Garth Brooks concerts cancelled - **READ FIRST POST FOR MOD NOTES**

The biggest news of the day is that all five Garth Brooks concerts have been cancelled.

The original thread is nothing short of a joke right now, so let's start afresh.

• Have your say about all those involved in the event without resorting to vicious or bilious comments.
• Do not discuss banned posters or get personal with others on the thread.
• Keep the abuse, trolling, baiting, and sniping out of it.
• Keep it civil.

TL;DR - don't be a dick

We'll update the OP with info about ticket refunds etc as it becomes available.

Terrontress

From an economic point, it's a disaster.

AnonoBoy

Glad to see this still dominates the news. Looking forward to another week of watching that Croke Park gig footage over and over again on News Now.

4zn76tysfajdxp

This is the most stupid large news story I can remember.

WilyCoyote

Nobody is dead. This too will pass.

RayM

What's more embarrassing for 'Brand Ireland™' - the concerts being cancelled or the fact that 400,000 Irish people bought tickets to see Garth Brooks in the first place?

Gongoozler

Have to say I'm glad to see someone in this country sticking to their guns, and procedure. Fair play to Dublin City council. We need more people with a back bone.

the_monkey

JupiterKid

There really are more important things going on than a few cancelled gigs at Croke Park.

GLaDOS

I hope we get an 'I, Keano' style re-enactment of the whole journey, so I can re-live this rollercoaster of emotion again.

Degag

Feel sorry for all the people who were looking forward to this tbh.

cherryghost

Financial impact is huge on hoteliers and such I can imagine.

dgt

What'll they do with all those concert shirts in Dunnes Stores now....?

cnoc

The GAA (Croke Park) got greedy, hence the reason for the final outcome.

Reformed Character

RTE reporting that DCC were willing to allow 4 concerts in discussions with Aiken before licence decision was announced but Brooks wouldn't budge, told DCC 5 or nothing, so they stuck with 3.
Gives the lie to Mulvey's claim that Brooks was only speaking in the heat of the moment when he made his public 5 or nothing ultimatum on Thursday.
Brooks looking more and more like a greedy bully and Mulvey like an Aiken/GAA puppet.

Sulla Felix

Terrontress wrote: »

From an economic point, it's a disaster.

Ah, have to love a bit of hyperbole. Most of the attendees would have been from Ireland and the money they would have spent on hotels and booze will now be spent... well, probably hotels and booze, albeit in a less consolidated manner. The small percentage of visitors who were coming from abroad specifically for this are few when taken as a proportion of total tourist numbers.

rockbeast

Now which will be the first Dublin pub/venue to stick on a Garth Brooks Tribute act for 5 nights - they'll clèan up

PizzamanIRL

Bad because of money reasons but other than that it's a minor bump. It's a man standing on a stage singing. People will get over it. I'd say most of the Croke Park residents had tickets themselves.

Also, at the end of the day there was a rule initially broken to allow the 5 concerts so it's a bit of justice and an up yours.

Terrontress

JupiterKid wrote: »

There really are more important things going on than a few cancelled gigs at Croke Park.

Yeah, and people with the weight of the world on their shoulders might be able to escape their personal tragedies by going on a special night out.

Reformed Character

cherryghost wrote: »

Financial impact is huge on hoteliers and such I can imagine.

Yup, they jacked up their prices by up to 500% , now they will have to settle for normal rates, my heart bleeds for them.
Same with the publicans and restaurants who were set to profiteer with rip off price increases.

Reformed Character

Reformed Character wrote: »

Brooks looking more and more like a greedy bully and Mulvey like an Aiken/GAA puppet.

Mod

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Terrontress

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Ah, have to love a bit of hyperbole. Most of the attendees would have been from Ireland and the money they would have spent on hotels and booze will now be spent... well, probably hotels and booze, albeit in a less consolidated manner. The small percentage of visitors who were coming from abroad specifically for this are few when taken as a proportion of total tourist numbers.

No, it will stay in their bank accounts and not pay wages, get taxed, keep the wheels moving.

fullstop

cnoc wrote: »

The GAA (Croke Park) Aiken got greedy, hence the reason for the final outcome.

FYP

My name is URL

cherryghost wrote: »

Financial impact is huge on hoteliers and such I can imagine.

Not even just that. How many tickets were sold to people outside of Ireland? 10% probably isn't a wild estimate.

That's 40,000 people who would have spent a few days here before/after the concert, and who will likely be put off from travelling to Ireland in future as a result of it all. The long term effect of this is just as bad as any short term effect.

Hande hoche!

It provides plenty of fodder for smug Facebook posts.

Sulla Felix

Terrontress wrote: »

No, it will stay in their bank accounts and not pay wages, get taxed, keep the wheels moving.

No, it'll get spent on other things. That's what happens with discretionary earnings.

anncoates

Sorry for the people that will miss the concert but the GAA and promoters broke their agreement, allowed the relationship with residents to become poisonous and tried to railroad the DCC into sanctioning 5 concerts over the agreed number for the year. They were lucky to get 3 extra nights licensed and GB should have went with that.

Plus the widespread pressure - tantamount to bullying - of a local authority by the media, business interests and entertainment figures has been quite shameful.

steddyeddy

Did anyone think it bad that RTE named the resident that filed the court injunction?

cnoc

:D

fullstop wrote: »

FYP

BiffoGooner

Fair to say it's a fairly bad day in terms of what it would have done for the country in terms of economy, tourism and the general prestige and size of the event.

Honestly don't understand people trying to say that Brooks is greedy etc. He's doing no gigs, therefore he's not making a cent and most likely losing millions given the stage setup already paid for and shipped, lighting and sound staff employed and who knows what else.

