Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

Happyman42 wrote: »

The eyes of the world are on us too? Has the world nothing better to be at?

The eyes of the world is most certainly not on us! Those people who keep bandying that line need their head examining.
This is not even causing the faintest of ripples in Tulsa, our heros home town.

Trigger Happy wrote: »

You would have to wonder what is in the water at city hall.

This is how it must have gone down

Shinners - What's the result?
Counter guy - Your proposal just got through.
Shinners - Great. We say all 5 concerts go ahead.
City Manager - No.
Shinners - Ahh, ok . AOB ?

My name is URL wrote: »

Most locals have no problem with the proposed concerts going ahead.

How do you know this?

My name is URL wrote: »

That's disingenuous to say the least. He's the one spearheading the PR campaign against the decision being overturned, and before the decision was made he was the one coming out on behalf of residents and voicing their opposition to the added dates.

Because that's what he's there for.

Mr.S wrote: »

I think the RA's handled this poorly, instead of having an an all out war with the GAA / Croke Park / DCC / Aiken they could have come to a proper agreement re concerts in the future at Croke Park, a strict limit that can't be broken, and let all / some of the Garth concerts happen, to secure a proper agreement.

Sure we're just going to have this mess again in the next few years.

Sure there was an agreement and the agreement was not respected, I think this is the point the residents Association are trying to make and the council have backed them up fully.

I saw footage the other day of a lockdown type situation around Croke Park before the One Direction concert, where residents had a situation whereby private security people, not even Gardai, were enforcing security controls on streets around Croke Park. I'm sure this is normal enough protocol for large scale events like this, but have any of us ever wondered what it would be like to be living with Gaza strip like security controls operating around us? You'd put up with it on some level, but at what point does it start to feel like you are continually under some sort of a siege in your own house?!?

It seems to me that an agreement was reached and then an agreement was disregarded and the same thing that has caused the ruination of this country and in particular our economy in recent years, namely greed, greed and more fúcking greed, has now been the cause of this debacle, where one organisation appeared to think that it was so well in with the local authority, that the licensing of the event was a mere formality that was as good as in the bag, that the auld nudge and the wink would take care of everything at the end of the day. This is the very same kind of blatant disregard for the planning process in this country, that had shíthole shoebox sized apartments made of glorified cardboard, being thrown up all over the place, some of which have to now be pulled down because they can't even meet the most basic of fire safety regulations.

We can't have it every which way, we can't criticise public authorities when they are asleep at the wheel and then as we have seen with the banks, all sorts of recklessness ends up going on under their noses because they have failed to enforce the law, but yet then when a local authority tries to impose the law and hold people to it, we decide to have a national shít hemorrhage about it because we stupidly think that our still bamboozled domestic economy in Dublin, needs the money more than the whole country needs to have a regime where the laws of the land actually mean something.

We can't have it both ways I think.

The Irish domestic economy has been in a complete heap for the last 6 years, it was destroyed before there was any mention of Garth Brooks coming here, and is still being wrecked through continuing austerity, we have tolerated tens of billions of Euro being taken out of our own pockets by our own government, to pay for failed zombie banks, yet we have a collective nervous breakdown when a local authority tries to fairly apply the law in the face of big business interests in the capital, such as the GAA and the Dublin Chamber of Commerce, when the outcome of that decision is that a concert worth around 50 million Euro to the Dublin economy, (50 million that practically none of us will realistically share in unless we happen to own a hotel or a pub in Dublin), is possibly cancelled or curtailed.

Also, the emotional blackmail coming from business lobby groups, the "oh look, the world is watching us now, careful there Ted, we don't want to upset the markets or those bondholders again", that are trying to push back a lawful decision that has been made by the proper authorities, I find to be personally sickening. We are not eejits, we have laws and please God if we have learnt anything in the last 10 years, it is that light touch regulation or no regulation at all, has certainly not done us much service.