Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

smurgen · 12-07-2014 07:14PM

I don't know what the answer is but if I was Israeli I'd be deeply ashamed of my military and government and concerned because theyre making the entire state look unstable and aggressive on the world stage.I never have not will I step foot in that country.

urabell · 12-07-2014 07:21PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

It wasn't a great turn out. Maybe a 1000 People, most of the usual suspects that turn up for every protest.
Why didn't you make it to the embassy. Too busy going for a Latte!

While visiting relatives in Bray a while ago I came across a protest for Palestine on the steps of the Royal hotel, it was made up of a few council estate washouts loosely associated with Sinn Fein who I knew from growing up, half hoping some Israelis might show up for a fight and a group lead by an independent councillor with poor hygene, marijuana and tie dyed shirts. The very sight of the spectacle made me want to join the IDF.

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 07:29PM

urabell wrote: »

While visiting relatives in Bray a while ago I came across a protest for Palestine on the steps of the Royal hotel, it was made up of a few council estate washouts loosely associated with Sinn Fein who I knew from growing up, half hoping some Israelis might show up for a fight and a group lead by an independent councillor with poor hygene, marijuana and tie dyed shirts. The very sight of the spectacle made me want to join the IDF.

so , if they had come from a nice middle class estate and were wearing suits , had impeccable hygiene, you would have supported their cause ? you might have joined Hammas instead ?

why bother posting something as pointless as your post ? really baffling stuff

smurgen · 12-07-2014 07:32PM

urabell wrote: »

While visiting relatives in Bray a while ago I came across a protest for Palestine on the steps of the Royal hotel, it was made up of a few council estate washouts loosely associated with Sinn Fein who I knew from growing up, half hoping some Israelis might show up for a fight and a group lead by an independent councillor with poor hygene, marijuana and tie dyed shirts. The very sight of the spectacle made me want to join the IDF.

So a bunch of people you dont like went protesting to voice there disgust at the murder of innocent individuals and suppression of human rights and in turn you want to join the murderers?you know what? You should joking the off,you sound well suited to one another

wazky · 12-07-2014 07:33PM

smurgen wrote: »

So a bunch of people you dont like went protesting to voice there disgust at the murder of innocent individuals and suppression of human rights and in turn you want to join the murderers?

Says more about the poster than the protesters really.

urabell · 12-07-2014 07:39PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

so , if they had come from a nice middle class estate and were wearing suits , had impeccable hygiene, you would have supported their cause ? you might have joined Hammas instead ?

why bother posting something as pointless as your post ? really baffling stuff

If people like that supported the cause it might suggest it was a cause worth supporting, they don't, it isn't.

smurgen wrote: »

So a bunch of people you dont like went protesting to voice there disgust at the murder of innocent individuals and suppression of human rights and in turn you want to join the murderers?you know what? You should joking the off,you sound well suited to one another

There's deaths on both sides, picking a side based on who's worse at doing the killing is a little silly. Don't be silly.

mickydoomsux · 12-07-2014 07:42PM

urabell wrote: »

While visiting relatives in Bray a while ago I came across a protest for Palestine on the steps of the Royal hotel, it was made up of a few council estate washouts loosely associated with Sinn Fein who I knew from growing up, half hoping some Israelis might show up for a fight and a group lead by an independent councillor with poor hygene, marijuana and tie dyed shirts. The very sight of the spectacle made me want to join the IDF.

I'll have you know that these very same people took down Joey Kony, water charges and the 1%.

Oh.... wait.

Protests are stupid and they do absolutely zero because in 99.9% of situations the people who are being protested against give absolutely zero ****s about what you think and if they even paid attention to you it would be to crack their hole laughing at you. It's yelling in an empty room.

But i'm sure they make some people feel like they've made a difference and it makes it easier for them to sleep at night.

ekimiam · 12-07-2014 07:54PM

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

galwayrush · 12-07-2014 07:58PM

Hamas are firing rockets at Tel Aviv at the moment, are they that brain dead, or do they want the max possible Palestine civilian ( human shields) deaths to garnish international sympathy?

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 07:58PM

urabell wrote: »

If people like that supported the cause it might suggest it was a cause worth supporting, they don't, it isn't.

