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Father catches child abuser in the act.

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  • #32
    jantheman91
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    looking_around wrote: »
    Nobody can say how they'd actually react until in that situation, and hopefully, nobody here will ever have to be in such a situation.

    But surely losing control and beating the guy in front of child, is not in the best interests of the child.
    It's possible to restrain someone without braking bones and turning into a maniac yourself.

    And no I'm not defending the child molester. But 2 wrongs don't make a right. I haven't read the link but unless the molester attacked back and the it became more of self-defence. I don't think the father was very restrained.

    This ideology really fcuking irks the life out of me.

    Sitting back and watching scumbags do whatever they like and getting away with it as a result of a failed justice system doesn't either.

    If they can't learn a lesson, they'll be taught it.

    Fair play to the Dad.


  • #33
    looking_around
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    jantheman91 wrote: »
    This ideology really fcuking irks the life out of me.

    Sitting back and watching scumbags do whatever they like and getting away with it as a result of a failed justice system doesn't either.

    Fair play to the Dad.

    Did I say sit back and do nothing? Don't recall saying that. :rolleyes:
    If they can't learn a lesson, they'll be taught it.

    Can't be taught, if they can't learn.


  • #34
    RGDATA!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    Supercell wrote: »
    Surprised the PC brigade isn't all over this already.

    :confused: What is it you were expecting the "PC brigade" to say about this?


  • #35
    _Kaiser_
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    looking_around wrote: »
    Nobody can say how they'd actually react until in that situation, and hopefully, nobody here will ever have to be in such a situation.

    But surely losing control and beating the guy in front of child, is not in the best interests of the child.
    It's possible to restrain someone without braking bones and turning into a maniac yourself.

    And no I'm not defending the child molester. But 2 wrongs don't make a right. I haven't read the link but unless the molester attacked back and the it became more of self-defence. I don't think the father was very restrained.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9aENGodu5A


  • #36
    looking_around
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9aENGodu5A

    I can't watch youtube clips, so say your point or don't bother posting at all.


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  • #37
    Hotfail.com
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    Macavity. wrote: »
    Exactly, it always baffles me how these threads always include people who are much more concerned with the punishment of the perpetrator rather than the welfare of the victim. So much so it because the focus of the thread.

    These sort of crime-related threads always turn into a big macho circle-jerk. "I'd have killed him" "He deserves a slow death" etc. etc. What the father did was perfectly reasonable imo, but it's the people who seem to be advocating torture that worry me (in fairness this thread has had little of that so far).

    This is the prime example: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=90742599 Apparently that man had his arm ripped off and bled to death slowly, cue a massive celebration of his death on AH: "I hope he died screaming" etc., disgusting. He deserved to be punished but him bleeding to death isn't something that would exactly bring joy to my heart. Also note the lack of sympathy shown for the victim of the crime.

    Personally don't think the thank-whoring helps, you know when you open a thread like this that if you say something about torture/murder/beating to death/castration you'll get a fair few thanks.

    I'm guessing people aren't going to like this post.....


  • #38
    Sulla Felix
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    Tbh I'd rather see him locked up. If me giving the abuser a hiding puts in jeopardy the chance of him getting a worse punishment then I'd hold off on it. If he manages to get away with it, or if I felt the jail term wasn't long enough, I could always track him down and give him a hiding then. :pac:


  • #39
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Baron Kurtz wrote: »
    Yeah, sure.

    Indeed.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    I think that's being unfair on our cops. I'd bet the farm that if it was the same scenario here the Guards would be just as sympathetic.
    Guy in Louth got done for running over a burglar a few years ago unfortunately.


  • #41
    Hotfail.com
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Guy in Louth got done for running over a burglar a few years ago unfortunately.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0215/312377-mccaugheym/

    Doesn't look like it


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  • #42
    jonon9
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    Ed Winchester wrote: »
    Spot on. He doesn't have a case to answer at all.

    Far play to the father I somehow think if that happened in this country the father would be arrested for beating the pedo


  • #43
    [Deleted User]
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    Hotfail.com wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0215/312377-mccaugheym/

    Doesn't look like it
    As far as the Gardai are concerned I meant.


  • #44
    ElvisChrist6
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    Macavity. wrote: »
    It's easy to say you'd have killed the man on the internet but really, unless you have killed before, there is no way for sure you know how you'd react.

    Someone doing something like this to your child goes beyond that though, I doubt there's anyone who could hold themselves back and not just want blood, no matter what you're capable of normally. I honestly believe that most people would at least do what the father in question did.


  • #45
    Hotfail.com
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    As far as the Gardai are concerned I meant.

    To be honest I think the Gardaí were perfectly reasonable to arrest him in that case, he chased the burglar in his car to a different estate, drove into him and broke his leg. Don't really think the guard had any other option in that case.


