Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07

Strongbow10 · 10-07-2014 02:47PM

Vorm
Lovren
Moreno
Firmino
Markovic
Origi
1 excellent striker

and we are set.

Skylinehead · 10-07-2014 02:48PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

United fan bashing Rafa shocker.

Just :pac: at using his sacking at Liverpool against him given all the turmoil at boardroom level, Inter's general insanity with Moratti in charge and being against him in wanting to bring the general age of the squad down, and his time in Chelsea which he secured top 4 and won the Europa League.

As for Napoli, they finished third with a high turnover of players coming through. You do realise the team that won Seria A set a new points record too?

I've nothing against Benitez at Liverpool, quite the character in fact, but as an Inter fan, he was absolutely shocking in his short time there.

Utopia Parkway · 10-07-2014 02:51PM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Vorm
Lovren
Moreno
Firmino
Markovic
Origi
1 excellent striker

and we are set.

Vorm - Think we will get in a keeper. Not sure if it will be Vorm.
Lovren - Think this will happen.
Moreno - Think this might happen eventually as well.
Firmino - Don't think so.
Markovic - Looks close.
Origi- So does this.
1 excellent striker - Not sure about excellent but think we will get another striker in.

djPSB · 10-07-2014 02:54PM

Benitez was top class at Liverpool.

Have to say his choice of jobs after were risky though.

Took over an Inter team that had just won the CL. Hard to improve on that.

And as interim manager at Chelsea. Regardless of what he achieved, the fans didn't want him.

Liam McPoyle · 10-07-2014 02:58PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

United fan bashing Rafa shocker.

Just :pac: at using his sacking at Liverpool against him given all the turmoil at boardroom level, Inter's general insanity with Moratti in charge and being against him in wanting to bring the general age of the squad down, and his time in Chelsea which he secured top 4 and won the Europa League.

As for Napoli, they finished third with a high turnover of players coming through. You do realise the team that won Seria A set a new points record too?

Oh, I'm sorry.

I seem to have missed the memo where it said that fans of United cannot give their opinion on anything to do with Liverpool without it being a bashing exercise.

I will sit in the corner and think about what I've done.

Thanks for showing me what a terrible person I am.

noodler · 10-07-2014 03:00PM

djPSB wrote: »

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

How often does it happen that non-CL teams are challenging for the league or CL?

I completely disagree with what you say here in terms of a player making his decision to move.

10 Consecutive years of CL football or whatever is going to trump 1 season in six and a Carling Cup.

The trophy won't fund transfers or attract players.

Utopia Parkway · 10-07-2014 03:00PM

Anyways hopefully the club has some kind of surprise in store before the end of August because I find it hard to shake the feeling that list of players linked with us has been a bit underwhelming. I would expect us to be able to sign nearly all of them even without CL football.

This Summer, Liverpool have both A. Champions League football and B. A huge pile of cash to spend. If you are going to bring in genuine quality you had better do it this Summer because we may not have either next Summer.

trainslaughing · 10-07-2014 03:03PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Anyways hopefully the club has some kind of surprise in store before the end of August because I find it hard to shake the feeling that list of players linked with us has been a bit underwhelming. I would expect us to be able to sign nearly all of them even without CL football.

This Summer, Liverpool have both A. Champions League football and B. A huge pile of cash to spend. If you are going to bring in genuine quality you had better do it this Summer because we may not have either next Summer.

There it all is right there.

whatawaster · 10-07-2014 03:07PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Anyways hopefully the club has some kind of surprise in store before the end of August because I find it hard to shake the feeling that list of players linked with us has been a bit underwhelming. I would expect us to be able to sign nearly all of them even without CL football.

This Summer, Liverpool have both A. Champions League football and B. A huge pile of cash to spend. If you are going to bring in genuine quality you had better do it this Summer because we may not have either next Summer.

It doesn't really matter if we are underwhelmed or not by transfers.

The point isn't to please or appease fans. We know **** all in the scheme of things. I'm certain the club think Markovic is the best winger/attacking midfielder available to us at this point in time, otherwise they wouldn't sign him

It also doesn't really matter if we could/couldn't have signed them without CL football. It's not about how famous the players are or how expensive they are. It's about how well they fit in and perform for us this season and in the coming seasons.

Spurs signed two big names last summer - Soldado and Lamela both for around 30m. Both were hyped and there was general devastation last summer that we got neither. Soldado completely flopped. Lamela didn't start great and then spent the rest of the season injured.

If Markovic, Lallana and whoever else we sign have the impact that Coutinho or Sturridge have then I'll be happy

Nuri Sahin · 10-07-2014 03:08PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

I've nothing against Benitez at Liverpool, quite the character in fact, but as an Inter fan, he was absolutely shocking in his short time there.