There's deaths on both sides, picking a side based on who's worse at doing the killing is a little silly. Don't be silly.

but becasue they were in your eyes working class from poor estates , if they are championing a cause its not worth supporting ???

really - you need your head examined - im really hoping your just a piss poor idiot troll - rather than ACTUALLY having the beliefs you hold.

im actually aghast with astonishment by your posts

...__... · 12-07-2014 08:00PM

I take no joy in hearing a crowd call for the destruction of Israel which is what they mean when they say from the river to the sea Palestine will be free.
The Eygptians used to say that in 1966 one year later they nearly tried.
Didnt end very well for them and led to this current situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvDko8WFWOM

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bnt · 12-07-2014 08:02PM

There's a reason why there are always civilians where the Hamas rockets are stashed. I have two words for the OP to Google: "human shield". :mad:

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 08:03PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I'll have you know that these very same people took down Joey Kony, water charges and the 1%.

Oh.... wait.

Protests are stupid and they do absolutely zero because in 99.9% of situations the people who are being protested against give absolutely zero ****s about what you think and if they even paid attention to you it would be to crack their hole laughing at you. It's yelling in an empty room.

But i'm sure they make some people feel like they've made a difference and it makes it easier for them to sleep at night.

yea , i think you have missed some little protests that did work ,

Derry - The civil rights march
Paris - 1960's student marches
London - poll tax protests
USA - civil rights marches in the 60's
Eastern europe , in the 80's , 90's and recently in Ukraine

i could go on and on disproving your point - Protest marches might not light the world on fire every time ,
but its better than sitting on your arse whinging on the internet

i might not agree with a lot of protests that happen in Ireland , but i would have a world more respect for them getting out and giving a flying **** than some gob****e on Boards

urabell · 12-07-2014 08:06PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

but becasue they were in your eyes working class from poor estates , if they are championing a cause its not worth supporting ???

really - you need your head examined - im really hoping your just a piss poor idiot troll - rather than ACTUALLY having the beliefs you hold.

im actually aghast with astonishment by your posts

They were a few lads off a local Sinn Fein councillor's football team who I knew from growing up, they've never done anything slightly productive in their lives and now I'm supposed to believe they're informed enough about a conflict half the world away to meaningfully protest for one side over another. Not a chance.

ekimiam · 12-07-2014 08:06PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Hamas are firing rockets at Tel Aviv at the moment, are they that brain dead, or do they want the max possible Palestine civilian ( human shields) deaths to garnish international sympathy?

im in no way condoning, but obviously there going to fire. its a war.
you can look at it like that , safely 10,000 km away.

Galwayguy35 · 12-07-2014 08:08PM

bnt wrote: »

There's a reason why there are always civilians where the Hamas rockets are stashed. I have two words for the OP to Google: "human shield". :mad:

Well maybe the Israeli army shouldn't bomb them then when there is that risk, Israel has form here, they were never too bothered who got in the way as long as the target was hit.

mickydoomsux · 12-07-2014 08:09PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

yea , i think you have missed some little protests that did work ,

Derry - The civil rights march
Paris - 1960's student marches
London - poll tax protests
USA - civil rights marches in the 60's
Eastern europe , in the 80's , 90's and recently in Ukraine

i could go on and on disproving your point

None of those marches were the direct reason that any of those things got "fixed". In fact some of them are still ongoing situations.

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

urabell · 12-07-2014 08:09PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

yea , i think you have missed some little protests that did work ,

Derry - The civil rights march
Paris - 1960's student marches
London - poll tax protests
USA - civil rights marches in the 60's
Eastern europe , in the 80's , 90's and recently in Ukraine

i could go on and on disproving your point - Protest marches might not light the world on fire every time ,
but its better than sitting on your arse whinging on the internet

i might not agree with a lot of protests that happen in Ireland , but i would have a world more respect for them getting out and giving a flying **** than some gob****e on Boards

Protest march with 1000 people in Dublin concerning a conflict thousands of miles away =/= civil rights marches. You're not disproving anything except your capacity to understand the world.

ekimiam · 12-07-2014 08:12PM

urabell wrote: »

Protest march with 1000 people in Dublin concerning a conflict thousands of miles away =/= civil rights marches. You're not disproving anything except your capacity to understand the world.

