Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

vicwatson · 03-07-2014 03:21PM

No planning/permission/no licence CAN MEAN NO CONCERT as we've learned

Personally I would never buy a ticket for a concert until confirmed its confirmed they have planning/permission/licence

Maybe the law should be changed in that they cannot advertise concerts or sell tickets until such permissions are in place, that would solve a lot of the problems

Cart and Horse material

italodisco · 03-07-2014 03:21PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Hahahahahaha, even with all the silly arguments from both sides for or against the concerts, you are by far the funniest guy on the thread.

I'd say you cower in the back room if you hear voices outside on the street, even on an average weekday.

Indeed , you are correct .
The Prince of parsnip alley is not only a genius but an Oracle .

I'm in my living room right now cowering whilst wearing a neon maxi dress and pink heels hun !

Tarzana · 03-07-2014 03:21PM

nm wrote: »

That agreement should be torn up and shoved up the residents holes.

It's unreal that an 80,000 capacity stadium will sit empty while Ireland turn away the biggest acts in the world and all the money that comes with having them over here, all for a few grannies in some poxy residents association.

Ridiculous.

Beautiful. :pac::D

Fr_Dougal · 03-07-2014 03:22PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

And this my friends is exactly the tickets were sold with the magic words "subject to license" written on them. Said it ages ago.

If someone booked a non refunable hotel room to watch a concert that was still subject to license, they were stupid. Especially when, as someone said, you could use booking.com and do it all and cancel it al without costing a penny.

Pretty much all concert tickets are sold subject to licence so booking a non-refundable hotel room is understandable.

Muahahaha · 03-07-2014 03:23PM

miss no stars wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/500k-fund-for-local-projects-in-croke-park-brooks-deal-30388633.html

My bad, the 3 year period in question was 2015-2017.

(On a side note, I wondered when I read that, "why so far into the future?"... Then I realised 2015 is next year. Eep).

That article you linked doesn't mention anything about the residents being offered the next two years (2015-2016) with no concerts. The article only mentions one of Mulveys recommendations was that there would be 9 concerts to be spread over three years from 2017 to 2019 and not 2015-2017 as you claimed above.

I'm still not seeing anywhere that the residents were offered two years concert free and turned it down as you claimed in an earlier post. Can you link to where you read that because if it is the case that the residents refused an offer of two years concert free then I think that changes things significantly.

If you are claiming that then you should either back it up or else withdraw the claim.

03-07-2014 03:24PM

Tarzana wrote: »

So, a me feiner then.

Well you hardly think I'm going to miss a days racing to hang around croke park when I'll have been at the concert the day before.

RFOLEY1990 · 03-07-2014 03:29PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Personally I would never buy a ticket for a concert until confirmed its confirmed they have planning/permission/licence

l

almost impossible to do, given the demand for these concerts, though.

with the aid of glorious hindsight, booking a hotel non refundable was a mistake (there isn't always a free cancellation option on Booking . com and it's usually more expensive) but I don't feel the sense of self righteousness felt by some over people losing their hard earned cash.

nxbyveromdwjpg · 03-07-2014 03:30PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

What relevance to what I said is this?

I never said the residents shouldn't have some form of redress, just that I wouldn't like to see it go as far as is being suggested ie banning concerts outright.

Did I address you? Think you picked me up wrong, I hate what the residents have done here

OldGoat · 03-07-2014 03:32PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Maybe the law should be changed in that they cannot advertise concerts or sell tickets until such permissions are in place, that would solve a lot of the problems

Cart and Horse material

That IS the law as it stands. To promote or advertise an event before license is prohibited. There are several links to the actual statute either in this thread or over in the AH one. (Threads have become very blurred to me at this point)

end of the road · 03-07-2014 03:32PM

ekimiam wrote: »

its greed the locals have a problem with, nothing else.

they should, seeing as they turned down a large amount of money that was offered to them. many businesses in the area make a proffit, whats wrong with that

Muahahaha · 03-07-2014 03:33PM

end of the road wrote: »

the residents wouldn't have accepted it, the GAA weren't greedy, it was simple supply and demand

The GAA weren't greedy, lol, what planet are you living on ? Even GAA members have come out and said they got greedy.
The GAA tried to increase annual concert numbers from 240,000 people a year to 640,000 people a year in one fell swoop, which is an increase of more than 120% and you don't think they got greedy :rolleyes:

lambayire · 03-07-2014 03:33PM

nm wrote: »

Did I address you? Think you picked me up wrong, I hate what the residents have done here

What would you do if you were a resident in the area of Croker?

jibber5000 · 03-07-2014 03:33PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

They are not known as the Grab All Association for nothing.

Did Mick Wallace tell you that one?Really showing a good education there if that lazy stereotype is the best you can come up with

Jamsiek · 03-07-2014 03:33PM

touts wrote: »

I suspect the €500,000 they were offered will be firmly off the table now. They pushed it too far and will end up with nothing but the rest of the country pissed with them.

