Smoking while pregnant

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 08:41PM

Magaggie wrote: »

Are those as harmful as smoking regularly throughout pregnancy...?

Do you have scientific proof that they are not? Doctors always tell us that we should eat healthy and those things are bad for us.

Shakespeare's Sister · 19-07-2014 08:42PM

Absoluvely wrote: »

I don't think smoking during pregnancy is any worse than feeding a child to obesity.

Yeh, neither should be done.

GIMP · 19-07-2014 08:42PM

nc19 wrote: »

I pass the Coombe a few times a day. since they stopped people smoking on the grounds the amount of pregnant women smoking openly out at the bus shelter or what not is sickening.

i just dont understand how they can do it.

has it something to do with their socioeconomic background?

would you have seen the same outside mount carmel?

i feel sick everytime i see it. i can nearly understand a heavy smoker having the odd sneaky one maybe 3/4 times in the whole 9 months where no one ever sees them but these scum dont seem to care that everyone can see them actually harming their unborn child.

just makes me very angry

Mount Carmel is closed! Btw

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 08:43PM

clarbar wrote: »

I love this thread lol

In fairness you're probably used to being referred to as scum so it's no surprise it doesn't phase you.

partyguinness · 19-07-2014 08:44PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Who says it doesn't?

Classic Straw Man argument...:rolleyes:

Shakespeare's Sister · 19-07-2014 08:44PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Do you have scientific proof that they are not? Doctors always tell us that we should eat healthy and those things are bad for us.

Post edited. The very occasional one is hardly as harmful as continuously smoking throughout pregnancy.

Shakespeare's Sister · 19-07-2014 08:46PM

clarbar wrote: »

Super should seen me smoking meth brilliant for labour pains

Can't follow.

Could you use full stops or commas? Cheers.

nc19 · 19-07-2014 08:47PM

clarbar wrote: »

I smoked while I was pregnant didn't do my child any harm but then I breastfed also doubt I'm "scum" .

Well you still would be if you continued smoking while breastfeeding.

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 08:48PM

Magaggie wrote: »

Post edited. The very occasional one is hardly as harmful as continuously smoking throughout pregnancy.

Ok

Who is to say that the smokers outside the hospital are on 20 a day? They maybe only having one for their nerves. As i said i don't advocate smoking while pregnant but i certainly wouldn't call someone scum for.d doing it either.

freshpopcorn · 19-07-2014 08:49PM

Is the OP sure that the woman was pregnant?
She might have just being a fat woman wearing pajamas visiting her sister.

myshirt · 19-07-2014 08:49PM

The thing about smoking while you are pregnant, and what people don't realise, is that WHATEVER YOU SMOKE, THE CHILD SMOKES.

So always choose a quality brand.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 19-07-2014 08:50PM

I'm not trying to excuse it, but just how damaging is smoking during pregnancy? Surely it's not on a par with drinking or drug use? If you Skylar-whited your way through it would it really do any lasting damage?

I'm only asking because I know tonnes of people whose mothers smoked and tonnes more who might as well have because of all the passive smoking they were exposed to - myself included in that last category - and they seem grand.

Toots · 19-07-2014 08:50PM

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

You know, I never once saw either a pregnant woman or a staff member smoking outside Holles St. Not only did I attend there regularly for nine months, I also work very close to the hospital. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I can't imagine it's a regular thing.

They dont do it at the front door, a few times I saw the porters asking people to move away if they were smoking at the front door. There's a little smoking shelter in the centre courtyard thing, near the entrance to the semi private clinic. I've seen it used very regularly by patients, never by staff.

nc19 · 19-07-2014 08:52PM

GIMP wrote: »

Mount Carmel is closed! Btw

Hence why i typed "would you HAVE seen it.."

