Wayne Dundon guilty of Roy Collins murder.

irishproduce · 19-07-2014 12:34AM

Is there really a worse bunch coming through as other posters have remarked? Surely the ranks of this grouping have been broken up...

michael999999 · 19-07-2014 01:42PM

irishproduce wrote: »

Is there really a worse bunch coming through as other posters have remarked? Surely the ranks of this grouping have been broken up...

As long as there's so much money to be made from drugs! Yes.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-07-2014 02:37PM

There will also be a power vacuum with the Dundons gone so the next wave of thugs will fight each other to fill it.

Crime is a problem society will always have, it's a constant cycle.

biko · 19-07-2014 02:44PM

Sounds like you just wanna give up. Do you?

WilyCoyote · 19-07-2014 02:44PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There will also be a power vacuum with the Dundons gone so the next wave of thugs will fight each other to fill it.

Crime is a problem society will always have, it's a constant cycle.

Why have cops then? For speed traps, GAA matches etc. If the gardai did their jobs as they should have the gang problem in Limerick would never have occurred.

And cuts cannot be brought into the debate. After all, it's Limerick ffs ....... not LA or Sao Paulo.

biko · 19-07-2014 02:59PM

Yes, crime will always exist but it's up to civil society to stand together against scummers and let the justice system and the garda do their job.
Crime families like these are the scourge of their neighbourhoods and their cities in general.
The Dundons came over to Limerick from London and have been nothing but a problem for the city.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-07-2014 03:03PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Why have cops then? For speed traps, GAA matches etc. If the gardai did their jobs as they should have the gang problem in Limerick would never have occurred.

And cuts cannot be brought into the debate. After all, it's Limerick ffs ....... not LA or Sao Paulo.

Do you see a day when there's no crime? There'll always be people who veer off in that direction in each generation. I'm not saying don't fight it, I think the Gardai have done a great job in Limerick over the last couple of years when you consider how bad things were in the 00s.

I think they probably were naive when it first got going but once drugs became gangs main earner the whole thing expanded and got more organised making it harder to combat.

WilyCoyote · 19-07-2014 04:41PM

Who runs the planning dept that covers Hyde Rd? Have you seen some of the additions? Were the planning dept intimidated by these pariahs?
The gardai did not do their duty at the time. And the approach that they took failed miserably ........... allowing the proliferation of crime/thuggery/terrorism.
O'Dea's boast that he could walk anywhere without fear shows how much the little upstart was removed from real life.

Shakespeare's Sister · 20-07-2014 01:58PM

If these maniacs aren't an argument for legalisation or decriminalisation of drugs, I don't know what is.

biko wrote: »

Yes, crime will always exist but it's up to civil society to stand together against scummers and let the justice system and the garda do their job.

Civil people standing up to them is a lovely idea, but reality is a good deal more brutal.
People *are* letting the justice system and guards do their job - guards are under-resourced, sentencing can be bafflingly lenient.
Vigilantism is not the ideal, but I can completely understand it being resorted to by a community at the end of its tether.

suicide_circus · 20-07-2014 02:12PM

Did anyone else hear Roy's father Steve on Marian Finnuchan yesterday - the whole spiel baggars belief. Those vermin operating with absolute impunity from mountjoy where all the staff feared them. If Dundon wanted to speak to the governor, he basically just waltzed into his office where as other prisoners had to make an appointment, be searched and left in a holding cell and the were given an audience.

mickydoomsux · 20-07-2014 02:13PM

Magaggie wrote: »

If these maniacs aren't an argument for legalisation or decriminalisation of drugs, I don't know what is.

If it wasn't the drugs market fueling their actions then if would be some other illegal venture that would produce the same behaviour.

These people are garbage and should be treated as such.

michael999999 · 20-07-2014 02:18PM

Why the hell aren't mobile signal blockers not around every inch of the prisons?

dundalkfc10 · 20-07-2014 02:21PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There will also be a power vacuum with the Dundons gone so the next wave of thugs will fight each other to fill it.

Crime is a problem society will always have, it's a constant cycle.

Alot of Dundons are living in Dundalk now, Taking over the drugs market. Gardai are very worried I hear.
Didnt think it would be possible for this town to get worse, but looks like its about too

JillyQ · 20-07-2014 02:36PM

michael999999 wrote: »

Why the hell aren't mobile signal blockers not around every inch of the prisons?

That would be sensible but all the do gooders would be up in arms over it.

take everything · 20-07-2014 02:36PM

Just reading today that the partner of one of the Dundon's ex's was the gang leader (at the age of 16) in that horrific gang rape in Cratloe Woods a few years ago. The guy was 16. The mind boggles. Then I read how he has been walking the streets for the past few years (he was done again for violent robbery last year).