I called it at the time, but he was on a hiding to nothing after what had occurred the season before, as it was near certain that players would have slacked off unless perhaps Mourinho had remained in charge. Rafa wanted money to spend and to lower the average age of the squad by bringing in players who were hungry for success. Moratti didn't agree. There are one or similarities in that regard with Moyes and Man U, except Rafa is a vastly superior coach, obviously As an Inter fan, you should know how insane Moratti is. Despite that, he still won a couple of cups and it was still far too early for him to be sacked, IMHO.

Nuri Sahin · 10-07-2014 03:12PM

Business Cat wrote: »

Oh, I'm sorry.

I seem to have missed the memo where it said that fans of United cannot give their opinion on anything to do with Liverpool without it being a bashing exercise.

I will sit in the corner and think about what I've done.

Thanks for showing me what a terrible person I am.

One day I'll hear/read a United apply context to Rafa's situation in previous or current club, but till then..

Even just using last season to criticise him is misguided, let alone what happened at Liverpool or Inter.

Skylinehead · 10-07-2014 03:14PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I called it at the time, but he was on a hiding to nothing after what had occurred the season before, as it was near certain that players would have slacked off unless perhaps Mourinho had remained in charge.

Absolutely, whoever took the job was onto a loser really, so I don't actually blame him.

Rafa wanted money to spend and to lower the average age of the squad by bringing in players who were hungry for success. Moratti didn't agree. There are one or similarities in that regard with Moyes and Man U, except Rafa is a vastly superior coach, obviously As an Inter fan, you should know how insane Moratti is.

Oh yeah Moratti is a nut, can't argue with that. Pretty much wrecked the club at this point until Thohir took over, and it's still not rosy.

Despite that, he still won a couple of cups and it was still far too early for him to be sacked, IMHO.

I don't think it was ever going to work by the time he got sacked. Poor performances in both Europe and Serie A, plus the public outburst at Moratti.

Strongbow10 · 10-07-2014 03:14PM

Serge Aurier has already signed by the looks of things

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Aurier

Utopia Parkway · 10-07-2014 03:15PM

whatawaster wrote: »

It doesn't really matter if we are underwhelmed or not by transfers.

It also doesn't really matter if we could/couldn't have signed them without CL football. It's not about how famous the players are or how expensive they are. It's about how well they fit in and perform for us this season and in the coming seasons.

Spurs signed two big names last summer - Soldado and Lamela both for around 30m. Both were hyped and there was general devastation last summer that we got neither. Soldado completely flopped. Lamela didn't start great and then spent the rest of the season injured.

If Markovic, Lallana and whoever else we sign have the impact that Coutinho or Sturridge have then I'll be happy

Don't get me wrong. I think they are good players. Was a big fan of Lallana last season and I expect him to do very well. Markovic very highly rated but is young and we just haven't seen enough of him yet.

Just think this is an opportunity for the club to push the boat out a little that might not present itself next year. Maybe it will though.

Anyone · 10-07-2014 03:17PM

Business Cat wrote: »

Oh, I'm sorry.

I seem to have missed the memo where it said that fans of United cannot give their opinion on anything to do with Liverpool without it being a bashing exercise.

I will sit in the corner and think about what I've done.

Thanks for showing me what a terrible person I am.

Its ok to make mistakes as long as you learn from them.

Nuri Sahin · 10-07-2014 03:17PM

De Vrij is apparently Lazio bound. Another player I'd have been very happy with us signing to partner Sissoko.

I am pie · 10-07-2014 03:17PM

The ignorance of calling the Italian league a cr4ppy league is breathtaking. I can imagine an Italian football fan coming on to boards.ie and listening to some galloot gassing on about how their league is cr4p.

3rd place is a poor finish now is it?

Hotfail.com · 10-07-2014 03:18PM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Serge Aurier has already signed by the looks of things

Christ he looks scarier than Sakho :pac:

whatawaster · 10-07-2014 03:22PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Don't get me wrong. I think they are good players. Was a big fan of Lallana last season and I expect him to do very well. Markovic very highly rated but is young and we just haven't seen enough of him yet.

Just think this is an opportunity for the club to push the boat out a little that might not present itself next year. Maybe it will though.

Thing is we tried to sign Alexis Sanchez, who is definitely at the upper end of the scale in terms of who we could attract (and we couldn't attract him!).

I'm not sure what big names are out there that want to come here that we are missing out on.

