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Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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  • #1022
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    end of the road wrote: »
    only hamas? israel always tell the truth?

    Did anyone say that? The poster implied that Israelies lie, without mentioning the possibility that Hamas and Palestinians may also lie. Just adding a bit of balance.


  • #1023
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    end of the road wrote: »
    yes, they love to trot out that excuse, of course the amount of weaponry and size of military, and enough people to take up the fight isn't enough, but a bit of land belonging to another country is going to stop the destruction of israel, i don't know whether thats laughable, ridiculous, or just pathetic, i pick laughable

    Could you read some military history before you make comments about military matters please?
    The West bank prevents Israel from being cut in two by a quick military thrust and also provides a natural defensive line along the Jordan. As long as Israel feel threatened, and launching rockets at them is not likely to ease their fears, they will continue to occupy the West Bank and the longer they are there the less likely they are to ever leave.
    This is what we know as 'reality'.


  • #1024
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    Had Hamas not constantly needled and provoked Israel with their rocket attacks, this would not started.

    if israel didn't steal these peoples homes and land, and treated them like human beings from the start, the situation where rocket fire would have came to be, may not have existed.
    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    The blood is squarely on the hands of Hamas and those that elect and support Hamas.

    no, the blood is squarely on both sides, not those who elect anyone

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #1025
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    Yeah, awful. Shelling a beach with military ordnance is much better than making a comment on a discussion forum. You appear to be vehemently pro-Israel, regardless of what is occurring. Why is that?

    I don't know, perhaps because I believe they are right in this situation.

    The can't let Hamas continue to constantly send rockets into Israel. Israel don't want this, Hamas have brought it on themselves and their people by their actions.


  • #1026
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    Do you consider the death of the innocent Israeli civilian to have been murder?

    the killing of civilians on both sides is murder

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • #1027
    poppyvally
    Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭poppyvally


    The aim of all Islamic terrorists is to wipe Israel of the face of the Earth. If that happens & the Isis, boka Haram, Al Queda etc take over..what then? World domination, Sharia law. Anyone for a beheading today?& a good kicking for them annoying women


  • #1028
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    end of the road wrote: »
    if israel didn't steal these peoples homes land, and treated them like human beings from the start, the situation where rocket fire would have came to be, may not have existed.



    no, the blood is squarely on both sides, not those who elect anyone

    They are where they are. The current situation is directly attributable to the actions of Hamas.

    No rockets no retaliation. Simples.


  • #1029
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    end of the road wrote: »
    the killing of civilians on both sides is murder

    Glad to see you post that. And what about either side sending guided or unguided rockets across the border?


  • #1030
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I assume you can enlighten us?

    Nope, couldn't be bothered when google is but a click away.

    The problem with these discussions (or one of the problems) is that people (like you) tend to rush in with ill researched knee jerk reactions and post up silliness which does neither side justice.

    Google and a little time are your friends.


  • #1031
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    Did anyone say that?

    yes, you implied it
    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    The poster implied that Israelies lie, without mentioning the possibility that Hamas and Palestinians may also lie.

    no he didn't
    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    Just adding a bit of balance.

    no, your not, your just excusing israels actions no matter what, and you more or less have said israel doesn't lie, all to fit your agenda

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • #1032
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    tayto lover wrote: »
    That's a very sick view to hold. "He made me do it". " If she didn't dress like that she wouldn't have been raped".

    Jesus, you really are stretching credibility there.

    Not even sure where to start with that one, but I suggest you seek professional help to work through your attitudes to women. For your sake, please do, this is not healthy for you.


  • #1033
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    end of the road wrote: »
    yes, you implied it



    no he didn't



    no, your not, your just excusing israels actions no matter what, and you more or less have said israel doesn't lie, all to fit your agenda

    All of this is rubbish. Not a word of truth, which in a way is admirable, that you could get it so wrong. You couldn't have done worse had you been trying. Quite an achievement. Kudos. :)


  • #1034
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    obplayer wrote: »
    The West bank prevents Israel from being cut in two by a quick military thrust and also provides a natural defensive line along the Jordan.

    yes, more territory for the state, that is all.
    obplayer wrote: »
    As long as Israel feel threatened, and launching rockets at them is not likely to ease their fears, they will continue to occupy the West Bank and the longer they are there the less likely they are to ever leave.

    they don't feel threatened, its all an excuse for their war machine, and to get more territory, just like 1967, you are definitely right when you say the longer they are there the less likely they are to ever leave, thats the whole point, they want that territory, and they will do whatever to get it. mind you, if they get on the wrong side of the wrong country they will be finished, america isn't always going to save them, americas patients will run out eventually.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #1035
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Here's my problem with the pro Israeli side. They talk about dead children with as much compassion as someone would talk about a dead rat. They have a sick attitude that says "oh well that wouldn't have happened if someone else had voted for someone different". Bearing in mind that the children who died had no idea of the current conflict and were certainly too young to vote.

