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Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

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  • #3992
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Just for starters, making a decision based on forged planning objections,
    No they didn't, they brought them to the attention of the Gardai, which is all they could do. If you have proof that they didn't bring them to the attention of the garda then please post it or stop using it as 'evidence' of your claims.
    while agreeing with the promoter during their meetings that he had met all their requirements, and giving no indication whatsoever there was any problem, or any changes that should be made.

    You can also desist from this accusation as we have no proof either way that this was the case.
    I am sure when they come in front of the Dail committee that the DCC will prove it though.


  • #3993
    Piliger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/tanaiste-joan-burton-theres-a-still-a-window-of-opportunity-to-get-garth-brooks-concerts-over-the-line-30426937.html#comments

    What a shower of ejits protesting over a concert :mad:

    One could easily say the same or more about someone who is so weak and so intolerant that they cannot abide the idea of other people who actually care about something enough to stand up for it.


  • #3994
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Muise... wrote: »
    They did not know about the forgeries until they sent receipts to people who then said they had not signed submissions; this did not cancel the non-forged submissions.

    There is no proof that the promoter was told any such thing, and one of the requirements is a public consultation process which neither the promoter nor DCC can control.

    Oh but there is . . .

    I'd believe aiken over the already proven corrupt liars that are DCC anyday.

    "He has told Cork's Red FM that he was "shafted" by Dublin City Council.
    He said: "It was never flagged to me that anybody said 'you have got a serious problem here', and I stand over that.
    "I still think I was shafted by Dublin City Council. I had the licence application in 14 weeks before."
    The promoter said he was very careful with the application.
    He said: "We went through it meticulously, every detail that they wanted was there.
    "If they had known that (there were problems with the application), they could have turned round and said 'this ain't gonna fly', and for them to claim that they did tell me that is ludicrous.
    "I would never have run with it then."

    breakingnews.ie


  • #3995
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    I'll gladly spend my money abroad now instead thanks . . .

    Wow, what a threat...take it out on the whole country why don't you? The sillyness indicator has just burst.


  • #3996
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Wow, what a threat...take it out on the whole country why don't you? The sillyness indicator has just burst.

    As my money is no good or wanted in Dublin, then it doesn't leave me with much choice


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  • #3997
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Oh but there is . . .

    I'd believe aiken over the already proven corrupt liars that are DCC anyday.

    "He has told Cork's Red FM that he was "shafted" by Dublin City Council.
    He said: "It was never flagged to me that anybody said 'you have got a serious problem here', and I stand over that.
    "I still think I was shafted by Dublin City Council. I had the licence application in 14 weeks before."
    The promoter said he was very careful with the application.
    He said: "We went through it meticulously, every detail that they wanted was there.
    "If they had known that (there were problems with the application), they could have turned round and said 'this ain't gonna fly', and for them to claim that they did tell me that is ludicrous.
    "I would never have run with it then."

    breakingnews.ie

    Your belief does not prove anything. (Except for your unwillingness to accept facts.)

    As for Aiken, to quote Mandy Rice Davies, "he would say that, wouldn't he?"


  • #3998
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    As my money is no good or wanted in Dublin, then yes


    would you not head West, we in rural Ireland really need the money.


  • #3999
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    I'll gladly spend my money abroad now instead thanks . . .

    Tbh, it would probably benefit you greatly.


  • #4000
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    As my money is no good or wanted in Dublin, then it doesn't leave me with much choice

    If you have a valid and legal ticket, the only person stopping you spending your money is Brooks.


  • #4001
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Muise... wrote: »
    Your belief does not prove anything. (Except for your unwillingness to accept facts.)

    As for Aiken, to quote Mandy Rice Davies, "he would say that, wouldn't he?"

    The conclusions of the planning tribunal are not a belief.

    Whereas your going to have to prove Aiken is lying.


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  • #4002
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    If you have a valid and legal ticket, the only person stopping you spending your money is Brooks.

    As I'm now going to enjoy spending my money seeing him a country with a honest planning process instead, hardly.


  • #4003
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    The conclusions of the planning tribunal are not a belief.

    Whereas your going to have to prove Aiken is lying.

    He is lying, that promoting 5 nights at Croke Park after they had used up their allocated 3 nights, was going to be plain sailing. The evidence that they where problematic from the get go is all there.


  • #4004
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    The conclusions of the planning tribunal are not a belief.

