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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,750 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    Really wouldnt be a bit surprised if he won POTY this year or at least was in serious contention.

    Nor me. But I doubt Dublin's games so far will have any major impact on the POTY selection, they have basically been shooting down cannon fodder so far. Performances from here on in are the ones to count.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Nor me. But I doubt Dublin's games so far will have any major impact on the POTY selection, they have basically been shooting down cannon fodder so far. Performances from here on in are the ones to count.

    Of course they will have a bearing. At the minute you can't look past Dublin in handing out POTY. It is up to other counties to put it up to them to try get it away from someone like Flynn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Nor me. But I doubt Dublin's games so far will have any major impact on the POTY selection, they have basically been shooting down cannon fodder so far. Performances from here on in are the ones to count.

    Yeah POTY will be decided from here on in obviously - but could see him ticking a lot of boxes, especially if the Dubs win it and he maintains his performance levels, which I have to say I would be utterly shocked if he doesn't.

    When you remember both Brogans & MDMA already have one, so I reckon that would count against them and look at the other possible candidates from the Dublin squad I think he has a great chance of picking it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,247 ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Saw that video on youtube, seriously classy touch from Flynn alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,750 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    AGC wrote: »
    Of course they will have a bearing. At the minute you can't look past Dublin in handing out POTY. It is up to other counties to put it up to them to try get it away from someone like Flynn.

    Very little bearing. If Dublin lose the quarter final, it is a safe bet that POTY will not be coming to the capital.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    Next game is Sat August 9th, 6pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    STB wrote: »

    These pictures from the Indo are even more damning. Looks more like a fish hook. Brogans reaction says it all.

    Those picture tell a very clear story.

    O'Gara's jersey is being pulled back to the extent that he is nearly choking/gagging. At the same time the Meath player is pulling at his face. Closing his mouth on a finger in it is a benign reaction. I am amazed that O'Gara remained so cool throughout that incident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    O'Gara and Burke seemingly both in the clear. Neither side chose to take the issue much further which is probably the sensible thing.

    I suppose the Dublin county board could have taken it further, but they're probably not petty like me!

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-charges-to-be-made-in-alleged-dublin-meath-biting-case-1.1875113?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Wise move from Meath.
    Only one winner there after those pictures became surfaced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Wise move from Meath.
    Only one winner there after those pictures became surfaced.

    Yep, thankfully everyone stepped back and cleared their heads. Heat of the moment stuff from O'Dowd, I'd say he regrets it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Became surfaced.... Lol
    Not my best use of the English language!
    You get my drift though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Beffs


    Is there anything to be said for saying another Mass sorry to the Dublin player, for trying to name and shame him before any conclusive facts or photos were revealed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    Beffs wrote: »
    Is there anything to be said for saying another Mass sorry to the Dublin player, for trying to name and shame him before any conclusive facts or photos were revealed?

    Course there won't. Media have a lot to answer for. "Allegation" was front page news, where will the story about him being cleared be in the papers tomorrow? Probably hidden away in a tiny side column.

    I know controversy sells but still..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Beffs


    Well in fairness to the media - and I don't often say that - the Meath manager handed them this story on a platter. It's not something that they made up, or dug up for themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    Beffs wrote: »
    Well in fairness to the media - and I don't often say that - the Meath manager handed them this story on a platter. It's not something that they made up, or dug up for themselves.

    I suppose so.. Maybe the naming of him was silly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    It was an attempt to deflect attention away from the performance. And it worked for a day.
    Genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Beffs


    It was more than silly. It was flat out wrong. If a manager genuinely thinks that something like that has happened to one of his players, there are procedures that need to be followed. It is not fair to start naming names and rushing to judgement, or running to the press, immediately after a game, especially if it was a bad loss. If managers do do that, lads are subjected to a trial by media, before any constructive investigating can done. That is just not right.

    The sad part of all this, is that other counties may look at this now. They will see all the brouhaha it generated. They may wonder if its worth their while to give it a go too. I really, really hope that does not happen, but with human nature, anything is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    He didn't name names in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭coolisin


    You know what, let's put a pin in it and leave it alone!

    The Dublin management reacted to this correctly tried to make it a non event, not to cover it up because it wasn't a real biting incident.

    After all of this I've watched the Sunday game a couple of times with shocked look that every player wearing a blue jersey behaved maturely in that incident I didn't see one fist raised from our point of view, yes pulling and pushing but that was it.

    However I feel if Connelly had of being on the field it may have ended differently.
    I think he'd of reacted.
    Not that I've of blamed him with the slaps that where being thrown!

    I've said it before and I'll say it again my stance on a bite is get rid of the player if they do it, like a certain soccer player!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Our hurlers are playing a vital game in a few days, and we're all talking about a total non-event.

    Time to move on lads!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭coolisin


    Sucks I can't attend this one!

    Feels like I'm letting the team down, make sure whoever is going shouts for me!

