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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭jamesbondings


    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/garth-brooks-for-us-it-is-five-shows-or-none-at-all-30405764.html

    garth throws toys out of his pram.......

    or trys to pressure dcc into submission


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Don't know. I think they played in '87 as well and I have vague memories of someone else playing but can't remember who.

    Edit - Google's yer only man. Simple Minds played in '86


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Your point was that it was a sporting venue for years and mine was that another purpose was found for it so why not go with it. Just because something is used for one purpose for a time does not mean that it shouldn't be expected that it may be used in other ways. The residents chose to live beside an international sporting venue, they made that choice and it may have been made 40 years ago but when you move to such a place you have to accept that some disruption will come with it.



    The issue is that a number of the residents are up in arms because 5 additional gigs were planned. We get that, what we don't get is why they are so against it. You'd swear that the venue was being used every other day but it's not. They want to stage 8 concerts there this year, that's 8 nights out of 365. the 5 additional nights will bring in millions of euro, attract tourists froma ll ove the world, create some employment and now it's all in jeopardy because a few people aren't happy.

    I don't thin the issue in the number of days, it's the fact they are in a row - they are during the week.

    The idea of bringing million to Ireland - why don't they hold 10 concerts then and double the money?

    Like I've asked before - how many GAA matches are played during the week in Croke Park at night?


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe 3 night in a row, and then 5 nights in a row; maybe you or other residents might then have concerns if that was repeated each year.


    I'd have no problem with events being held there a number of nights a year, in fact I'd welcome it. It would create jobs and bring money into the city and it could even attract some artists I'd like to see live.
    It's be great if the stadium could be utilized for the maximum financial gain; but if the GAA want to do that, they should engage and agree with the residents who would suffer as a consequence.

    Why should they? The GAA own it and it's been there for over a hundred years so why should they need permission from people living in the vicinity.

    I wonder how many of the residents protesting the use of the venue gave back the free tickets they got?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Rightwing wrote: »
    They've disgraced themselves with their greed.

    GAA 0 : Residents 5

    Is it not GAA 3: Residents 2?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    Common sense prevails for once, who in their right mind would want to pay money to watch this tripe.

    Would be cringe worthy anyway, culchies with red faces with boot cut wrangler jeans with George Webb shoes and gaa polo shirts with the collar pulled up and a cowboy hat, an absolute embarrassment to the country, even my mate back from Australia said they dress like that and are a total embarrassment to Irish abroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007



    Hard for the DCC to allow the concerts to go ahead after they publically gave the reason for them not to allow the licence.

    Brooks confirms that he doesn't care about his fans though - it's all about money. Why not come over and entertain the 240,000 that have tickets on days that are licence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Is it not GAA 3: Residents 2?

    The whole thing looks like crumbling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Rightwing wrote: »
    The whole thing looks like crumbling.

    Yeah, the original 5-0 score might be right after all!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭BoB_BoT


    Why should they? The GAA own it and it's been there for over a hundred years so why should they need permission from people living in the vicinity.

    Because people have a right to enjoy living in their own homes?

    If you're going to go down this route, why were they allowed to build more houses near the stadium? Did the council not foresee that it would one day want to become a music venue?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Steam Roller


    Your point was that it was a sporting venue for years and mine was that another purpose was found for it so why not go with it. Just because something is used for one purpose for a time does not mean that it shouldn't be expected that it may be used in other ways. The residents chose to live beside an international sporting venue, they made that choice and it may have been made 40 years ago but when you move to such a place you have to accept that some disruption will come with it.



    The issue is that a number of the residents are up in arms because 5 additional gigs were planned. We get that, what we don't get is why they are so against it. You'd swear that the venue was being used every other day but it's not. They want to stage 8 concerts there this year, that's 8 nights out of 365. the 5 additional nights will bring in millions of euro, attract tourists froma ll ove the world, create some employment and now it's all in jeopardy because a few people aren't happy.

    And 3 of them are already over.

    Maybe 3 more to go. And whats 2 more. Its not as if they're lining streets. They're in the stadium and go home afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭tus.maith


    In a remarkable statement released this evening, Mr Brooks said: "I can’t thank the people of Ireland enough for how welcome they have made me feel.

    "I have faith that Dublin City Council will make the best decision for the people of Ireland.

