Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 mod warning linked in OP 26/07

Jesus Wept · 10-07-2014 12:24PM

We should relocate the club to London.

whatawaster · 10-07-2014 12:26PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

the manager plays a key ingredient in attracting players. i said it before (and got heat for it) but if rodgers was in charge of liverpool back in the day no chance would torres, masch, alonso etc have signed for the club at the time.

last few years the excuses were that liverpool lost out on numerous players due to no champions league involvement and now its something else...

The same Javier Mascherano who signed for Alan Curbishley?

Rodgers has just won manager of the year, finished second in the league and his reputation is sky high. Definitely not at the level of Wenger's, but I don't think any players will be put off coming to Liverpool because of him.

Utopia Parkway · 10-07-2014 12:27PM

whatawaster wrote: »

The same Javier Mascherano who signed for Alan Curbishley?

Offer a player enough money and they would sign for Dunphy's Ragball Rovers.

djPSB · 10-07-2014 12:30PM

noodler wrote: »

Well, I think that is moving the goalposts.

We have managed to qualify for the CL once in the last 6 years - which was our major aim.

Arsenal have managed this every year with relative ease - perhaps they collapse but by the time they do they have already gone miles past our own targets.

Yeah but we needed them goals with the defence as porous as it was. Suarez was also the top assister in the league and removing that seriously harms the number of Sturridge goals and Gerrard penalties.

The almost guarantee of CL football every year > winning the Carling Cup.

For me anyway but I'd wager for Alexis Sanchez as well.

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

cson · 10-07-2014 12:31PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Sanchez by all accounts is not a particularly deep thinker. I doubt he went through both Arsenal and Liverpool's squads with a fine tooth comb and mulled over the strengths and weaknesses of the respective managers over a glass of sherry. He was offered two two teams in the Champions League (well one so far technically) and chose to live in capital over the grim north.

Liverpool have lost players to bloody Spurs over the same reason. Let alone Arsenal.

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The truth is probably a lot simpler. Arsenal offered to make Sanchez their top earner. I'd say that we wanted to pay him a lot less.

Haha lads you're like a fella who's been turned down by a bird in Coppers and you're reverting to the "I never liked her anyway"/"She's only with him for his money" schtick.

Complex or what. :pac:

djPSB · 10-07-2014 12:33PM

cson wrote: »

Haha lads you're like a fella who's been turned down by a bird in Coppers and you're reverting to the "I never liked her anyway"/"She's only with him for his money" schtick.

Complex or what. :pac:

Complexities like that would never happen in Coppers.

cson · 10-07-2014 12:34PM

djPSB wrote: »

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

But if we add a Carling Cup to that, then its ok right?

Cos that's what you've won in 9 years.

Fescue · 10-07-2014 12:34PM

cson wrote: »

But if we add a Carling Cup to that, then its ok right?

Cos that's what you've won in 9 years.

Don't forget the Champions League!

Mickeroo · 10-07-2014 12:36PM

Fescue wrote: »

Don't forget the Champions League!

If you're counting the CL that means Arsenal have won 2 FA Cups in the 9 year period :P

cson · 10-07-2014 12:37PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

If you're counting the CL that means Arsenal have won 2 FA Cups in the 9 year period :P

Fescue · 10-07-2014 12:37PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

If you're counting the CL that means Arsenal have won 2 FA Cups in the 9 year period :P

Would you trade 2 FA Cups for one Champions League?

greendom · 10-07-2014 12:40PM

djPSB wrote: »

The guarantee of CL every year is worth diddly squat if it doesn't result in consistent silverware.

For example, as a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't be pleased if Liverpool were to qualify for the CL for the next 9 years yet only manage to win an FA Cup in that period.

Even if you had to relocate and pay for a new stadium in that period ?

delw · 10-07-2014 12:42PM

Fescue wrote: »

Don't forget the Champions League!

and an FA cup

Mickeroo · 10-07-2014 12:44PM

Fescue wrote: »

Would you trade 2 FA Cups for one Champions League?

Of course, but sure let's add another year onto the period while we're at it and include a league title (unbeaten), it would make this argument no less silly imo.

