Smoking while pregnant

nc19 · 19-07-2014 5:51pm #1

I pass the Coombe a few times a day. since they stopped people smoking on the grounds the amount of pregnant women smoking openly out at the bus shelter or what not is sickening.

i just dont understand how they can do it.

has it something to do with their socioeconomic background?

would you have seen the same outside mount carmel?

i feel sick everytime i see it. i can nearly understand a heavy smoker having the odd sneaky one maybe 3/4 times in the whole 9 months where no one ever sees them but these scum dont seem to care that everyone can see them actually harming their unborn child.

just makes me very angry

Ruu · 19-07-2014 5:52pm

Mmmmmm ahhhhhhhh you delicious bastard! I just love the damn things!

Zamboni · 19-07-2014 5:54pm

Darwinism in motion

Arbiter of Good Taste · 19-07-2014 5:55pm

nc19 wrote: »

I pass the Coombe a few times a day. since they stopped people smoking on the grounds the amount of pregnant women smoking openly out at the bus shelter or what not is sickening.

i just dont understand how they can do it.

has it something to do with their socioeconomic background?

would you have seen the same outside mount carmel?

i feel sick everytime i see it. i can nearly understand a heavy smoker having the odd sneaky one maybe 3/4 times in the whole 9 months where no one ever sees them but these scum dont seem to care that everyone can see them actually harming their unborn child.

just makes me very angry

It breaks my heart to see it when I know so many healthy women who who have had difficulties getting pregnant.

ardle1 · 19-07-2014 5:56pm

I thought it was illegal to sell cigarettes to under 16s!

Penny Tration · 19-07-2014 5:57pm

I think it's absolutely disgusting to see (and I say that as a smoker). At the same time, I can understand addiction so I can see how some can't get off of them even during pregnancy. My mam couldn't on me, but nobody cared back then anyway.

jam_mac_jam · 19-07-2014 5:57pm

Drinking is actually very dangerous also. Causes fetal alcohol syndrome which I think should be stressed also. Not that smoking is great pregnant either.

harney · 19-07-2014 5:58pm

Strangely enough there was a heavily pregnant lady smoking beside us in the beer garden today. She had 3 before her partner and her headed off. She drank coke, so obviously health concious

BigBrownBear · 19-07-2014 5:58pm

See the same at holles st plus loads of staff. Should have kept the shelters inside hospital grounds, out of sight
Out of sight, out of mind

SmokeyEyes · 19-07-2014 5:59pm

We were shocked every time we headed for an appointment in the rotunda only to be greeted with heavily pregnant women having a quick fag...just very shocking to see especially when there was people like myself busting my ass to be as good as possible. I know it's hard work to quit as I did it in my early 20s but if youre big and bold enough to create a new life you can be big enough to do the hard work to keep both of you healthy.

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 6:02pm

nc19 wrote: »

I pass the Coombe a few times a day. since they stopped people smoking on the grounds the amount of pregnant women smoking openly out at the bus shelter or what not is sickening.

i just dont understand how they can do it.

has it something to do with their socioeconomic background?

would you have seen the same outside mount carmel?

i feel sick everytime i see it. i can nearly understand a heavy smoker having the odd sneaky one maybe 3/4 times in the whole 9 months where no one ever sees them but these scum dont seem to care that everyone can see them actually harming their unborn child.

just makes me very angry

A bit harsh don't you think? You know nothing about these people so branding them as "scum" is a bit low imo.

Arbiter of Good Taste · 19-07-2014 6:08pm

bumper234 wrote: »

A bit harsh don't you think? You know nothing about these people so branding them as "scum" is a bit low imo.

No, I don't think the OP is being harsh. These people are showing a blatant disregard for the health of their child, which is pretty scummy behaviour. Why do we need to be PC about it?

Reformed Character · 19-07-2014 6:09pm

nc19 wrote: »

would you have seen the same outside mount carmel?

but these scum dont seem to care

Pretentious asshole snobbery:mad:

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 6:10pm

bumper234 wrote: »

A bit harsh don't you think? You know nothing about these people so branding them as "scum" is a bit low imo.

Pregnant and care more about their tobacco fix than the health of their child? Yeah they're scum.

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 6:13pm

bobrawn20 wrote: »

Pregnant and care more about their tobacco fix than the health of their child? Yeah they're scum.

And that's the crux of the matter, the ONLY thing you know about these women is that they are pregnant. Nothing about their home.life, how scared they are, their mental.state....all.you see is pregnant + smoking = scum.

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 6:14pm

bumper234 wrote: »

And that's the crux of the matter, the ONLY thing you know about these women is that they are pregnant. Nothing about their home.life, how scared they are, their mental.state....all.you see is pregnant + smoking = scum.

Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it doesn't matter a bit. Smoking won't fix any of that, all it will do is harm their unborn child.
You're dead right that's all I see.

If they don't want the child then they should have opted for an abortion, but don't choose to have it then fúck it up

pablomakaveli · 19-07-2014 6:16pm

I'll leave this here.

Tasden · 19-07-2014 6:24pm

bumper234 wrote: »

And that's the crux of the matter, the ONLY thing you know about these women is that they are pregnant. Nothing about their home.life, how scared they are, their mental.state....all.you see is pregnant + smoking = scum.

What has their home life or them being scared (of what?) got to do with smoking? Not being smart, I genuinely don't understand what you're getting at..

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 6:25pm

Tasden wrote: »

What has their home life or them being scared (of what?) got to do with smoking? Not being smart, I genuinely don't understand what you're getting at..

I dunno, I think it's the same "he had a hard upbringing" type excuse when some scummer is caught robbing a car

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 6:26pm

Tasden wrote: »

What has their home life or them being scared (of what?) got to do with smoking? Not being smart, I genuinely don't understand what you're getting at..

Some people find smoking to be soothing for the nerves. Yes we know it's a chemical reaction due to addiction of nicotine but some people find it impossible to quit and need that crutch in times of stress.

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 6:29pm

bumper234 wrote: »

Some people find smoking to be soothing for the nerves. Yes we know it's a chemical reaction due to addiction of nicotine but some people find it impossible to quit and need that crutch in times of stress.

They're pregnant. That's tough shít!

Sarah Bear · 19-07-2014 6:30pm

I always thought when I seen the pregnant women outside in their pjs smoking... They are obviously being kept in hospital because of complications with the pregnancy yet still expose the baby to smoking makes me angry.
A friend of mine smoked throughout her pregnancy and then when baby was born wouldn't allow anyone smoke within a 5 mile radius.., always thought it ironic

Tasden · 19-07-2014 6:31pm

bumper234 wrote: »

Some people find smoking to be soothing for the nerves. Yes we know it's a chemical reaction due to addiction of nicotine but some people find it impossible to quit and need that crutch in times of stress.

Oh right I get you now.

Don't think it justifies it though

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 6:31pm

bobrawn20 wrote: »

They're pregnant. That's tough shít!

Well then maybe all.pregnant women need to.stay indoors all day too, not fair on baby if you decide to go out and suck in all those exhaust fumes. Also no buggy for baby after he is born, buggy keeps baby at car exhaust level. Scummy of anyone to force their child to breath these toxic fumes right? :rolleyes:

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 6:32pm

bumper234 wrote: »

Well then maybe all.pregnant women need to.stay indoors all day too, not fair on baby if you decide to go out and suck in all those exhaust fumes. Also no buggy for baby after he is born, buggy keeps baby at car exhaust level. Scummy of anyone to force their child to breath these toxic fumes right? :rolleyes:

Strawman.

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 6:33pm

Tasden wrote: »

Oh right I get you now.

Don't think it justifies it though

Not saying it justifies it, not saying i agree with it, am.saying i can see why some would and therefore there is no need for some posters in here to brand them as scum.

Chattastrophe! · 19-07-2014 6:33pm

BigBrownBear wrote: »

See the same at holles st plus loads of staff. Should have kept the shelters inside hospital grounds, out of sight
Out of sight, out of mind

You know, I never once saw either a pregnant woman or a staff member smoking outside Holles St. Not only did I attend there regularly for nine months, I also work very close to the hospital. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I can't imagine it's a regular thing.

bumper234 · 19-07-2014 6:34pm

bobrawn20 wrote: »

Strawman.

If you say so.

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 6:35pm

bumper234 wrote: »

If you say so.

You just equated something practically impossible to avoid with something they're voluntarily choosing to do..yeah it's one of the most obvious strawman arguments I've ever seen.

looking_around · 19-07-2014 6:38pm

bobrawn20 wrote: »

Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it doesn't matter a bit. Smoking won't fix any of that, all it will do is harm their unborn child.
You're dead right that's all I see.

If they don't want the child then they should have opted for an abortion, but don't choose to have it then fúck it up

That would be great and all........., if it was legal.

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 6:40pm

looking_around wrote: »

That would be great and all........., it was legal.

Less than the cost of a taxi to fly to England and back.

Snake · 19-07-2014 6:40pm

If you choose to get pregnant and you choose to smoke you're a bad person. Even when my girlfriend got pregnant I switched to ecig so I wouldn't be harming the baby. She doesnt smoke and if she did she wouldn't be smoking. There's worse things to do than giving up the fags and if you give any sort of a damn about your baby you wouldn't smoke. It's a disgusting sight as is pregnant women drinking alcohol. If you cant care for the baby before he's born you're not likely to do much better afterwards

looking_around · 19-07-2014 6:42pm

bobrawn20 wrote: »

Less than the cost of a taxi to fly to England and back.