10,000 (apparently from this thread ) marched in london.
probably a dozen other citys in the uk.

Umadbrah? · 12-07-2014 08:13PM

Haha isn't our minister of defence Jewish?

brimal · 12-07-2014 08:13PM

Some quality banners and signs at that protest today, I think the best one was "Freemason Kenny helps to murder children"

:pac:

urabell · 12-07-2014 08:21PM

Umadbrah? wrote: »

Haha isn't our minister of defence Jewish?

He was until a few months ago which is why we haven't been told to climb onto the roof and act as a shield in case of an attack.

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 08:23PM

urabell wrote: »

They were a few lads off a local Sinn Fein councillor's football team who I knew from growing up, they've never done anything slightly productive in their lives and now I'm supposed to believe they're informed enough about a conflict half the world away to meaningfully protest for one side over another. Not a chance.

so that makes them or the cause they are fighting for less valid how ?

from you original post , your distaste is based on where they are from and the clothes they wear

not great reasons for not viewing a cause with some sympathy

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 08:25PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

None of those marches were the direct reason that any of those things got "fixed". In fact some of them are still ongoing situations.

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

you post said all marches were 100% useless , my post proves otherwise , seeing you must know the protests i am talking about :rolleyes:

its not all about fixing , its also about highlighting - as today did , becasue im talk to you

case closed

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 08:27PM

urabell wrote: »

Protest march with 1000 people in Dublin concerning a conflict thousands of miles away =/= civil rights marches. You're not disproving anything except your capacity to understand the world.

understand the world? , says the guy who makes moral decisions based on the clothes someone is wearing :eek:

clap clap clap

mickydoomsux · 12-07-2014 08:32PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

its not all about fixing , its also about highlighting - as today did , becasue im talk to you

case closed

Yes, because no one knew about this until some clowns marched around Dublin today.

They were all so important and we love them all and they are all very special for bring this to our collective attention.

Did we cure war yet?

urabell · 12-07-2014 08:32PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

so that makes them or the cause they are fighting for less valid how ?

from you original post , your distance is based on where they are from and the clothes they wear

not great reasons for not viewing a cause with some sympathy

I've listed about 10 things about these people that would make anyone sane question their grasp on the situation is Israel.

These are things I know having grown up with them.

They didn't finish school
They don't work
They are only involved in the Sinn Fein movement through their football manager who drags them out to the odd protest.

This combined with the way they express themselves through words (profanity laden), actions (aggressive), clothing (shell suits) means that I personally wouldn't take their knowledge of foreign affairs all that seriously, it also leads me to extrapolate these opinions on to groups of Palestine protesters whom I have less knowledge about.

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 08:37PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Yes, because no one knew about this until some clowns marched around Dublin today.

They were all so important and we love them all and they are all very special for bring this to our collective attention.

Did we cure war yet?

FFS Micky - really ??

did we cure war - dont be a d**k

dj jarvis · 12-07-2014 08:40PM

urabell wrote: »

I've listed about 10 things about these people that would make anyone sane question their grasp on the situation is Israel.

These are things I know having grown up with them.

They didn't finish school
They don't work
They are only involved in the Sinn Fein movement through their football manager who drags them out to the odd protest.

This combined with the way they express themselves through words (profanity laden), actions (aggressive), clothing (shell suits) means that I personally wouldn't take their knowledge of foreign affairs all that seriously, it also leads me to extrapolate these opinions on to groups of Palestine protesters whom I have less knowledge about.

so that makes their protest less valid how ?

your just being a middle class snob.

please now , in detail , how these guys protest is less valid in your eyes becasue of what you have just posted

"i would not take their knowledge of foreign affairs all that seriously" , that is why your posts and YOUR opinion are as valid as dog **** on my shoe, and the **** would be more welcome

mickydoomsux · 12-07-2014 08:44PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

FFS Micky - really ??

did we cure war - dont be a d**k

Did that upset you?

Have a protest march against me and my views and see how much of a **** i give.

Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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