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Clerical Positions in the Civil and Public Service

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Rorster_123


    Career average divided by 2 basically after 40 years. Not much more than the old age contributory pension to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Career average divided by 2 basically after 40 years. Not much more than the old age contributory pension to be honest.

    Career average?

    so say average of 25k for 40 years, thats a pension of 12.5k?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    i've been watching this thread, good luck to everyone who applied.

    How does the public sector pension work? what kind of pension would CO's be looking at after say 25-30 years of service?

    You would need 40 years service to get a full pension and with the new "Career Average" calculations you would be talking about a weekly pension of around €216 a week with 30 years service as a CO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Career average?

    so say average of 25k for 40 years, thats a pension of 12.5k?

    Yep. You would also get a lump sum payment of around €37000


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Career average divided by 2 basically after 40 years. Not much more than the old age contributory pension to be honest.

    ridiculous question but do you claim the CS pension and the old age contributory pension or just the CS pension alone?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    gazzer wrote: »
    You would need 40 years service to get a full pension and with the new "Career Average" calculations you would be talking about a weekly pension of around €216 a week with 30 years service as a CO.

    You'd have the holiday home in the Seychelles as a consolation by then though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭guinnessdrinker


    ridiculous question but do you claim the CS pension and the old age contributory pension or just the CS pension alone?

    CS pension alone afaik.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    You'd have the holiday home in the Seychelles as a consolation by then though.

    how do you work that out? top rate of income for a CO is 37k, and it takes 20 years to get to that pay scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    how do you work that out? top rate of income for a CO is 37k, and it takes 20 years to get to that pay scale.

    Was jesting obviously!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    ridiculous question but do you claim the CS pension and the old age contributory pension or just the CS pension alone?

    There is a formula used called COPC- whereby your pension entitlement is calculated.

    You earn 1/80th of your career average salary as a pension, per year of service. So- you need 40 years of service, to earn 50% of your career average salary as a pension.

    This pension is then reduced by whatever the prevailing rate of Contributory Old Age Pension may be. At the moment the rate is 230.30 a week- aka 11,975.60 per annum. So- you only earn a civil service pension on that portion of your career average pension over 23,951........

    If you had a career average pension of 30,000 (entirely a reasonable assumption)

    You get your lumpsum of 1.5 times your career average salary (this is taxable now, it usen't be!)

    You claim the Contributory Old age pension of 230.30 a week

    You get a civil service pension of 58.16 per week (3024 per annum)

    You are expected to claim the Contributory OAP as the major part of your pension. If you are not entitled to it (e.g. if you retire before the commencement date for the OAP- currently 66, but due to rise to 70 in stages over the next 10 years)- you only get the civil service portion of the pension (58.16) a week until such time as you are entitled to the OAP- though you may be entitled to other social welfare payments (it is suggested unemployment benefit may be appropriate- though frankly, I don't see how/why).

    The 'gold plated' pension that the media love to harp on about- is a load of bullcrap for most civil servants- certainly some limited numbers of people on high salaries do get very very generous pensions- but for the vast number of civil servants- they are expected to subsist by and large on the contributory OAP- with a very small civil service stipend (in the above example- 58 Euro a week), ontop of it.

    This is something the media do not tell you..........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭price690


    invites to part b (aptitude test) have gone out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 shazzer86


    price690 wrote: »
    invites to part b (aptitude test) have gone out

    Was it via text or email? When did you do part A?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭paul64


    I received a text saying to log on and part b is due soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭davydoc


    both text and email, but it's just the thing from public jobs to tell you to expect the mail with the link for the tests before - in my case - Thursday.....not the actual mail with the link itself...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭price690


    shazzer86 wrote: »
    Was it via text or email? When did you do part A?

    email, I did my part a right at the cut off point last sunday

    everyone who did part a will be doing part b i'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭bulmersgal


    I'll expect mine in few hours I think it took 3/4 hours from the first person posting they got email till I got mine last time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭davydoc


    It seems there's a week window this time....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 bandit99


    hi just got txt also saying part b out Thursday, i done some practice ones but the numerical ones i just cant handle maths not being my best subject....should i bow out now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭price690


    where is the link to the practice tests?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 bandit99


    on saville website


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 bandit99


    theres also some on public jobs webpage under advice centre then click on test advice/sample test


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭The Gibzilla


    bandit99 wrote: »
    hi just got txt also saying part b out Thursday, i done some practice ones but the numerical ones i just cant handle maths not being my best subject....should i bow out now

    No, I wouldn't. I'd try and practice more selection tests online. If you struggle with percentages, fractions or whatever then Google sites that may help you work on some of your weaker points with the numerical exam, but I'd definitely give it a go. No harm in trying.
    price690 wrote: »
    where is the link to the practice tests?

    The link to the sample tests is in the CO Competition booklet, I don't have the link to it at the moment. It's run through Saville Consultants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 bandit99


    sure ill just try my best tanx... i dont have a bother with the questions or with the checking but the maths ones i just can't handle...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭DesertCreat_15


    Everyone going to get to next stage regardless? Or have they cut already?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    bandit99 wrote: »
    sure ill just try my best tanx... i dont have a bother with the questions or with the checking but the maths ones i just can't handle...

    Thanks, is it? What's the "questions" and the "checking" bit you speak of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭davydoc


    Everyone going to get to next stage regardless? Or have they cut already?

    Everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭DesertCreat_15


    Good ! Was starting to panic there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ***HAPPYDAYS***


    Hi guys , quick one , is there opportunity to promote urself from clerical officer to a better grade thus more money ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭davydoc


    Hi guys , quick one , is there opportunity to promote urself from clerical officer to a better grade thus more money ?

    Is there an opportunity in any job to do that ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Did my one last tuesday, no text or message thus far.


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