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video of an Irish teen performing 24 sex acts for a free cocktail gone viral

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  • #152
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    You're saying she wouldn't care about the consequences though.
    Her acts suggest she doesn't but I would assume she cares a lot right now.


  • #153
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Her acts suggest she doesn't but I would assume she cares a lot right now.

    Course she bleedin' does!


    Do you think she deserves the treatment she's getting?


  • #154
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    The video was put on the internet against her wishes, same as if one of your sexual encounters was put online. Sure it was irresponsible of her, it's much more likely for public sex acts to end up online than private sex acts, but it's still victim blaming. She's the victim here, it's not her fault that videos have been sent to her parents, it's the **** who sent the emails.
    She carried out the act in a public place at a time when everyone carries a camera on them at all times. Everyone is aware of this and most people wouldn't put themselves in that situation but she did. That was a choice she made and now she has to deal with the consequences. Hopefully she'll learn from this.


  • #155
    The Diabolical Monocle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    The sun, as a quality newspaper for quality people, has her on its front page.


    The editor of the sun is David Dinsmore.

    He's the man who will be faux-apologizing for editorial management oversights in about a week when she tops herself.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dinsmore


  • #156
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    She carried out the act in a public place at a time when everyone carries a camera on them at all times. Everyone is aware of this and most people wouldn't put themselves in that situation but she did. That was a choice she made and now she has to deal with the consequences. Hopefully she'll learn from this.

    Some fcuking consequences! Ever so slightly out of proportion to the crime, no?


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  • #157
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Some fcuking consequences! Ever so slightly out of proportion to the crime, no?

    There was no crime. She's just a stupid girl who didn't think.


  • #158
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »
    The sun, as a quality newspaper for quality people, has her on its front page.


    The editor of the sun is David Dinsmore.

    He's the man who will be faux-apologizing for editorial management oversights in about a week when she tops herself.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dinsmore

    Imagine this "news story" was on the front cover a national newspaper! Of course the video was put on their website so people could have a good look at it repeatedly and get their rocks off SORRY be appalled and horrified by the "disintegration of society" and the "lack of morals of yoof today". It oozes hypocrisy. Horrible stuff.


  • #159
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    There was no crime. She's just a stupid girl who didn't think.

    Yep. And definitely not deserving of the treatment she's getting online.


  • #160
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Yep. And definitely not deserving of the treatment she's getting online.
    Are people saying anything untrue?


  • #161
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Are people saying anything untrue?


    They're making a vast number of high horse moral judgements and firing out abuse, which is obviously what hes on about.


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  • #162
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Are people saying anything untrue?

    You'll have to answer the question I've asked you a few times now first: does she deserve the treatment she's getting e.g. what's happening on 4chan (personal details posted and the video sent to family members etc) and having her photo and video printed in tabloid newspapers and all over the internet so everyone will know who she is which will inevitably lead to bullying offline as well as online.


    Answer me straight: does she deserve it? Yes or no?


  • #163
    CageWager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    She shouldn't worry, it'll blow over..


  • #164
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Nodin wrote: »
    They're making a vast number of high horse moral judgements and firing out abuse, which is obviously what hes on about.
    People are attracted to this sort of scandal like flies on shít the girl would do well to ignore them and take this as a bitter lesson well learned. I do pity the girl but I believe people have to accept the consequences of their actions and alcohol is no excuse.


  • #165
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    People are attracted to this sort of scandal like flies on shít the girl would do well to ignore them and take this as a bitter lesson well learned. I do pity the girl but I believe people have to accept the consequences of their actions and alcohol is no excuse.

    ....yes, the consequences of a harmless action.


  • #166
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    People are attracted to this sort of scandal like flies on shít the girl would do well to ignore them and take this as a bitter lesson well learned. I do pity the girl but I believe people have to accept the consequences of their actions and alcohol is no excuse.

