urabell wrote: » I've listed about 10 things about these people that would make anyone sane question their grasp on the situation is Israel. These are things I know having grown up with them.They didn't finish school They don't work They are only involved in the Sinn Fein movement through their football manager who drags them out to the odd protest. This combined with the way they express themselves through words (profanity laden), actions (aggressive), clothing (shell suits) means that I personally wouldn't take their knowledge of foreign affairs all that seriously, it also leads me to extrapolate these opinions on to groups of Palestine protesters whom I have less knowledge about.
mickydoomsux wrote: » Yes, because no one knew about this until some clowns marched around Dublin today. They were all so important and we love them all and they are all very special for bring this to our collective attention.Did we cure war yet?
dj jarvis wrote: » so that makes them or the cause they are fighting for less valid how ? from you original post , your distance is based on where they are from and the clothes they wear not great reasons for not viewing a cause with some sympathy
dj jarvis wrote: » its not all about fixing , its also about highlighting - as today did , becasue im talk to you case closed
urabell wrote: » Protest march with 1000 people in Dublin concerning a conflict thousands of miles away =/= civil rights marches. You're not disproving anything except your capacity to understand the world.
mickydoomsux wrote: » None of those marches were the direct reason that any of those things got "fixed". In fact some of them are still ongoing situations. A stopped clock is right twice a day.
urabell wrote: » They were a few lads off a local Sinn Fein councillor's football team who I knew from growing up, they've never done anything slightly productive in their lives and now I'm supposed to believe they're informed enough about a conflict half the world away to meaningfully protest for one side over another. Not a chance.
Umadbrah? wrote: » Haha isn't our minister of defence Jewish?
dj jarvis wrote: » yea , i think you have missed some little protests that did work , Derry - The civil rights march Paris - 1960's student marches London - poll tax protests USA - civil rights marches in the 60's Eastern europe , in the 80's , 90's and recently in Ukraine i could go on and on disproving your point - Protest marches might not light the world on fire every time , but its better than sitting on your arse whinging on the internet i might not agree with a lot of protests that happen in Ireland , but i would have a world more respect for them getting out and giving a flying **** than some gob****e on Boards
dj jarvis wrote: » yea , i think you have missed some little protests that did work , Derry - The civil rights march Paris - 1960's student marches London - poll tax protests USA - civil rights marches in the 60's Eastern europe , in the 80's , 90's and recently in Ukraine i could go on and on disproving your point
bnt wrote: » There's a reason why there are always civilians where the Hamas rockets are stashed. I have two words for the OP to Google: "human shield". :mad:
galwayrush wrote: » Hamas are firing rockets at Tel Aviv at the moment, are they that brain dead, or do they want the max possible Palestine civilian ( human shields) deaths to garnish international sympathy?
dj jarvis wrote: » but becasue they were in your eyes working class from poor estates , if they are championing a cause its not worth supporting ??? really - you need your head examined - im really hoping your just a piss poor idiot troll - rather than ACTUALLY having the beliefs you hold. im actually aghast with astonishment by your posts
mickydoomsux wrote: » I'll have you know that these very same people took down Joey Kony, water charges and the 1%. Oh.... wait.Protests are stupid and they do absolutely zero because in 99.9% of situations the people who are being protested against give absolutely zero ****s about what you think and if they even paid attention to you it would be to crack their hole laughing at you. It's yelling in an empty room. But i'm sure they make some people feel like they've made a difference and it makes it easier for them to sleep at night.
urabell wrote: » If people like that supported the cause it might suggest it was a cause worth supporting, they don't, it isn't. There's deaths on both sides, picking a side based on who's worse at doing the killing is a little silly. Don't be silly.
urabell wrote: » While visiting relatives in Bray a while ago I came across a protest for Palestine on the steps of the Royal hotel, it was made up of a few council estate washouts loosely associated with Sinn Fein who I knew from growing up, half hoping some Israelis might show up for a fight and a group lead by an independent councillor with poor hygene, marijuana and tie dyed shirts. The very sight of the spectacle made me want to join the IDF.
dj jarvis wrote: » so , if they had come from a nice middle class estate and were wearing suits , had impeccable hygiene, you would have supported their cause ? you might have joined Hammas instead ? why bother posting something as pointless as your post ? really baffling stuff
smurgen wrote: » So a bunch of people you dont like went protesting to voice there disgust at the murder of innocent individuals and suppression of human rights and in turn you want to join the murderers?you know what? You should joking the off,you sound well suited to one another
smurgen wrote: » So a bunch of people you dont like went protesting to voice there disgust at the murder of innocent individuals and suppression of human rights and in turn you want to join the murderers?
Santa Cruz wrote: » It wasn't a great turn out. Maybe a 1000 People, most of the usual suspects that turn up for every protest. Why didn't you make it to the embassy. Too busy going for a Latte!
wazky wrote: » 'The Irish are useless, no other people would put up with it.' Then when we do protest 'Sure what difference will it make'