Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

realdanbreen · 03-07-2014 02:05PM

I can't understand why the residents are making such a fuss over 3 or 5 or whatever numer of concerts. They are still going to be living in a kip for the other 360 days of the year!

hynesie08 · 03-07-2014 02:05PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Well the fact that they already looking for the next two years to be concert free. What's to stop them asking for the next two years after that, and the next two, and the next two?

My main worry with all of this is really just where will it stop?

They've won this victory, what's stop them from going further?

If they enjoy it so much then there wouldn't have been the huge uproar there was.

Exact same argument could be made towards croke park if all 5 licenses were granted?

dharn · 03-07-2014 02:05PM

RFOLEY1990 wrote: »

pack of hoodlums, them Garth Brooks fans.

Lucky it wasn't cradle of filth:cool:

RFOLEY1990 · 03-07-2014 02:05PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I'm just waiting for the inevitable "blame the bankers" shout

urabell · 03-07-2014 02:05PM

zefer wrote: »

I think the hoteliers have some cheek with that statement in the indo. What about them doubling the price of hotel rooms for those few nights?? Nothing in that statement about the damage that does to the reputation, rip off ireland at its best

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

It only damages their reputation with morons, they probably don't care.

Santa Cruz · 03-07-2014 02:06PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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"cluchie interests" WTF
Of course when you are happy to live on welfare you have no great interest in anything that might create employment even of a temporary nature

AudreyHepburn · 03-07-2014 02:06PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Exact same argument could be made towards croke park if all 5 licenses were granted?

Absolutely it could.

Which is precisely why I don't want to see either side win this outright.

I'd prefer some kind of compromise.

Penn · 03-07-2014 02:06PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Well the fact that they already looking for the next two years to be concert free. What's to stop them asking for the next two years after that, and the next two, and the next two?

My main worry with all of this is really just where will it stop?

They've won this victory, what's stop them from going further?

If they enjoy it so much then there wouldn't have been the huge uproar there was.

Same can be said for the opposite though. If Aiken and the GAA got their extra concerts this year, what's to stop them from having the same next year? Or more the year after that.

The reed that doesn't bend, breaks. But the reed that bends too much is already broken.

zefer · 03-07-2014 02:06PM

urabell wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

It only damages their reputation with morons, they probably don't care.

I love when people use the supply & demand link to wiki, real intelligent.. :rolleyes:

Barely There · 03-07-2014 02:07PM

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Irishcrx wrote: »

I'd hate to see property damaged in the area but there is a chance that is going to happen Garda presence will have to ramped up for the 3 gigs.

If posters on this thread are anyway representative of the GB fanbase there's probably a good chance all right.

Irishcrx wrote: »

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Frankly f*** the residents, .

AudreyHepburn · 03-07-2014 02:07PM

Penn wrote: »

Same can be said for the opposite though. If Aiken and the GAA got their extra concerts this year, what's to stop them from having the same next year? Or more the year after that.

The reed that doesn't bend, breaks. But the reed that bends too much is already broken.

As I said above, I know that and agree.

A compromise is whats needed here, not outright victory for one side or the other.

stooge · 03-07-2014 02:08PM

tickets still being sold on ticketmaster website for Monday and Tuesday.

beakerjoe · 03-07-2014 02:08PM

It was the bankers i tells ya, they started this mess!

tayto lover · 03-07-2014 02:10PM

The pubs, chippers, shops and hotels in the area are not going to be happy about this. The residents of the area will though.
Plus Ticketmaster probably have already taken their share of the money from the account.
We will not hear the end of this for many a day.

urabell · 03-07-2014 02:11PM

zefer wrote: »

I love when people use the supply & demand link to wiki, real intelligent.. :rolleyes:

Tell me why supply and demand doesn't apply here. And if you're going to sarcastically call someone intelligent try to do it without modifying an adjective with another adjective.

DrumSteve · 03-07-2014 02:12PM

Got standing tickets there for the Sunday night.

I have to admit though, I'm kind of with the residents on this one. The GAA reneged on a deal they made so they were dead right to do what they did and want to cancel some of them.

They stuck a bunch of dates on figuring they would be given the licence and it backfired.

end of the road · 03-07-2014 02:12PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0703/628237-garth-brooks/

I also note here that residents are demanding that no concerts be held in Croker for the next two years.

Now that really is going to far imo.

Surely it should be enough for promoters to just adhered to three nights as originally agreed?

its a few hardcore extremists is all, not much sympathy for the residents outside hear it seems, even some residents don't have sympathy for the objectors

smileyj1987 · 03-07-2014 02:14PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

And now the sob stories of people travelling crazy distances.