I know plenty want Griezmann, and yes, he does look like a very good player, likewise Shaqiri. But I wouldn't call either "big" names and I don't think either are a) a patch on what we are losing (Suarez) or b) much better than what we have in Sturridge, Sterling and Coutinho. (not saying neither wouldn't be automatic starters here, of course they probably would, but I don't see them as no-brainer type signings that we have to make.

rob316 · 10-07-2014 03:23PM

FIFA have rejected Suarez appeal. Off to the CAS now I presume.

Boom_Bap · 10-07-2014 03:25PM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Serge Aurier has already signed by the looks of things

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Aurier

He signed a five year deal with liverpool on the 10th July 2014 which will earn him 100,000 dunkin donuts a week aswell as a free ride to melwood on ian ayre's Harley Davidson

Sounds like a sweet deal.

10-07-2014 03:27PM

rob316 wrote: »

FIFA have rejected Suarez appeal. Off to the CAS now I presume.

No worries as soon as Chewy signs for Barca I'm sure they will review this decision..

10-07-2014 03:31PM

whatawaster wrote: »

Thing is we tried to sign Alexis Sanchez, who is definitely at the upper end of the scale in terms of who we could attract (and we couldn't attract him!).

I'm not sure what big names are out there that want to come here that we are missing out on.

I know plenty want Griezmann, and yes, he does look like a very good player, likewise Shaqiri. But I wouldn't call either "big" names and I don't think either are a) a patch on what we are losing (Suarez) or b) much better than what we have in Sturridge, Sterling and Coutinho. (not saying neither wouldn't be automatic starters here, of course they probably would, but I don't see them as no-brainer type signings that we have to make.

Griezmann & Shaqiri both have 4-5 seasons of professional football under their belt and both have champions league experience neither of which Markovic has. This does worry me but I sincerely hope Markovic can make me eat my words because he does look like a greater risk than Griezmann or Shaqiri..

Strongbow10 · 10-07-2014 03:32PM

Would be absolutely fantastic if the club made a move for someone like Marco Reus. Guaranteed goals from a wide position.

Long term I think Markovic will play more centrally. Would also prefer to see Lallana playing as one of 3 central midfielders alongside Gerrard and possibly a more robust box to box midfielder (possibly Can).

Mignolet

Aurier

Lovren

Sakho

Moreno

Gerrard

Lallana

Can

Markovic

Reus

Sturridge

The above team is fantasy stuff of course, but has great balance to it.

whatawaster · 10-07-2014 03:36PM

If Reus leaves Dortmund it would be for Barca/Real/Bayern/City(unfortunately)/Chelsea(unfortunately). He won't be playing for Liverpool, so there is no point pining after players like that

Turtyturd · 10-07-2014 03:38PM

Needs a better DM.

Jayob10 · 10-07-2014 03:44PM

whatawaster wrote: »

If Reus leaves Dortmund it would be for Barca/Real/Bayern/City(unfortunately)/Chelsea(unfortunately). He won't be playing for Liverpool, so there is no point pining after players like that

Reus is the calibre of player we should be shooting for if we are looking to spend the Suarez money wisely.

£35million should be dangled in front of Dortmund.

Whilst we are mentioning names, i'm going to through a few British names out there, excellent youngish additions to our squad.

Karl Darlow (Nottingham Forest Keeper)
Jamaal Lascelles (Nottingham Forest centre back) - Top prospect
Kieran Trippier (Burnely right full)

2 of these players (Lascelles and Trippier) are capable of making the jump to play not only in the premier league, but also for a side in the top 5. Darlow is an excellent keeper and would provide perfect cover and competition for Mignolet.

cunnifferous · 10-07-2014 03:44PM

Linked with a £40 million bid for Benzema from the ever reliable Metro. Sorry if already posted.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/10/liverpool-want-40million-real-madrid-star-karim-benzema-as-luis-suarez-replacement-4793021/

Hotfail.com · 10-07-2014 03:44PM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Would be absolutely fantastic if the club made a move for someone like Marco Reus. Guaranteed goals from a wide position.

Long term I think Markovic will play more centrally. Would also prefer to see Lallana playing as one of 3 central midfielders alongside Gerrard and possibly a more robust box to box midfielder (possibly Can).
Mignolet

Aurier
Lovren
Sakho
Moreno

Gerrard
Lallana
Can

Markovic
Reus
Sturridge

The above team is fantasy stuff of course, but has great balance to it.

Don't see anything too fantasy there, Reus is really the only one that more than likely won't happen.

Hotfail.com · 10-07-2014 03:45PM

cunnifferous wrote: »

Linked with a £40 million bid for Benzema from the ever reliable Metro. Sorry if already posted.

Please no!

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