But thanks for your input

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-07-2014 08:52PM

Staff would have their own area.

foxy06 · 19-07-2014 08:53PM

From experience smoking is a disgusting thing to do to your baby when pregnant. On my first I was only 19 and in shock about the pregnancy. I was a smoker and although I tried to stop I continued for the first few months. When my child was born there were problems with the placenta that I know in my heart wouldn't have happened if I hadn't smoked. The placenta basically keeps a feotus alive and I had messed with it.

I had 4 more children since and haven't smoked since 5 months into my first pregnancy and have had no problems since and my children born without cigarettes were much more content. What I was doing wad wrong and I'm embarrassed and ashamed but I am strongly against it now

FullblownRose · 19-07-2014 08:55PM

bumper234 wrote: »

And that's the crux of the matter, the ONLY thing you know about these women is that they are pregnant. Nothing about their home.life, how scared they are, their mental.state....all.you see is pregnant + smoking = scum.

I think that's a fair point, because nicotine does help people in mental distress and nobody knows how someone else is feeling/thinking, from looking at them, but it is something i always found hard to understand, too..I see why the OP would be disgusted as well...

hcass · 19-07-2014 08:57PM

What about women who pile on the weight? Women who are obese when pregnant increase their chances of preeclampsia, thrombosis, gestational diabetes, overdue pregnancy, miscarriage... the list goes on but no one ever says anything about this because there are too many overweight women. And you might offend them.

But smokers are fair game of course. Both of these are addictions and should be treated as such.

It can actually be more dangerous to give up cigarettes during pregnancy because it causes such stress to the mother which in turn affects the baby's health.

I just think people should mind their own fcking business - we all have **** going on and we deal with it in different ways. And yes, babies may suffer because of it but what are you going to do? Shout at these women, force them to give up? It's definitely not the worst thing you can do while pregnant - so I say give them the information but don't get all high and fcking mighty about it if they choose to keep smoking.

FullblownRose · 19-07-2014 08:57PM

I'd be more worried about the red wine someone mentioned, personally, though..FAR more worried

Shakespeare's Sister · 19-07-2014 08:59PM

foxy06 wrote: »

From experience smoking is a disgusting thing to do to your baby when pregnant. On my first I was only 19 and in shock about the pregnancy. I was a smoker and although I tried to stop I continued for the first few months. When my child was born there were problems with the placenta that I know in my heart wouldn't have happened if I hadn't smoked. The placenta basically keeps a feotus alive and I had messed with it.

I had 4 more children since and haven't smoked since 5 months into my first pregnancy and have had no problems since and my children born without cigarettes were much more content. What I was doing wad wrong and I'm embarrassed and ashamed but I am strongly against it now

I'd say it's a Russian roulette thing. The baby may not be harmed by the cigarettes, but there's a risk they could be.
I understand a woman having the very occasional cigarette during pregnancy though, even though the ideal would obviously be not to. Smoking regularly for the whole pregnancy though is inexcusable.

Shakespeare's Sister · 19-07-2014 09:00PM

FullblownRose wrote: »

I'd be more worried about the red wine someone mentioned, personally, though..FAR more worried

I'd be more worried about regular smoking throughout pregnancy than one glass of red wine every few weeks.

Shakespeare's Sister · 19-07-2014 09:02PM

hcass wrote: »

What about women who pile on the weight?

Nobody on this thread has said putting on weight while pregnant is ok. And no doubt their doctors say it to them too.

I just think people should mind their own fcking business - we all have **** going on and we deal with it in different ways. And yes, babies may suffer because of it but what are you going to do? Shout at these women, force them to give up? It's definitely not the worst thing you can do while pregnant - so I say give them the information but don't get all high and fcking mighty about it if they choose to keep smoking.

People can criticise those who risk making their babies suffer (as you acknowledge above) if they want.

Guy:Incognito · 19-07-2014 09:09PM

So if it's ok to have the odd one for stress while pregnant and your not scum for smoking heavily or having a couple is it ok to give young children cigarettes when they get stressed?

