face.

    That's just sick to expect a people to bend over and take it at the whim of the bigger bully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Israel has its own crazy right wing fanatics. Thank god they are a very small minority and not in control like the fanatics in Gaza,...........

    Likud and its coalition partners.....they aren't doves you know. And in the occupied territories, its the fanatics who set the agenda and are indeed in control ge Hebron.

    You'll note that the advert was banned by the Government and that the reporters refer to "official" incitement.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    israel could simply stop bombing babies because palestinians dont like being bulldozed out of their homes.

    If Hamas stopped the rockets, Israel's missiles would fall silent.

    As we have already seen, when Israel stops it's missiles, Hamas just keeps merrily firing it's rockets into Israel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Their elected politicians could simply agree to a truce and stop bombing Israel. Instead of trying to save face.

    A truce? All they want is basic humanitarian rights. What they want is the lifting of the siege on Gaza? Why wont Israel allow that tell me? Until the siege is lifted they will continue to fire rockets like any people would do when being deprived of everything. All the Israelis keep saying is they have a right to defend itself. Surely then Palestinians have a right to live a normal life? Do you not agree or do like killing them like dogs? Does that make you happy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    That's just sick to expect a people to bend over and take it at the whim of the bigger bully.

    Far sicker for an elite (Hamas) to use it's civilians as fodder so that it can score a pathetic "win" against the Israeli's overwhelming resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    If Hamas stopped the rockets, Israel's missiles would fall silent.

    As we have already seen, when Israel stops it's missiles, Hamas just keeps merrily firing it's rockets into Israel.

    Hamas didn't fire any rockets for 18 months. Even when Hamas were on total ceasefire, Gaza remained blockaded. Settlement expansion continued in the West Bank which also remained under occupation.

    Jesus Christ why does this keep needing to be repeated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    If Hamas stopped the rockets Israel's missiles would fall silent.

    As we have already seen, when Israel stops it's missiles, Hamas keep merrily firing it's rockets into Israel.

    when israel isnt firing rockets it is bulldozing palestinian homes. if i was in the position of a race being eradicated by a super power, im not sure i wouldnt be firing missiles back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭NewCorkLad


    If Hamas stopped the rockets, Israel's missiles would fall silent.

    As we have already seen, when Israel stops it's missiles, Hamas just keeps merrily firing it's rockets into Israel.

    Israel started this round of assaults. Hamas have said they will agree to a ceasefire if Israel will negotiate with them, but Israel refuse to do this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    If Hamas stopped the rockets, Israel's missiles would fall silent.

    As we have already seen, when Israel stops it's missiles, Hamas just keeps merrily firing it's rockets into Israel.

    And then Israel goes back to oppressing the Palestinian people, FFS they can't even get their sick kids to hospitals because the Israeli's don't let them leave, why wouldn't they start firing ****ing missiles? Would you stand for it? How would you feel if your child died in your arms because the ambulance was kept at a road block for 8 hours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Hamas didn't fire any rockets for 18 months. Even when Hamas were on total ceasefire, Gaza remained blockaded. Settlement expansion continued in the West Bank which also remained under occupation.

    Jesus Christ why does this keep needing to be repeated.

    Because the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people must go on. The only defense they have is they fire rockets. This is genocide and Israel must be held accountable for war crimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Archie D Bunker


    I don't think you will get many on this site supporting an attack on Maccabi Haifa players or on the stupid sectarian attacks on synagogues, in contrast to the support displayed for Israels attack on gaza and the subsequent murder of civilians

    Good.
    I still stand by my words - tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who are.
    Some truths don't change with time my friend, and some people here on boards need to take a good look at themselves and at what they support and why.

    I would be the first to always make the distinction between Hamas and the Palestinians when applicable, and my heart goes to the suffering Palestinians - in particular all the innocent children.

    But at the end of the day - the Palestinians made a choice between Hamas and Fatah.
    One was corrupt but headed for peace, and the other was corrupt and promised Jihad.
    The Palestinians democratically (right?) elected Hamas, and they still support it and its Jihadist targets. They are responsible for Hamas as much as Hamas is responsible for them.

    I completely understand that Israel has to defend its own citizens first and only then think about enemy citizens.
    I see that the Israelis are doing the best they can not to hurt civilians - more than any other army in the world.
    I know that war is chaos and I'm amazed at how the Israelis manage to avoid killing so many more civilians given the conditions on the ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Archie D Bunker


    NewCorkLad wrote: »
    No it just sounds like Europe and USA are afraid to go in and get there hands dirty when they find all the ****.

    Afraid of the Palestinians?:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Warper wrote: »
    A truce? All they want is basic humanitarian rights. What they want is the lifting of the siege on Gaza? Why wont Israel allow that tell me?

    Becasue every chance they get, Hamas imports rockets and other military supplies.
    Warper wrote: »
    Until the siege is lifted they will continue to fire rockets like any people would do when being deprived of everything. All the Israelis keep saying is they have a right to defend itself. Surely then Palestinians have a right to live a normal life? Do you not agree or do like killing them like dogs? Does that make you happy?