    I disagree with Israel but when young Israeli children die I would certainly be more human than to say "Ah well if the Israelis didn't do X, Y and Z those children would be alive. That's why I have a problem with some posters. It's not their support of Israel it's their complete empathic and pathological view of the casualties. Most people on this thread just want peace and would love for both peoples to live together but some (those with "ah well dead kids approach" don't care about peace. They just seem to want punishment.


  • #1036
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    tayto lover wrote: »
    That's a very sick view to hold. "He made me do it". " If she didn't dress like that she wouldn't have been raped".

    No, it's more like 'if she hadn't kept throwing bricks at me I wouldn't have had to restrain her".


  • #1037
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: »
    Nope, couldn't be bothered when google is but a click away.

    The problem with these discussions (or one of the problems) is that people (like you) tend to rush in with ill researched knee jerk reactions and post up silliness which does neither side justice.

    Google and a little time are your friends.

    I know the history of the area well enough thanks. I was just calling your bluff on it and was proved right.


  • #1038
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    I don't know, perhaps because I believe they are right in this situation.

    The can't let Hamas continue to constantly send rockets into Israel. Israel don't want this, Hamas have brought it on themselves and their people by their actions.
    and no better way to do that then murdering children, shur they deserve it, they brought it on themselves, discusting

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #1039
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Here's my problem with the pro Israeli side. They talk about dead children with as much compassion as someone would talk about a dead rat. They have a sick attitude that says "oh well that wouldn't have happened if someone else had voted for someone different". Bearing in mind that the children who died had no idea of the current conflict and were certainly too young to vote.

    I disagree with Israel but when young Israeli children die I would certainly be more human than to say "Ah well if they Israelis didn't do X, Y and Z those children would be alive. That's why I have a problem with some posters. It's not their support of Israel it's their complete empathic and pathological view of the casualties. Most people on this thread just want peace and would love for both peoples to live together but some (those with "ah well dead kids approach" don't care about peace. They just seem to want punishment.

    Why can't we all just get along?


  • #1040
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    "PIRA launch sustained bombing campaign in Mainland Britain, British retaliate by shelling Killiney beach and launching a ground offensive using tanks, bulldozers and armoured personnell carriers. Dozens of civilian casualties amongst the Irish population".


    Sounds mad, doesn't it? yeah, pretty much..


  • #1041
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    "PIRA launch sustained bombing campaign in Mainland Britain, British retaliate by shelling Killiney beach and launching a ground offensive using tanks, bulldozers and armoured personnell carriers. Dozens of civilian casualties amongst the Irish population".


    Sounds mad, doesn't it? yeah, pretty much..

    So are 'PIRA' in power in Ireland in this scenario? Is it a 'state sanctioned' bombing campaign?


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  • #1042
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    Why can't we all just get along?

    The most reasonable statement I've read in this thread, but doubt it's gonna happen


  • #1043
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    I don't know, perhaps because I believe they are right in this situation.

    The can't let Hamas continue to constantly send rockets into Israel. Israel don't want this, Hamas have brought it on themselves and their people by their actions.

    Any reason why Hamas don't like them in the first place?


  • #1044
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    They are where they are. The current situation is directly attributable to the actions of Hamas.

    wrong again, hamas came into being via the miss treatment of the palestinian people and the apartite system in which they live.
    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    No rockets no retaliation. Simples.

    not simples at all, stop excusing the murder of women and children

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #1045
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    So are 'PIRA' in power in Ireland in this scenario? Is it a 'state sanctioned' bombing campaign?

    Dunno, depends how you view Haugheys role in the arms smuggling tbh..


  • #1046
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    end of the road wrote: »
    and no better way to do that then murdering children, shur they deserve it, they brought it on themselves, discusting

    As I said, unfortunate collateral damage. I'm happy to agree that both sides to the conflict are equally responsible for all of the deaths that have occurred.


  • #1047
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: »
    Nope, couldn't be bothered when google is but a click away.

    The problem with these discussions (or one of the problems) is that people (like you) tend to rush in with ill researched knee jerk reactions and post up silliness which does neither side justice.

    Google and a little time are your friends.

    You're bluffing on this. You haven't a clue outside of the last two decades. If you had you would know that HAMAS was encouraged by the Israeli state at the expense of more moderate groups.


  • #1048
    obplayer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    vicwatson wrote: »
    The most reasonable statement I've read in this thread, but doubt it's gonna happen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4lUNaceWw


  • #1049
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Guys apparently we are all ill researched. I actually know the history quite well and if you don't I suggest you read up on it. You won't find anything to counter the view that the Israeli state fuelled HAMAS contrary to keyboard warriors's views. I support a Israeli state but not how they're going about it now.


  • #1050
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    Any reason why Hamas don't like them in the first place?

    None that I'm aware of. :)


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  • #1051
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Arthur Beesley wrote: »
    As I said, unfortunate collateral damage. I'm happy to agree that both sides to the conflict are equally responsible for all of the deaths that have occurred.
    lets see, rockets that have little to no effect sadly kill one person, jets and shells that have killed a couple of hundred, which one has the most blood on their hands? who has killed the most people? yes, you guessed it, the people with the jets and shells, but of course they have made no effort to avoid civilian deaths, because they know the people they are shelling and bombing can't go anywhere to escape

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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