Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

Deleted User wrote: »

When?

Whenever they can. The whole point is that there is no possible use for tunnels from Gaza to Israel dug by Hamas other than destructive terrorist activities, or if you believe me wrong then please explain what other use they could have. Is Israel supposed to wait 'till Hamas uses one of these tunnels before it can act?

Deleted User wrote: »

Good thing the Israelis got in the exact instance before they were used eh?

You seem to be missing the point entirely, what do you think they would have been used for? Do tell please..
Oh I realise, Hamas were making girls' dolls and the only way they could sell them was by digging tunnels to Israel.

RoryMac wrote: »

I'd imagine that the tunnels are primarily used to bring in goods restricted by the sanctions imposed by Israel many of which are things we would consider everyday items chocolate, orange juice & batteries

From Israel? Who do you think in Israel would co-operate with Palestinian tunnel builders?

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're as baffled as me as to why all of a sudden now they need to start bombing beaches and apartment blocks? Glad we cleared that up.

Bombing beaches is disgraceful and unforgiveable, I cannot imagine what was there that needed attacking. Apartment blocks? Who knows? It is not after all unheard of to use residential areas as cover. But beaches?

Schweaty Balls wrote: »

Israel has the 4th best military in the world

"4th best" ?

Who beat them into third position and how was this game even scored?.

There's some incredible amount of bullsh*t posted in this thread.

steddyeddy wrote: »

Every post of yours on this thread tells people they know nothing. Without you actually post evidence to the contrary.

Why should I post evidence that they know nothing, I quote the evidence ~ its clear to see there's a majority of knee jerk posters in this thread who know nothing about the situation in Gaza either before (nor will they care) after this latest road of attacks..

This subject is 'protesting 101 for dummies'.

I post in these threads a lot, but I like to think my views are well balanced. I argue for the rights of Palestinian people even after Israel decides to de esculate their attacks on Gaza.

I'm totally against all human rights abuses in Gaza, including the persecution of homosexuals (I can't even say "gay community" because there is no 'community' there), political opposition (Fatah-Hamas war any one?), honor killings, using human shields etc etc

A majority here don't even know about the Egyptian involvement in the blockade.

People talk about 'disportional force used by the IDF, I agree its totally disportional but I've news for you and everyone else ~ thats how battles are won ~ go see one someday and stop living them through youtube clips and thinking you know something of what its like.

A good clip filmed from inside Gaza;



I've news for people, this isn't a football game ~ you don't pick sides and stick by it through thick and thin or you do your chosen side a disservice.. Try balance your opinion with some research.

Its wrong and reprehensible that Israel are killing so many innocents, and I hope that someday they're called for answer for some their actions but Hamas also has an obligation to bring peace to its people.

Now I'm off over to the Dial, good luck.

tayto lover wrote: »

Ha they have done a lot more attacking than defending. The poor things. Very few Israeli casualties.

Read up on the Arab Israeli wars since 1948 and come back and tell us who has done the most attacking. Since the eve of its independence Israel has been under constant attack and has always been in a position whereby its defending its borders.

As for the few casualties, I'm taking it you mean in the Israeli/Palestinian conflicts in recent times?.. Then yes you're correct, but thats not by design.

Make no mistake about it, if Hamas could it would murder every man, woman and child in Israel.. The very fact that it launches unguided rockets towards Israel is an attack on every man, woman, child, tourist, Arab, Druze ~ everyone in Israel is their target.

And in fact on a daily basis Hamas kills more Palestinians that the Israeli's do, they really are a persecuted people.

Worple wrote: »

Israel has been illegally expanding its borders and then defending them

Israel commits war crimes in every war it has, phosphorus and chemical warfare

Israel kills civilians whole scale 1 in 5 murders is a child

Israel keeps the Palestinian population in the largest prison camp in the world with everything from paper to sewage pipes not allowed in

So there is no surprise that HAMAS want to kill them

Duh, this is so bloody easy its almost laughable at this stage.

Right WP is not illegal or banned under any treaty ~ it IS banned for use against civilians, but then guess what ~ ALL weapons are banned for use against civilians.

1 in 5 deaths are of children?.. Tbh I thought it would be higher, I'd like to see UN references on those figures or is that from someone's facebook status that you're mindlessly repeating?.

Believe it or not Palestinians are in a minority in Gaza ~ go figure that one!.. anyway Palestinians are refugee's inside Gaza which the Israeli's won't allow right of return (UNRWA is your friend if you want to look further than facebook & boards.ie into it).

Gaza is not food or supply dependent on anyone, not even the UN although the assistance from the UN greatly helps the people of Gaza in their day to day lives.. As for supplies, Hamas declared war on Israel and its perfectly legal for a country to deny its enemy supplies ~ this works for all wars, no warring faction will willingly supply its adversary supplies.

To your last point, no I'm not surprised Hamas wants to kill Israeli's ~ not in the least bit surprised.. Would you be surprised if I told you Hamas are fairly good at this ol' killing game?. It kills its political opponents, it kills gays and drug users, it kills freedom of the press, it kills freedom of religious expression ~ it kills whomever it bloody feels like killing!.

Hamas are terrorists both to outsiders and to their own people ~ this this has shifted lightly with the ground phase of the IDF operation, IMO once you invade then the people fighting you become freedom fighters.

I feel deeply for the people of both the WB and Gaza, but thankfully I'm mature and calm enough to draw on my own life experiences and look at both sides of a debate instead of running to these discussions in hysterics with the latest facebook status figures on deaths in Gaza.

Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: »

To your last point, no I'm not surprised Hamas wants to kill Israeli's ~ not in the least bit surprised.. Would you be surprised if I told you Hamas are fairly good at this ol' killing game?. It kills its political opponents, it kills gays and drug users, it kills freedom of the press, it kills freedom of religious expression ~ it kills whomever it bloody feels like killing!.

Hamas are terrorists both to outsiders and to their own people ~ this this has shifted lightly with the ground phase of the IDF operation, IMO once you invade then the people fighting you become freedom fighters.

I feel deeply for the people of both the WB and Gaza, but thankfully I'm mature and calm enough to draw on my own life experiences and look at both sides of a debate instead of running to these discussions in hysterics with the latest facebook status figures on deaths in Gaza.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you or see things the same way you do it doesn't mean they aren't being calm/mature/objective, they just don't hold the same opinion/belief as you. And I don't even know why you're bringing facebook status figures into it tbh.