    Whereas your going to have to prove Aiken is lying.

    Do you really not understand that the Planning Tribunal could not have found DCC corrupt in this case as it was held in the past? Are you arguing that we should bend time and space as well as planning regulations to suit a singer who is refusing to compromise?

    And actually Aiken will have to prove that the DCC assured him his application was going to be successful.


  • #4005
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    He is lying, that promoting 5 nights at Croke Park after they had used up their allocated 3 nights, was going to be plain sailing. The evidence that they where problematic from the get go is all there.

    As your defaming Aiken here, I'm sure his solicitors would be interested in this post.

    Me, I prefer to rely on the already proven conclusions of the planning tribunal.


  • #4006
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Muise... wrote: »
    Do you really not understand that the Planning Tribunal could not have found DCC corrupt in this case as it was held in the past? Are you arguing that we should bend time and space as well as planning regulations to suit a singer who is refusing to compromise?

    And actually Aiken will have to prove that the DCC assured him his application was going to be successful.

    DCC has a proven track record of telling lies and being dishonest. Aiken has not and is entitled to his good name.


  • #4007
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    As I'm now going to enjoy spending my money seeing him a county with a honest planning process instead, hardly.

    Oh, must have missed that announcement, have they moved the gigs to rural Ireland?


  • #4008
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    As I'm now going to enjoy spending my money seeing him a county with a honest planning process instead, hardly.

    Won't be 'county Dublin' though at this stage.


  • #4009
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    muddypaws wrote: »
    Oh, must have missed that announcement, have they moved the gigs to rural Ireland?

    Then you also missed the typo


  • #4010
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    As your defaming Aiken here, I'm sure his solicitors would be interested in this post.

    Me, I prefer to rely on the already proven conclusions of the planning tribunal.

    Where is the defamation?


  • #4011
    Jamsiek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    there's a lot of new Garth Brooks fans out there since he stood up to the political scum of Ireland.

    I highly doubt that.
    Even former fans are sick to the teeth of him at this stage.
    If anything, he lost fans over this


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  • #4012
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Where is the defamation?

    You just posted above that Aiken is lying. Calling someone a liar in public without proof is defaming their character, you might want to withdraw it before you get yourself and boards.ie in expensive water.


  • #4013
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    DCC has a proven track record of telling lies and being dishonest. Aiken has not and is entitled to his good name.

    Right, let's never allow the standard of public service in Ireland to improve- let's insist they remain dishonest so we can have a good old pointless complaint whenever they do something we don't like.


  • #4014
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    Then you also missed the typo

    No, I didn't, but I forgave you that one, as you're under a lot of stress at the moment.


  • #4015
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    You just posted above that Aiken is lying. Calling someone a liar is defaming their character, you might want to withdraw it before you get yourself and boards.ie in expensive water.

    He said he thought the process would be plain sailing...he is lying about that because the controversy was large and very vocal from the get go.

    Solicitors, please PM me, I am more than willing to prove that the internet was awash with debate about this from the start and Aiken and Croke Park where well aware of residents objections and indications that they where prepared to go to court.


  • #4016
    Jamsiek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Jim Rockford wrote: »
    If it was 5 nights of stabbings and/or slane girls there would be no problem.

    Comedy gold


  • #4017
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Jamsiek wrote: »
    Comedy gold

    if you find the truth funny


  • #4018
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #4019
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,662 ✭✭✭secman


    Aiken is spoofer and he got his cummuppence, actually Jim is that you..... Peter Aiken.
    Anyway Jim, Aiken is paddling up a creek without an oar, the planning system is working fine since they took political interference out of the equation. And by ths looks of it, his buddy Brooks ain't going to bail him out. Just delaying the inevitable, go and tell TM to start the refund process and above all LEARN a lesson, work with the system, engage all parties.No cowboy tactics.


  • #4020
    Jim Rockford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 285 ✭✭Jim Rockford


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    He said he thought the process would be plain sailing...he is lying about that because the controversy was large and very vocal from the get go.

    Solicitors, please PM me, I am more than willing to prove that the internet was awash with debate about this from the start and Aiken and Croke Park where well aware of residents objections and indications that they where prepared to go to court.

    You might be happy to get yourself involved in a defamation case, I don't think boards will be backing you or facilitating it.


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  • #4021
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    I just wish Jim would go and answer his phone


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