Both of our clubs have been below where we want them to be for almost decade, though ye came damn close to rectifying that last season in fairness.

taidghbaby · 10-07-2014 12:47PM

Jesus ****ing christ

IK09 · 10-07-2014 12:53PM

No no no no no no no no no no

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/487805/TRANSFER-NEWS-Man-Utd-s-35m-Martinez-bid-Liverpool-s-Cuadrado-boost-Spurs-eye-Draxler

Wouldnt be able to handle him signing for Utd

Utopia Parkway · 10-07-2014 12:55PM

IK09 wrote: »

No no no no no no no no no no

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/487805/TRANSFER-NEWS-Man-Utd-s-35m-Martinez-bid-Liverpool-s-Cuadrado-boost-Spurs-eye-Draxler

Wouldnt be able to handle him signing for Utd

Cannot see Bayern letting Martinez go with Kroos apparently off to Madrid.

barone · 10-07-2014 12:56PM

Gonna b a long few weeks in this thread

Fescue · 10-07-2014 12:56PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Of course, but sure let's add another year onto the period while we're at it and include a league title (unbeaten), it would make this argument no less silly imo.

Both of our clubs have been below where we want them to be for almost decade, though ye came damn close to rectifying that last season in fairness.

Of course. I'd give anything to see Liverpool win the League. I dare say you would give anything to see Arsenal win the Champions League.

IK09 · 10-07-2014 12:57PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Cannot see Bayern letting Martinez go with Kroos apparently off to Madrid.

Are Bayern after him? Martinez is a Stiker, Kroos is a centre mid. I dont understand.

Utopia Parkway · 10-07-2014 12:58PM

IK09 wrote: »

Are Bayern after him? Martinez is a Stiker, Kroos is a centre mid. I dont understand.

Oops wrong Martinez. Thought it was Javi.

5live · 10-07-2014 01:10PM

cson wrote: »

Haha lads you're like a fella who's been turned down by a bird in Coppers and you're reverting to the "I never liked her anyway"/"She's only with him for his money" schtick.

Complex or what. :pac:

+£1

Nuri Sahin · 10-07-2014 01:11PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

the manager plays a key ingredient in attracting players. i said it before (and got heat for it) but if rodgers was in charge of liverpool back in the day no chance would torres, masch, alonso etc have signed for the club at the time.

last few years the excuses were that liverpool lost out on numerous players due to no champions league involvement and now its something else...

One day you'll post something remotely positive. I bolieve in you.

MD1990 · 10-07-2014 01:21PM

We are not signing huge names but its is a very important to have PL experience. Bony for me would be a good buy & if he stays fit gurantees 10-20 goals in the PL. Bony & Lambert are not huge names but they scored 30 PL goals last season.

Pyjamarama · 10-07-2014 01:29PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

One day you'll post something remotely positive. I bolieve in you.

I don't usually complain about posts but bo Dallas is a jobber! Get him back to nxt with all the little flippy guys who'll never draw a dime!!

Soft Falling Rain · 10-07-2014 01:41PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

the manager plays a key ingredient in attracting players. i said it before (and got heat for it) but if rodgers was in charge of liverpool back in the day no chance would torres, masch, alonso etc have signed for the club at the time.

last few years the excuses were that liverpool lost out on numerous players due to no champions league involvement and now its something else...

Funny, back in the day the manager at the time was derided as a fat spanish waiter.

Now he's the world class manager who was the reason we attracted top names like Torres.

Moving the goalposts indeed.

Hangballlouie · 10-07-2014 01:48PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I don't usually complain about posts but bo Dallas is a jobber! Get him back to nxt with all the little flippy guys who'll never draw a dime!!

he's unbeaten.

Liam McPoyle · 10-07-2014 01:50PM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Funny, back in the day the manager at the time was derided as a fat spanish waiter.

Now he's the world class manager who was the reason we attracted top names like Torres.

Moving the goalposts indeed.

When did Benitez become world class?

More or less sacked by Liverpool.

Sacked by Inter.

Only got an interim contract at Chelsea.

To date performing averagely in a crappy league.

Not world class by any stretch IMO.

Slattsy · 10-07-2014 01:53PM

I'd hate to think where Liverpool would be now with Rafa still in charge.
It scares me *shudders

Utopia Parkway · 10-07-2014 01:55PM

Business Cat wrote: »

When did Benitez become world class?

More or less sacked by Liverpool.

Sacked by Inter.

Only got an interim contract at Chelsea.

To date performing averagely in a crappy league.

Not world class by any stretch IMO.

Doesn't sound dissimilar to Louis van Gaal to be honest.

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