Yes that's the answer, send em over to England. Also costs at least 60quid return flight to Uk.
And it's hardly there and back on the same day.

It really isn't an option for most women. (though it should be)

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 19-07-2014 6:58pm

Ruu wrote: »

Mmmmmm ahhhhhhhh you delicious bastard! I just love the damn things!

Cigarettes or pregnant women?

nc19 · 19-07-2014 7:09pm

bumper234 wrote: »

A bit harsh don't you think? You know nothing about these people so branding them as "scum" is a bit low imo.

Smoking while pregnant MAKES them scum imo. It doesnt matter if they were a saint before

nc19 · 19-07-2014 7:12pm

Reformed Character wrote: »

Pretentious asshole snobbery:mad:

Having never been to mount carmel(a snob i am not) i was asking a genuine qs.

blowing off the fact they are smoking by claiming my concern to be nothing more than snobbery is weak imo

Feeling guilty perhaps?

Absoluvely · 19-07-2014 7:12pm

I don't think smoking during pregnancy is any worse than feeding a child to obesity.

ted1 · 19-07-2014 7:14pm

bumper234 wrote: »

A bit harsh don't you think? You know nothing about these people so branding them as "scum" is a bit low imo.

Mothers to be putting their child in danger by smoking would classify as scum to me.

Guy:Incognito · 19-07-2014 7:18pm

looking_around wrote: »

And it's hardly there and back on the same day.

It is actually. Get to the clinic first thing. Out and on your way by early afternoon. The open Saturdays too, you don't even have to miss work.

clarbar · 19-07-2014 7:19pm

I smoked while I was pregnant didn't do my child any harm but then I breastfed also doubt I'm "scum" . I could say the same for people who don't breastfeed but then I would probably sound like an obnoxious assh@le

Guy:Incognito · 19-07-2014 7:20pm

Absoluvely wrote: »

I don't think smoking during pregnancy is any worse than feeding a child to obesity.

Well then don't do that either.

Guy:Incognito · 19-07-2014 7:22pm

clarbar wrote: »

I smoked while I was pregnant didn't do my child any harm

How old is the child now? Would you let them smoke?

Would you let them smoke from an early age? If it did no harm then why not?

clarbar · 19-07-2014 7:24pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How old is the child now? Would you let them smoke?

Would you let them smoke from an early age? If it did no harm then why not?

Sure why not

ask a stupid question and you ll get a stupid answer

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 7:24pm

clarbar wrote: »

also doubt I'm "scum"

Your actions were those of a scumbag.

Guy:Incognito · 19-07-2014 7:27pm

clarbar wrote: »

Sure why not

ask a stupid question and you ll get a stupid answer

If smoking while pregnant did the child no harm why would the child smoking themselves do any harm?

clarbar · 19-07-2014 7:28pm

bobrawn20 wrote: »

Your actions were those of a scumbag.

Super should seen me smoking meth brilliant for labour pains

bobrawn20 · 19-07-2014 7:32pm

clarbar wrote: »

Super should seen me smoking meth brilliant for labour pains

Lol actually looking at your post history everything becomes clear :pac:

Pawwed Rig · 19-07-2014 7:34pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

You know, I never once saw either a pregnant woman or a staff member smoking outside Holles St. Not only did I attend there regularly for nine months, I also work very close to the hospital. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I can't imagine it's a regular thing.

I live beside Holles Street and pass there most days. It would be unusual that there is not a pregnant woman outside smoking in my experience.
There are normally 5-6 people smoking outside at any one time, couple of staff, couple of visitors and the women themselves.
So much so that I was actually thinking about starting a thread on this very subject in the parenting forum.

mrsbyrne · 19-07-2014 7:34pm

clarbar wrote: »

Sure why not

ask a stupid question and you ll get a stupid answer

But if you let your child smoke in the womb then he might as well start smoking as soon as he can light a fag.. Sure it didn't do his developing lungs any damage , did it?
Anyway, the important thing is that you didn't have to make any sacrifices for your baby. That's the main thing.

partyguinness · 19-07-2014 7:35pm

bumper234 wrote: »

A bit harsh don't you think? You know nothing about these people so branding them as "scum" is a bit low imo.

That fact that they are smoking while pregnant propably qualifies as scum on its own merits.

Tasden · 19-07-2014 7:35pm

clarbar wrote: »

I smoked while I was pregnant didn't do my child any harm but then I breastfed also doubt I'm "scum" . I could say the same for people who don't breastfeed but then I would probably sound like an obnoxious assh@le

Just because you breastfed it doesn't take away from the fact that your put baby's health at risk prior to that.

And unless people are substituting formula with harmful chemicals its not exactly comparable.

Smoking while pregnant

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