end of the road wrote: » only hamas? israel always tell the truth?
end of the road wrote: » yes, they love to trot out that excuse, of course the amount of weaponry and size of military, and enough people to take up the fight isn't enough, but a bit of land belonging to another country is going to stop the destruction of israel, i don't know whether thats laughable, ridiculous, or just pathetic, i pick laughable
Arthur Beesley wrote: » Had Hamas not constantly needled and provoked Israel with their rocket attacks, this would not started.
Arthur Beesley wrote: » The blood is squarely on the hands of Hamas and those that elect and support Hamas.
Tail Docker wrote: » Yeah, awful. Shelling a beach with military ordnance is much better than making a comment on a discussion forum. You appear to be vehemently pro-Israel, regardless of what is occurring. Why is that?
Arthur Beesley wrote: » Do you consider the death of the innocent Israeli civilian to have been murder?
end of the road wrote: » if israel didn't steal these peoples homes land, and treated them like human beings from the start, the situation where rocket fire would have came to be, may not have existed. no, the blood is squarely on both sides, not those who elect anyone
end of the road wrote: » the killing of civilians on both sides is murder
steddyeddy wrote: » I assume you can enlighten us?
Arthur Beesley wrote: » Did anyone say that?
Arthur Beesley wrote: » The poster implied that Israelies lie, without mentioning the possibility that Hamas and Palestinians may also lie.
Arthur Beesley wrote: » Just adding a bit of balance.
tayto lover wrote: » That's a very sick view to hold. "He made me do it". " If she didn't dress like that she wouldn't have been raped".
end of the road wrote: » yes, you implied it no he didn't no, your not, your just excusing israels actions no matter what, and you more or less have said israel doesn't lie, all to fit your agenda
obplayer wrote: » The West bank prevents Israel from being cut in two by a quick military thrust and also provides a natural defensive line along the Jordan.
obplayer wrote: » As long as Israel feel threatened, and launching rockets at them is not likely to ease their fears, they will continue to occupy the West Bank and the longer they are there the less likely they are to ever leave.
Guillermo Faithful Tractor wrote: » Nope, couldn't be bothered when google is but a click away. The problem with these discussions (or one of the problems) is that people (like you) tend to rush in with ill researched knee jerk reactions and post up silliness which does neither side justice. Google and a little time are your friends.
Arthur Beesley wrote: » I don't know, perhaps because I believe they are right in this situation. The can't let Hamas continue to constantly send rockets into Israel. Israel don't want this, Hamas have brought it on themselves and their people by their actions.
steddyeddy wrote: » Here's my problem with the pro Israeli side. They talk about dead children with as much compassion as someone would talk about a dead rat. They have a sick attitude that says "oh well that wouldn't have happened if someone else had voted for someone different". Bearing in mind that the children who died had no idea of the current conflict and were certainly too young to vote. I disagree with Israel but when young Israeli children die I would certainly be more human than to say "Ah well if they Israelis didn't do X, Y and Z those children would be alive. That's why I have a problem with some posters. It's not their support of Israel it's their complete empathic and pathological view of the casualties. Most people on this thread just want peace and would love for both peoples to live together but some (those with "ah well dead kids approach" don't care about peace. They just seem to want punishment.
Tail Docker wrote: » "PIRA launch sustained bombing campaign in Mainland Britain, British retaliate by shelling Killiney beach and launching a ground offensive using tanks, bulldozers and armoured personnell carriers. Dozens of civilian casualties amongst the Irish population". Sounds mad, doesn't it? yeah, pretty much..
Arthur Beesley wrote: » Why can't we all just get along?
Arthur Beesley wrote: » They are where they are. The current situation is directly attributable to the actions of Hamas.
Arthur Beesley wrote: » No rockets no retaliation. Simples.
Arthur Beesley wrote: » So are 'PIRA' in power in Ireland in this scenario? Is it a 'state sanctioned' bombing campaign?
end of the road wrote: » and no better way to do that then murdering children, shur they deserve it, they brought it on themselves, discusting
vicwatson wrote: » The most reasonable statement I've read in this thread, but doubt it's gonna happen
Tail Docker wrote: » Any reason why Hamas don't like them in the first place?
Arthur Beesley wrote: » As I said, unfortunate collateral damage. I'm happy to agree that both sides to the conflict are equally responsible for all of the deaths that have occurred.