    "For us, it is five shows or none at all. To choose which shows to do and which shows not to do, would be like asking to choose one child over another. However this plays out, Ireland has my heart and always will," said Garth Brooks.

    - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/garth-brooks-for-us-it-is-five-shows-or-none-at-all-30405764.html#sthash.D8pBCjld.dpuf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,512 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    may I suggest the Garth play the first 3 dates that went on sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    I can’t thank the people of Ireland enough for how welcome they have made me feel. I have faith that Dublin City Council will make the best decision for the people of Ireland. For us, it is five shows or none at all. To choose which shows to do and which shows not to do, would bec. However this plays out, Ireland has my heart and always will," said Garth Brooks.

    - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/garth-brooks-for-us-it-is-five-shows-or-none-at-all-30405764.html#sthash.nvL5cKBm.dpuf


    Doing 3 concerts instead of 5 is not like choosing between your children, Mr. Brooks :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    it will, so they have done the damage to themselves all ready.
    How do you know it will?
    They have done no damage to themselves.
    no, they applied for the eventes licence, and got the majority of the concerts.
    Yes they applied for five and got three. No-one is stating otherwise.
    gigs which they applied for the events licence for
    Yes. Again, no-one is stating otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Smidge wrote: »
    As for mob rule, take a look at the GB fb page and its gives you an idea of the calibre of person who would have been attending these gigs. Shameful stuff.

    I haven't seen it yet but I can just imagine it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭fta93


    Your point was that it was a sporting venue for years and mine was that another purpose was found for it so why not go with it. Just because something is used for one purpose for a time does not mean that it shouldn't be expected that it may be used in other ways. The residents chose to live beside an international sporting venue, they made that choice and it may have been made 40 years ago but when you move to such a place you have to accept that some disruption will come with it.


    I think 5 consecutive days is too much, that's just my view. Maybe Aiken/Croker might have had better outcomes if they kept gigs to, say, weekends. You can't just expect residents to up sticks for a whole week.

    Sporting venue first and foremost, that's what most signed up for. They're not prohibiting all other things, just trying to keep some sane limits to it. Same way Mountcharles limits Slane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Fcuking wankrs saying the €500,000 will softing the blow, yeah that sounds great except tgat works out at €18 a house compared with the €30,000 devalue of the house

    €30,000 devalue? If people have been living there for years before development, hundred of years etc as the bleeding hearts are saying, they they would have gotten the house for peanuts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    miju wrote: »
    Same could be said for the residents feeling entitled to tell 160,000 people where they should or shouldnt get their entertainment

    The residents have an entitlement. They live there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Sala


    Can someone explain to me why extra dates were added with no licence? Is it possible to get a licence, or some kind of preapproval, at an early stage or is there only a certain time period within which they can apply?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Well that's be a mortal sin if none of the concerts went ahead.

    Maybe that cracked aul wan on Joe Duffy will get her wish yet that no one will get a chance to see him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Steam Roller


    Hang croke park but destroy so many people's dreams.
    Miserable dry shower


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    As pointed out before, there are houses near Croke Park that were built before the stadium, now the family's may have changed over the years, but so has Croke Park, so the arguments are pointless.


    Sure they might as well forget about GAA, and just hold concerts every weekend at 3pm - make far more money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    Hang croke park but destroy so many people's dreams.
    Miserable dry shower

    The residents have prevented two gigs going ahead. The big man looks like he's going to stop three.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Ranchu wrote: »
    The residents have an entitlement. They live there.

    Are these houses in the centre of a capital city or not ? As you can't expect a city to stay static and not change around you


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    Ranchu wrote: »
    The residents have an entitlement. They live there.

    So do the residents of Ireland to use a PUBLICY funded facility


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    miju wrote: »
    So do the residents of Ireland to use a PUBLICY funded facility

    Don't be daft. It's a private facility.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    I'd have no problem with events being held there a number of nights a year, in fact I'd welcome it. It would create jobs and bring money into the city and it could even attract some artists I'd like to see live.
    And the artists you wouldn't like to see/hear?
    And people pissing in your lawn?
    And the other residents who don't share your view?
    Why should they? The GAA own it and it's been there for over a hundred years so why should they need permission from people living in the vicinity.
    So what if they own it?
    If a pub wants to stay open till 5am they can just do so because they own the business?
    There are properties that are older than Croker in the area, should their owners dictate to Croker than no concerts should ever take place?


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