    I would love if we put one over on tipp in semple stadium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Gonna be a fun weekend for me, i'll be going with my mothers side of the family.

    They are all born and bred Tipp folk.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Past30Now


    Three quick points

    1 - We played really well for 60 minutes against Meath. Great defensive effort which meant that they coughed up the ball regularly. Delighted to see Jack getting a run, and thought that Kevin Mc was brilliant and well deserving of his place in the team.

    2 - The Meath manager was let down very badly by his player. Giving out about been bitten when you've put your hand very aggressively in the face of you opponent, at the same time as your other hand is choking the same player with his jersey was wrong on a number of scores. Continuing to give out about it ten minutes later and allowing your manager to believe that you've been seriously wronged was disgraceful and borders somewhere between stupidity and denial.

    3 - The lack of reaction by O'Gara and Costello to significant provocation was fantastic to see and an example to every footballer in the county/country. The old ways of "getting your retaliation in first" and all that that entailed should be binned. Those two lads have shown that they won't allow themselves to be riled into doing something stupid. Credit as well to Philly Mc for ignoring a punch to the side of the head towards the end of the "coming together".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Past30Now


    The picking of Jack McCaffrey last weekend seems to have come about due to Johnny Coopers unavailability. With Cooper unavailable JG picked Mick Fitz. Fitz isn't one for soloing forward too often (and couldn't do so given his role last weekend). Rory is similar,so that meant that two of the full back line were almost always in position. Hence JG could pick Jack and drop a more solid citizen in Kevin Nolan.

    What happens when Johnny Cooper is back fit? Will he get his place back from Mick Fitz, or will he replace Philly or Jack,or will he have to start from the bench.

    The forward line is similar. The half forward line picks itself (Flynn, DC and AB), but how does he pick a full forward line with BB, Kevin Mc and Paul Mannion as starters and O'Gara, Costello and Paddy Andrews almost demanding inclusion. It's a great problem to have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    Any idea where most of the dubs will be at the weekend? Torn between trying to pick up terrace tickets are going with the club bus and getting stand seats on the clubs pass..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    Past30Now wrote: »


    The forward line is similar. The half forward line picks itself (Flynn, DC and AB), but how does he pick a full forward line with BB, Kevin Mc and Paul Mannion as starters and O'Gara, Costello and Paddy Andrews almost demanding inclusion. It's a great problem to have.

    I'd think Mannion would be most at risk, probably from Andrews. I like the idea of Costello and O'Gara off the bench. Both real gamechangers, one with lightning pace and the other with sheer power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    One more poor game and i'd be dropping DC tbh.

    I'd like to see what CC is capable of from the start.

    Either way we'll have an awesome sub to bring on.

    Mike Fitz is a useful option to have, especially if the opposition have one really strong marquee forward. Think i'd be bringing Cooper back and leaving Jack where he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Past30Now


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    One more poor game and i'd be dropping DC tbh.

    I'd like to see what CC is capable of from the start.

    Either way we'll have an awesome sub to bring on.

    Mike Fitz is a useful option to have, especially if the opposition have one really strong marquee forward.

    I agree about DC but I don't see it happening. If Monaghan get through, that match will suit him. He wasn't that bad against Meath and was involved in a lot of the play in the first half. Two wides and two dropped into the goalkeeper was disappointing, and he was nowhere near of what he is capable of. Given his success with Vincents, with three top quality performances, if we win the AI, he'll be in the running for POTY.

    The main change I'd make is to start O'Gara. His physicality is frightening and he creates space for BB and the rest of the forwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    I’m not from Dublin, but couldn’t agree more with this statement. The man has quietly gone about his business for years and has developed into some kind of “larger than life” role model.

    I think it is difficult for wing forwards to establish themselves as key players on a team, as generally they are not that profilic in terms of scores and a lot of their work is tracking back after wing backs. It is over time that they develop a name for themselves e.g. Paul Galvin, Brian Dooher.

    Well you can definitely put Paul Flynn on the list of greats. Stylish player who often scores 3/4 points from play. As I say, not easy to do from wing forward. And carries no baggage in matches. Very seldom is in bother with refs, and doesn’t go looking for the limelight off the pitch. He seems determined to use the limited celebrity status that a GAA player has to enhance the lives of those less fortunate people. One of his mates committed suicide and another died from cancer.

    And it really does seem so genuine – not looking for public brownie points.

    Will leave it at that. You’d never guess that I was a big fan!!! Though from what I’ve written, it sounds like I could be some kind of Paul Flynn stalker.
    If Mayo meet Dublin this year would love to see Keith Higgins in a man marking role on Flynn. Think it would be a hard fought super contest.Need height n speed to mark Flynn. Rare enough ever to see Flynn quietened.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Joekers


    fta93 wrote: »
    Any idea where most of the dubs will be at the weekend? Torn between trying to pick up terrace tickets are going with the club bus and getting stand seats on the clubs pass..

    Just picked up 5 Town End Terrace for myself and 4 others


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