Bad decision on behalf of the council as I highly doubt they wanted all the gigs to be cancelled, but should have realised that was a possibility if they refused planning for the 2.

Without disrespecting the rights of the residents, I think the best outcome on this would have been to let these gigs go ahead and then implement a stricter planning regime for future gigs at Croker, with all involved well aware of the limitations in place, as they clearly weren't this time around.

Why were the DCC at one point willing to allow 4 gigs but not 5? Would one night less make much of a difference to the residents? Sillyness.

Huge loss for the country.

Rasheed

steddyeddy wrote: »

Did anyone think it bad that RTE named the resident that filed the court injunction?

Would this not be public anyway?

Jester252

My name is URL wrote: »

Not even just that. How many tickets were sold to people outside of Ireland? 10% probably isn't a wild estimate.

That's 40,000 people who would have spent a few days here before/after the concert, and who will likely be put off from travelling to Ireland in future as a result of it all. The long term effect of this is just as bad as any short term effect.

I heard the number of outside ticket s to be 70'000 for the frist two canceled concerts.

I have been living under a rock what is this all about ?

major bill

Could have done with some friends in high places

Tarzana

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

I'd say most of the Croke Park residents had tickets themselves.

What would make you think that?

RayM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Did anyone think it bad that RTE named the resident that filed the court injunction?

They can probably expect to receive a stetson-shaped poo through their letterbox.

WilyCoyote

steddyeddy wrote: »

Did anyone think it bad that RTE named the resident that filed the court injunction?

His name is up on the BBC website for 24 hours

steddyeddy

Rasheed wrote: »

Would this not be public anyway?

Maybe I haven't a clue about law. Just thought he might get hate mail ect.

AnonoBoy

Rasheed wrote: »

Would this not be public anyway?

steddyeddy wrote: »

Maybe I haven't a clue about law. Just thought he might get hate mail ect.

It would be public information. RTE aren't releasing anything that people couldn't have found out themselves.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

DCC now admit they secretly offered to licence 4 of the concerts but if Brooks didn't agree to that, they would only offer 3.

On what planet does that make sense. Either licence the four publicly or don't.

GAA statement:

The GAA statement in full:

“The GAA and Croke Park Stadium note with much regret the confirmation that none of the Garth Brooks concerts scheduled for later this month will now take place.

“The GAA shares the intense disappointment of the 400,000 people who have purchased tickets.

“Croke Park Stadium has worked closely with Aiken Promotions in its efforts to stage a unique series of concerts which would have represented an exciting national event and a joyful summer celebration.

“From the outset Croke Park Stadium, as it does with the planning of all events staged in Croke Park, and with a view to avoiding surprise late difficulties, engaged fully with Dublin City Council officials and addressed comprehensively every issue presented during this planning process. At no stage were we given any indication that a licence was likely to be refused for any of the five concerts.

“The GAA has made clear its acceptance of mediator Kieran Mulvey’s report on the long-term management of concerts and special events in Croke Park.

“We wish to acknowledge Mr Mulvey’s exceptional efforts over the past few days to resolve the issues raised by the refusal of a licence for the fourth and fifth concerts.

“The GAA is very encouraged by the emergence in recent days of groups of residents in the Croke Park area who share our wish for a positive continuing engagement with the Croke Park Stadium; we look forward to working with them on the recommendations of the Mulvey Report.”

Note the part in bold which comepletly flies in the face of what the DCC have stated publicly.

Gongoozler

steddyeddy wrote: »

Did anyone think it bad that RTE named the resident that filed the court injunction?

It's publicly available information, but yeah, most people wouldn't know the name of the person unless they knew they could find the details for themselves, so it does seem bad.

Jester252

Wouldn't be surprised if aiken went after the GAA

Rasheed

steddyeddy wrote: »

Maybe I haven't a clue about law. Just thought he might get hate mail ect.

I haven't a clue either s! I agree with you though, if his name wasn't going on public record, it's bad form to release it. They'll be a few messers looking for a scapegoat and that poor man might be their target.

MRnotlob606

I'm no Garth Brooks fan but I feel sorry for the fans, some of them I know are getting in on in years and might never see him in concert.

steddyeddy

AnonoBoy wrote: »

It would be public information. RTE aren't releasing anything that people couldn't have found out themselves.

I'm not blaming RTE I was just surprised.

Sulla Felix

BiffoGooner wrote: »

Fair to say it's a fairly bad day in terms of what it would have done for the country in terms of economy, tourism and the general prestige and size of the event.

Honestly don't understand people trying to say that Brooks is greedy etc. He's doing no gigs, therefore he's not making a cent and most likely losing millions given the stage setup already paid for and shipped, lighting and sound staff employed and who knows what else.

That's not really how these things work, especially with a massive (:pac:) artist like Brooks. At worst he'll come out having lost nothing, but it's very possible there's a payday due him from the contract.

Harry Palmr

Raegan Shrilling Miser wrote: »

This is the most stupid large news story I can remember.

Not around for the iodine tables then?

Tarzana

anncoates wrote: »

Plus the widespread pressure - tantamount to bullying - of a local authority by the media, business interests and entertainment figures has been quite shameful.

I couldn't believe the bias displayed by RTÉ News the day it was announced that 2 concerts had their licences rejected. All, "Isn't it terrible, Joe" and NO opposing viewpoint whatsoever. Shocking.

Menas

Roll on the court cases.

Who will pay ticketmaster for the effort they put in to selling and refunding?
Who will pay for the pre production work already done?
Who will pay for Jim's plane ticket to america this morning?
Who will pay for the warehouse full of pink plastic stetsons?

WilyCoyote

Jester252 wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised if aiken went after the GAA

Aiken goes after Stock but before Waterman

Tipsy McSwagger

The coverage this is getting on RTE news is disgraceful.

Edit - It's hilarious actually