  • #46
    [Deleted User]
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    Hotfail.com wrote: »
    To be honest I think the Gardaí were perfectly reasonable to arrest him in that case, he chased the burglar in his car to a different estate, drove into him and broke his leg. Don't really think the guard had any other option in that case.
    You're going a bit off-topic from the point I was arguing with Wibbs. If he would like to say he meant sympathetic rather than following the rules that's up to him.


  • #47
    caustic 1
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    Wonder was the offender known to him or just a random stranger who entered into his house.
    I honestly think if it were me they wouldn't be taking mugshots of him it would be on the slab.


  • #48
    Ditch
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    "He is nice and knocked out on the floor for you,"

    Best f**king line I've ever read on the internet! :D


  • #49
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    caustic 1 wrote: »
    Wonder was the offender known to him or just a random stranger who entered into his house.
    I honestly think if it were me they wouldn't be taking mugshots of him it would be on the slab.

    Going by the report it definitely wasn't an opportunist crime anyway ""You have an 18-year-old who has clearly picked his target, groomed his target and had sex with the victim multiple times."

    I'm glad the police there saw some sense and didn't prosecute the father, I can't say that I'm confident that the Guards would have the same reaction.


  • #50
    chrysagon
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    id have incorporated him in the patio contruction going on at my house, definetly rsulting in him been a hardened criminal..under a ton of concrete!


  • #51
    dark crystal
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    caustic 1 wrote: »
    Wonder was the offender known to him or just a random stranger who entered into his house.
    I honestly think if it were me they wouldn't be taking mugshots of him it would be on the slab.

    Apparantly he was related to the family and had been abusing the boy for three years.

    I think most parents, faced with walking in and finding a grown man with his pants down around his ankles performing a sex act on their 11 year old child, would do the same. Not because they're hard men or women, but because parental instinct would just automatically kick in.

    Delighted the father didn't get charged in this case.


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  • #52
    Angry_Mammarys
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    I woulda boiled the kettle and poured it on his mickey!! twisted b@stard. Fair play to the father.


  • #53
    Holsten
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    caustic 1 wrote: »
    Wonder was the offender known to him or just a random stranger who entered into his house.
    I honestly think if it were me they wouldn't be taking mugshots of him it would be on the slab.
    90% of all forms of sexual abuse are committed by someone known to the offender. It's probably even higher than that. Stranger danger is a myth.

    As for this guy I don't think it's right but it would be expected. Natural to want to protect your family.

    Lucky he didn't get any charges, the last thing an abused child needs is their parents locked up.


  • #54
    salmocab
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    I think that's being unfair on our cops. I'd bet the farm that if it was the same scenario here the Guards would be just as sympathetic.

    Im positive the guards would be just as sympathetic thats why I used the word pretend


  • #55
    Macavity.
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    Angry_Mammarys wrote: »
    I woulda boiled the kettle and poured it on his mickey!! twisted bastard. Fair play to the father.

    Yes, leave the child with the rapist and go boil the kettle! That seems like the responsible thing to do.


  • #56
    magicbastarder
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    gotta love the way that if you advocate that the father had incapacitated - but not revenge beaten - the perp here, you're seen as weak.


  • #57
    Angry_Mammarys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Angry_Mammarys


    Macavity. wrote: »
    Yes, leave the child with the rapist and go boil the kettle! That seems like the responsible thing to do.


    Don't be such a moron:rolleyes:


  • #58
    bobrawn20
    Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭bobrawn20


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    gotta love the way that if you advocate that the father had incapacitated - but not revenge beaten - the perp here, you're seen as weak.

    Nope, just seen as a liar that you'd do anything different.


  • #59
    Hotfail.com
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    gotta love the way that if you advocate that the father had incapacitated - but not revenge beaten - the perp here, you're seen as weak.

    Yep, you'll also probably be called a "liberal" and a member of the "PC Brigade".


  • #60
    WilyCoyote
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    I just hope the rapist isn't also a masochist. That would be the ultimate insult.


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  • #61
    davycc
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    looking_around wrote: »
    Nobody can say how they'd actually react until in that situation, and hopefully, nobody here will ever have to be in such a situation.

    But surely losing control and beating the guy in front of child, is not in the best interests of the child.
    It's possible to restrain someone without braking bones and turning into a maniac yourself.

    And no I'm not defending the child molester. But 2 wrongs don't make a right. I haven't read the link but unless the molester attacked back and the it became more of self-defence. I don't think the father was very restrained.

    he was saving his son as he caught the pedo red handed, the father did nothing wrong here bar stopping an evil crime being commited .. the pedo is lucky to be alive as I believe the father would have been well within his rights to shoot him dead instead of punching and kicking him


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