    It's victim blaming and it's completely disproportionate to what she did. If you walk down a dark alley and get mugged, should you "accept the consequences" of your actions with people criticising your behaviour or would you feel hard done by? Maybe she shouldn't have done what she done, but the vilification is undeserved - she didn't harm anyone.


  • #167
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    You'll have to answer the question I've asked you a few times now first: does she deserve the treatment she's getting e.g. what's happening on 4chan (personal details posted and the video sent to family members etc) and having her photo and video printed in tabloid newspapers and all over the internet so everyone will know who she is which will inevitably lead to bullying offline as well as online.


    Answer me straight: does she deserve it? Yes or no?
    She deserves it but I won't partake because it's distasteful. I do pity her though and I hope she can get through this ok.
    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    It's victim blaming and it's completely disproportionate to what she did. If you walk down a dark alley and get mugged, should you "accept the consequences" of your actions with people criticising your behaviour or would you feel hard done by? Maybe she shouldn't have done what she done, but the vilification is undeserved - she didn't harm anyone.
    I would feel hard done by of course and I would make note not to go down that alleyway again.
    Nodin wrote: »
    ....yes, the consequences of a harmless action.
    Harmless actions can have negative consequences.


  • #168
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    She deserves it but I won't partake because it's distasteful. I do pity her though and I hope she can get through this ok.


    Pathetic.


  • #169
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Nodin wrote: »
    Pathetic.
    Have some decency and debate properly or I'll put you on ignore.


  • #170
    PizzamanIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Oh she's Irish? Nice tits.


  • #171
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Have some decency and debate properly or I'll put you on ignore.


    et vous? "She deserves it"


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  • #172
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    I hate even being caught in the background when people are taking pictures when I'm walking down the street, or ending up in photos that assholes upload to facebook after a night out when they're swanning around with their poxy fecking phones and cameras - I'd be mortified if someone uploaded a video of me sucking off twenty-four guys...


  • #173
    The Aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Have some decency and debate properly or I'll put you on ignore.

    Oh what a cracking retort...

    Pathetic posts deserve to be called pathetic.


  • #174
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Have some decency and debate properly or I'll put you on ignore.

    oooooh teh power
    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    She deserves it .......

    Why ?
    Why does she deserve to be harassed ?

    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I do pity her though

    Pity.

    You say she deserves it then you feel pity for her


  • #175
    GalwayGuy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    You'll have to answer the question I've asked you a few times now first: does she deserve the treatment she's getting e.g. what's happening on 4chan (personal details posted and the video sent to family members etc) and having her photo and video printed in tabloid newspapers and all over the internet so everyone will know who she is which will inevitably lead to bullying offline as well as online.


    Answer me straight: does she deserve it? Yes or no?

    Helllll noooooo.

    Some of the reactions of the internet are pure evil.

    Also, I don't see anything 'shameful' about the act. There consenting adults.

    *Shrugs*

    None of the parties (besides the people who uploaded the video) should ashamed.


  • #176
    Knob Longman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭Knob Longman


    What she does should be her own business, Stupid media making it out to be a scandal.


  • #177
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    She deserves it but I won't partake because it's distasteful.
    Most stupidly contradictory sentence ever.
    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Have some decency and debate properly or I'll put you on ignore.
    Is he supposed to view that as a threat?


  • #178
    The Aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    gctest50 wrote: »
    oooooh teh power

    We'll those that don't have it normally trip on it ad lib.

    Also commonly known as Small Man Syndrome...


  • #179
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The only way this kind of thing will stop being a scandal is if we normalize sex to the point at which there's nothing "forbidden", "dirty" or "naughty" about it.

    Plenty of things people do for fun wouldn't attract any scandal at all. A video of her playing snooker in the club against 24 men would be considered mundane. Until we manage to eradicate all shame around sex in this manner, it will continue to be "scandalous".


  • #180
    Neeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,909 ✭✭✭Neeson


    Anyone have a link to the 4chan thread? A lo of them seem to say not found.


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  • #181
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    I dunno. Some days I think the internet is the dog's bollocks and some days I think it's a load of me hole.


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