    It makes me very sad that anyone is killed in Gaza or Israel, or anywhere else for that matter. That's why I suggest Hamas agree to a truce ASAP to prevent further loss of life. I'd also suggest Israel offer further opportunities for a face-saving ceasefire by stopping attacks to see if Hamas will stop launching rockets.

    The fact that you think I would like "killing people like dogs" says way more about you than me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,635 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Far sicker for an elite (Hamas) to use it's civilians as fodder so that it can score a pathetic "win" against the Israeli's overwhelming resources.

    Have you a link to that please?
    Preferably not a propaganda statement or pre-meditated excuse from Israel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Archie D Bunker


    Even if it did happen I can understand it.
    Israel must by now be the most hated nation on earth because of it's crimes against the men, women and children of Gaza. Anger is bound to surface as a result.
    If these footballers were attacked I would not condone it BUT I can understand it after the murders and crimes committed by Israel on the Palestinian people.

    And you also support the attacks on a Synagogue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,716 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Israel has its own crazy right wing fanatics. Thank god they are a very small minority and not in control like the fanatics in Gaza, because the conflict would have been over a long time ago, with huge numbers of casualties.

    they are not a small minority, and they are in control, and the conflict will be ended once the palestinians are eradicated and the territory taken

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Archie D Bunker


    but the state of israel likes to use the auld 'anti-semitism' shout to play up to the guilt of the rest of the world.

    but slowly even certain areas of judaism are starting to wake up to the evils of the israeli state and their agenda.

    Not really. Israel is a democratic country and there were always different views and arguments in regards to the conflict.
    By the way - where are all the peaceful life loving Palestinians urging Hamas to sign a ceasefire?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Good.
    I still stand by my words - tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who are.

    Yep. And Hamas' friends have just chased the last Christians out of Mosul after 1,600 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Have you a link to that please?
    Preferably not a propaganda statement or pre-meditated excuse from Israel.

    A link??

    That (very clearly) is my assessment of the current situation, it is not claim of one specific incident (such as a soccer match).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,199 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Becasue every chance they get, Hamas imports rockets and other military supplies.

    Whereas Israel has never imported rockets or other military supplies. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Becasue every chance they get, Hamas imports rockets and other military supplies.

    OMG no way? You mean the same way every other country in the world imports arms? what do you expect from a country thats threatened the way it is. And should Israel also stop importing weapons?

    Once again i repeat that Hamas actively shut down rockets being fired into Israel.

    Posted earlier today but you might have missed it

    Remember now these are Israeli news links and not a "biased" western media outlet
    Hamas deploys 600-strong force to prevent rocket fire at Israel
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-establishes-special-force-to-prevent-rocket-fire/#ixzz37MFA5sKO
    Hamas arrests terror cell responsible for rocket fire on Israel
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-arrests-terror-cell-responsible-for-rocket-fire-on-israel/#ixzz37MFLhn3Q
    An Israeli army general says Hamas is stopping attacks against Israel and even ‘keeps the peace’ when the IDF operates along the border.
    http://972mag.com/head-of-idfs-gaza-command-hamas-is-the-new-policeman-in-gaza/82895/
    As far as is known, the Hamas leadership in Gaza was not part of the chain of command behind the abduction, carried out by a Hamas cell from Hebron on July 12.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.603889
    Hamas has had no interest in a major escalation, and had not been directly attacking Israel until the last few days. But ever since one of its members, Mohammed Obeid, was killed in an Israeli border attack at the end of last month — an apparent error: the IDF thought it was firing at a rocket-launch cell, but actually struck Hamas members deployed to prevent rocket fire — it has changed its approach.
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-smells-israels-fear-of-escalation-and-so-the-rockets-keep-coming/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,716 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Their elected politicians could simply agree to a truce and stop bombing Israel. Instead of trying to save face.
    what is wrong with you, why do you refuse to get this point that has been explained time and time again, hamas not firing rockets will make no difference, this is about israel taking all the territory for a full jewish state, at all costs.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Archie D Bunker


    wow sierra wrote: »
    The IRA bombed England a few times - do you think a "proportionate response" would have been to drop bombs on Dublin and Galway and hospitals and kill 700 civilians and leave 1000's injured to be operated on without proper medical supplies, or even maybe electicity.

    Free world my ass - the west is totally controlled by the US which is in turn controlled by powerful Jewish interest groups.
    And - though I hate having to add this every time a comment is made about Israel - I don't f..king support Hamas either.

    "controlled by powerful Jewish interest groups" = Anti Semitism (in the old fashioned sense of the word, which excludes the Palestinians from the group and leaves only the jews in it), just fyi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Yep. And Hamas' friends have just chased the last Christians out of Mosul after 1,600 years.

    Hamas have no links with ISIS ya lunatic. It's a bit cracked to be blaming Hamas for something that happened in a country that doesn't even border Palestine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Archie D Bunker


    yet you would be wrong, as mountains of evidence that the investigation would find israel guilty of war crimes, and that the free world is wrong to vote against the investigation, exists

    The entire free world is wrong, but you are right.
    Where can I pray in the temple they built for you oh great wise one?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,716 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    If Hamas stopped the rockets, Israel's missiles would fall silent.

    As we have already seen, when Israel stops it's missiles, Hamas just keeps merrily firing it's rockets into Israel.
    you are seriously deluded

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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