If you were following the thread you would see that they don't want the money, a lot of people supporting them too.

end of the road · 03-07-2014 03:35PM

Ranchu wrote: »

I've lived in the city all my life and would hate a rural existence. I love the vibrant nightlife and sporting occasions. I live in the shadow of the Aviva and enjoy going to all of Ireland's football home games. No issue with the disruptions it causes.

However there is a line of acceptability. If you can't see that you have a problem. The argument the other way is that people in rural areas want subsidised broadband at the expense of the tax payer. I could say " ah shure they knew they lived in the arsehole of nowhere when they bought their gaff. I'm not paying my tax to further subsidise their services". Now being the reasonable sort I am I have no problem contributing my taxes for projects like that.

There is a line though.

services rural areas get are vital services though, they don't get any luxury services that a town or city might be lucky to get access to

super_furry · 03-07-2014 03:36PM

Lad, relax there's some great alternatives for you hucklebuckers. Big Tom and the Mainliners and Red Hurley are both on tour this summer!

jack presley · 03-07-2014 03:37PM

end of the road wrote: »

services rural areas get are vital services though, they don't get any luxury services that a town or city might be lucky to get access to

Luxury services? Yeah, Ballybough's just like Beverly Hills.

AudreyHepburn · 03-07-2014 03:38PM

nm wrote: »

Did I address you? Think you picked me up wrong, I hate what the residents have done here

Ah ok I took you up wrong do apologies!

Knob Longman · 03-07-2014 03:39PM

In 2014 we couldn't even organise those concerts, That's great progress, Not !!

Maybe Garth should have those concerts up the North..

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/exclusive-fears-grow-that-all-five-garth-brooks-gigs-will-be-cancelled-30404148.html

It would be absolutely hilarious if all of them were cancelled, The bickering and arguing over it is really pathetic and immature.

hynesie08 · 03-07-2014 03:39PM

end of the road wrote: »

services rural areas get are vital services though, they don't get any luxury services that a town or city might be lucky to get access to

No-ones forcing them to live in a rural area.

animaal · 03-07-2014 03:41PM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

How will this effect Sepultura?

Depends. Which night did they buy tickets for?

Valetta · 03-07-2014 03:41PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

No-ones forcing them to live in a rural area.

:):)

asteroids over berlin · 03-07-2014 03:41PM

nice one, 5 consecutive concerts was way too much, 3 is too much in my opinion after the 1d concerts. Anyway, at least the residents were somewhat respected, fair is fair, deal with it.

Chancer3001 · 03-07-2014 03:44PM

Should have paid off the residents

miju · 03-07-2014 03:45PM

beakerjoe wrote: »

How are the residents scum?

How are they not?

end of the road · 03-07-2014 03:46PM

Thoie wrote: »

The residents have compromised by allowing a 3 additional concerts over a weekend.

the residents didn't "compromise by allowing" anything, the council made the decisian in the end, the council could have granted the 5 if they wanted to.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 03-07-2014 03:46PM

A warning, large fine and compensation for the residents would have sufficed here. We are a country with a large deficit and it's a fcuking joke that we are allowing residents to dictate how many concerts can be played at Croke Park. No promises should ever have been made to them to begin with, ever. Other that is, than one regarding the regard for their health and safety whenever concerts are taking place.

Many sport stadiums throughout the world host concerts now, it's just the way it is. Would say the large majority of the people complaining here are just busy bodies with naff all else to do with their time. I hope the decision is appealed and won. Wouldn't please Dublin City Council by applying to play the two nights in the Phoenix Park now either. Malahide Castle / Marley Park are only around 33,000 and so Punchestown would be the only viable solution.

Oh and if I was one of the residents that owned a car, I would be parking else where when the few concerts that got the go ahead are taking place, as wing mirrors are fecking expensive these days.

Steam Roller · 03-07-2014 03:47PM

Such a great venue and it cant used to its full potential.

They dont want anyone in their little town.

The new Chernobyl.

The only good thing Dublin has is the airport.

realdanbreen · 03-07-2014 03:48PM

lambayire wrote: »

What would you do if you were a resident in the area of Croker?

Oh I don't know, maybe something different from the other residents, like get a job, pay taxes, not marry my cousin?

asteroids over berlin · 03-07-2014 03:48PM

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

A warning, large fine and compensation for the residents would have sufficed here. We are a country with a large deficit and it's a fcuking joke that we are allowing residents to dictate how many concerts can be played at Croke Park. No promises should ever have been made to them to begin with, ever. Other that is, than one regarding the regard for their health and safety whenever concerts are taking place.

Many sport stadiums throughout the world host concerts now. The large majority of the people complaining here are just busy bodies with naff all else to do with their time. I hope the decision is appealed and won.

Wouldn't please Dublin City Council by applying to play the two nights in the Phoenix Park now either. Malahide Castle / Marley Park are only around 33,000 and so Punchestown would be the only viable solution.

Oh and if I was one of the residents that owned a car, I would be parking else where when the few concerts that got the go ahead are taking place, as wing mirrors are fecking expensive these days.

Actually you will find that around the world agreements are in place with any residential areas and more to the point, most big stadium are on the outskirts of the cities with decent/top transport!! Hence they could hold many concerts per year but you will notice any old school stadiums in residential areas hold very few concerts!

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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