No Pants · 19-07-2014 09:15PM

Let them smoke. In fact, encourage them to smoke more by subsidising the cigarettes. Anything that kills the no-marks off quicker isn't a bad thing; it's a good thing. If it shortens the life of their spawn as well, that's just a welcome bonus.

partyguinness · 19-07-2014 09:21PM

hcass wrote: »

What about women who pile on the weight? Women who are obese when pregnant increase their chances of preeclampsia, thrombosis, gestational diabetes, overdue pregnancy, miscarriage... the list goes on but no one ever says anything about this because there are too many overweight women. And you might offend them.

But smokers are fair game of course. Both of these are addictions and should be treated as such.

It can actually be more dangerous to give up cigarettes during pregnancy because it causes such stress to the mother which in turn affects the baby's health.

I just think people should mind their own fcking business - we all have **** going on and we deal with it in different ways. And yes, babies may suffer because of it but what are you going to do? Shout at these women, force them to give up? It's definitely not the worst thing you can do while pregnant - so I say give them the information but don't get all high and fcking mighty about it if they choose to keep smoking.

Because is a disgusting filthy habit which causes millions of deaths, disease etc around the world. The fact ther may be **** going on in ones life is just selfish and lazy...'sure the poor cratur has been left by the father...'...give me a break.

This has nothing to do with obesity or alcoholism- it's about the pure selfishness of smoking during pregnancy. A child has enough **** to overcome without the ****ing mother shoving cancer sticks in her mouth...remember the child has no choice but to breath the mothers air.

Red herring or Straw Man arguments about obesity and alcohol are a sad and desparate attempts to deflect attention.

havana · 19-07-2014 09:22PM

Adelina Disgusting Gambler wrote: »

I'm not trying to excuse it, but just how damaging is smoking during pregnancy? Surely it's not on a par with drinking or drug use? If you Skylar-whited your way through it would it really do any lasting damage?

I'm only asking because I know tonnes of people whose mothers smoked and tonnes more who might as well have because of all the passive smoking they were exposed to - myself included in that last category - and they seem grand.

From the research I've done (I'm pregnant and smoked until I found out) it is significantly worse than moderate drinking. Certainly at the level I smoked at (maybe 12 a day).

I have the odd glass of wine - never more than one - but have not smoked at all. I did a lot of reading up in the subject and made an informed decision that's right for me.

havana · 19-07-2014 09:26PM

No Pants wrote: »

Let them smoke. In fact, encourage them to smoke more by subsidising the cigarettes. Anything that kills the no-marks off quicker isn't a bad thing; it's a good thing. If it shortens the life of their spawn as well, that's just a welcome bonus.

Lovely......you sound like a pleasant individual!

partyguinness · 19-07-2014 09:27PM

foxy06 wrote: »

From experience smoking is a disgusting thing to do to your baby when pregnant. On my first I was only 19 and in shock about the pregnancy. I was a smoker and although I tried to stop I continued for the first few months. When my child was born there were problems with the placenta that I know in my heart wouldn't have happened if I hadn't smoked. The placenta basically keeps a feotus alive and I had messed with it.

I had 4 more children since and haven't smoked since 5 months into my first pregnancy and have had no problems since and my children born without cigarettes were much more content. What I was doing wad wrong and I'm embarrassed and ashamed but I am strongly against it now

My wife was the 2nd born and her mother smoked constantly during pregnancy. Compared to the older sister (mother didnt smoke), my wife was smaller and didnt enjoy the best of health..

Everytime my wife is anyway sick (wont start listing her), her mother beats herself up with the guilt of smoking during her pregnancy. She is convinced that is the blame..its a bit sad to see her get so down about something 40 years ago.

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 09:29PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

So if it's ok to have the odd one for stress while pregnant and your not scum for smoking heavily or having a couple is it ok to give young children cigarettes when they get stressed?

Sure,in the same way it's ok to let them.have the odd glass of red wine at the weekend.

No Pants · 19-07-2014 09:31PM

havana wrote: »

Lovely......you sound like a pleasant individual!

Thanks, I'm doing my best.

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