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US golf and military hysteria

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭mister gullible


    We were supposed to fight for people who couldn't fight for themselves. We were supposed to fight for golfers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Golfers, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? Service men have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for our brave soldiers being acknowledged on the golf course. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what they know: that they probably saved lives. And their existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about, trundling up the fairway, wondering will you find your sliced drive, you want them on that course. You need them on that course.
    They use words like honour, code, loyalty...they use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. They have neither the time nor loothe inclination to explain themselves to a man who chips and putts under the blanket of the very freedom they provide, then questions the manner in which they are acknowledged for it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post.

    We can debate that sort of claptrap somewhere else. I would just like golf and other sporting events to be about the contestants and the contest and not be a platform for anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭mister gullible


    First Up wrote: »
    We can debate that sort of claptrap somewhere else. I would just like golf and other sporting events to be about the contestants and the contest and not be a platform for anything else.



    T'was tongue in cheek I think. (A few good men)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,518 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    First Up wrote: »
    We can debate that sort of claptrap somewhere else. I would just like golf and other sporting events to be about the contestants and the contest and not be a platform for anything else.

    So no marching bands before rugby games?
    No national anthems to be played?
    No fighter jet flyovers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    GreeBo wrote: »
    So no marching bands before rugby games?
    No national anthems to be played?
    No fighter jet flyovers?

    Pre-game theatrics or entertainment can be debated - it could be argued they contribute to atmosphere. My objection is to bringing the military veneration thing into the conducting of the event itself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭Russman


    First Up wrote: »
    Pre-game theatrics or entertainment can be debated - it could be argued they contribute to atmosphere. My objection is to bringing the military veneration thing into the conducting of the event itself.

    I can see where you're coming from alright. I think if it was just at one or two events and became a tradition of those events, it'd be better, like say, the madness of the 16th at Scottsdale, but I can see how its creeping more and more into the tour over there. Its almost like the military is now an essential part of a PGA Tour event, which I'm not sure is a good thing.

    Then again, I'm not American, and probably don't appreciate how important military is to them over there, tbh its not even an irritation for me. Its their country, let them do what they want at an event. If the foreigners don't like it, the foreigners can go home.
    Lots of towns/states over there have big military history that's woven into the fabric of their society, and if it was just at a few events, why should some event in Texas have an army representative over say, San Diego with its huge navy base ? When I've been over there in the last few years, it has seemed at times as if every second house has someone serving in some branch of their military, is having a flag tended to by a soldier such a big deal ? Rightly or wrongly its part of who they are, especially the golfers who are overwhelmingly supportive of one party over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    You don't have to watch US events; like I say cancel the sky subscriptions and find something else to be offended at. The only hysteria I can see is on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    You don't have to watch US events; like I say cancel the sky subscriptions and find something else to be offended at. The only hysteria I can see is on this thread.

    You don't have to abandon something entirely just because you disagree with an aspect of it.

    I regularly come across dumbass posts on this site, that I disagree with, but that doesn't stop me from using the site.

    I expect another one any minute now actually. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    You don't have to watch US events; like I say cancel the sky subscriptions and find something else to be offended at. The only hysteria I can see is on this thread.

    Easier to watch the golf with sound off and remote in hand. That gets me to bits I want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭paulos53


    I hope the OP isn't watching the open on BBC right now :p


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