What the fcuk is wrong with our justice system.
He was already out AND on a suspended sentence for yet another crime in the meantime.
These fellas are laughing.

I can only imagine what the victims are feeling about it. http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local-news/convicted-limerick-rapist-thomas-o-neill-back-behind-bars-1-5561592

Highflyer13 · 20-07-2014 03:02PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Alot of Dundons are living in Dundalk now, Taking over the drugs market. Gardai are very worried I hear.
Didnt think it would be possible for this town to get worse, but looks like its about too

They'll hardly be let run amok in Dundalk will they? I'd expect some group/vigilantes to nip that in the bud fairly quickly.

artful_codger · 20-07-2014 04:08PM

michael999999 wrote: »

Why the hell aren't mobile signal blockers not around every inch of the prisons?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/inmates-foil-mobile-phone-blockers-108631.html

Reformed Character · 20-07-2014 05:01PM

artful_codger wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/inmates-foil-mobile-phone-blockers-108631.html

Thanks for the 5 year old link:rolleyes:

artful_codger · 20-07-2014 10:26PM

Reformed Character wrote: »

Thanks for the 5 year old link:rolleyes:

Do facts go out of fashion after a few years for you lol? Has nearby Portlaoise Hospital been moved in recent years? The story states that Skype phones and Satellite phones cannot be blocked, unless you'd like to share your scientific breakthrough with the world?

Tosspot :rolleyes:

El Weirdo · 21-07-2014 11:25AM

JillyQ wrote: »

That would be sensible but all the do gooders would be up in arms over it.

Nonsense.

WilyCoyote · 21-07-2014 09:11PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Alot of Dundons are living in Dundalk now, Taking over the drugs market. Gardai are very worried I hear.
Didnt think it would be possible for this town to get worse, but looks like its about too

How do you mean "a lot of Dundons"? Are they blood relatives of these fuckers? Is there some sort of Dundon A I lab giving free sperm to childless couples?

tomwaterford · 21-07-2014 09:37PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

How do you mean "a lot of Dundons"? Are they blood relatives of these fuckers? Is there some sort of Dundon A I lab giving free sperm to childless couples?

think he may have meant the ones that moved/ran out of limerick relocated to Dundalk??

realdanbreen · 21-07-2014 09:57PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

think he may have meant the ones that moved/ran out of limerick relocated to Dundalk??

There aren't any more.Wayne,Dessie &John are all doing life.Ger is just out and the fifth one,Ken jr, doesn't appear to have ever got involved in serious crime.

WilyCoyote · 22-07-2014 02:47PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

There aren't any more.Wayne,Dessie &John are all doing life.Ger is just out and the fifth one,Ken jr, doesn't appear to have ever got involved in serious crime.

If I was the old man I'd be thinking of getting a DNA of Junior!

Doing a solo run ....... no sense of family etc

topper75 · 22-07-2014 03:22PM

Ken Jr. is his own man. People in Limerick will know what I mean.

WilyCoyote · 22-07-2014 05:27PM

topper75 wrote: »

Ken Jr. is his own man. People in Limerick will know what I mean.

Please elucidate .......... if it's common knowledge.

Egginacup · 22-07-2014 06:22PM

cletus van damme wrote: »

There is only 1 sentence he can get and that's life sentence.
To get out after a Life Sentence you need to pass parole board - there is no set time.

also there is no "automatic remission" for murder but fire away with your ranting.

I believe that at the very minimum you serve 14 years...or maybe it's 12 but that the first time there is a parole hearing.

realdanbreen · 22-07-2014 09:38PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Please elucidate .......... if it's common knowledge.

Junior isn't into the ladies.

WilyCoyote · 23-07-2014 01:24AM

realdanbreen wrote: »

Junior isn't into the ladies.

Oooh! Exotic. Is that a gun in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?

gctest50 · 23-07-2014 01:37AM

artful_codger wrote: »

The story states that Skype phones and Satellite phones cannot be blocked, unless you'd like to share your scientific breakthrough with the world?

Tosspot :rolleyes:

Easy to block skype

&

The ECM 651 satellite phone blocker does exactly what the name suggests. It blocks the use of satellite phones. It can be used to improve privacy and safety when the undesired use of satellite phone equipment could compromise security.
http://www.qccglobal.com/products/ecm-651-satellite-phone-blocker

Wayne Dundon guilty of Roy Collins murder.

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