Ah the poor Garth brooks fans . It's such hardship not being able to see him play live .

SeanW · 03-07-2014 02:14PM

Paulie1987 wrote: »

How is it moronic?..I never said there would not be disruption. It's for 5 days is what I said. I acknowledge there is disruption but the situation is what it is. Allowing for the gigs to go ahead on this one occasion seems the most ethical thing to do while also acknowledging that they should not allow 8 or 9 gigs a year again.

There is no need for a "once off" in fact I'd say if this had not been challenged the "3 concerts a year" rule would have been forgotten.

Everyone knew the rules in advance. 3 concerts a year. There was never any confusion. After the 3 1D concerts that should have been it for the year. Everything after that was a simple case of the GAA taking the piss. No more and no less.

Well I'd notice an 80,000 seater stadium if it was down the street from me and think emmm it might be busy around here sometimes...so il move somewhere that does not have the biggest stadium in the country on my doorstep ..You know what you are getting yourself into by living close to it.

Croke Park has been there for a long time, but the redeveloped stadium and the concerts are somewhat newer.

AudreyHepburn · 03-07-2014 02:14PM

end of the road wrote: »

its a few hardcore extremists is all, not much sympathy for the residents outside hear it seems, even some residents don't have sympathy for the objectors

Oh don't get me wrong, I do have sympathy for them, the utmost sympathy.

I just think this whole thing is going to end up being taken a bit too far.

end of the road · 03-07-2014 02:15PM

Rightwing wrote: »

The residents should try and put the boot into the GAA whilst they have them on the ropes.

and hopefully the GAA will fight back and brootley make those few hardcore extremists pay hard

hoodwinked · 03-07-2014 02:15PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

As for the "don't live by a stadium" attitude, well that has some merit. I personally checked every possible development that may occur when I bought my place.
But I don't think that the residents were ever informed of possibly 8 concerts occurring, along with the continuous increase of games that get moved to Croke Park.
At a certain point the residents have to take a stand or they'll just be trampled over.

i think more so an agreement should be reached that now states anyone who has bought and rented in the area from here on out has to agree that ANY amount of concerts and gigs may be conducted there and accept as a given if you want to live on the doorstep of a stadium, as the elderly residents die out this will cease to be an issue, and the GAA can use their private venue as they wish.

i personally think it should be retrospectively applied to when the first concert happened there if as said that was in the 80's,

lets be honest, if this was a case of you buying a house next to an airport with only 5 flights a week, you have to surely know that in the morning an airline could say, "we are going to use that airport" and suddenly you are dealing with 10 flights a week. or at least you'd be wary of the fact it was going to get busier, especially if they were doing it up.

anyone who bought or rented in the area "not expecting extra games/gigs" is an idiot to think they were going to redevelop the stadium and not try to use it more.

AudreyHepburn · 03-07-2014 02:15PM

zefer wrote: »

I love when people use the supply & demand link to wiki, real intelligent.. :rolleyes:

But Supply and Demand is exactly what caused this whole mess, is it not?

realdanbreen · 03-07-2014 02:16PM

This fiasco wouldn't have happened if Bertie Ahern was still in power- now there was a Dub that got things done!

end of the road · 03-07-2014 02:18PM

El Horseboxo wrote: »

It's not grannies in a residents association. My sister in law lives about a 15 minute walk from Croke Park and during the one direction concerts she was coming home with her child that's still in a stroller while also pregnant again. The closest she could park to her house involved almost an hours walk. I think it was beyond Fairview she had to park.

nobody forced her or is forcing her to live near croke park

anncoates · 03-07-2014 02:18PM

Irishcrx wrote: »

And I don't think it will get any better , I'd hate to see property damaged in the area but there is a chance that is going to happen Garda presence will have to ramped up for the 3 gigs.

All these passive aggressive threats on residents and their property is really showing some people in a nice light.

If anybody actually does make good on the keyboard threats hopefully they be caught: either be the Gardai or just kicked back down to the sticks to rum amok at their bogball wars where they belong.

dharn · 03-07-2014 02:18PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

This fiasco wouldn't have happened if Bertie Ahern was still in power- now there was a Dub that got things done!

NOW THERE WAS A REAL COWBOY

Diabhal Beag · 03-07-2014 02:21PM

"You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
You never count your tickets
When you're sittin' at the 'puter
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the concert license is done"

Wise words

hynesie08 · 03-07-2014 02:21PM

end of the road wrote: »

nobody forced her or is forcing her to live near croke park

So where should the line be drawn as to near croke park? 10 mins, 20, 30? What about people in phibsboro? Glasnevin? East wall?

end of the road · 03-07-2014 02:22PM

baldbear wrote: »

Dont be silly. Why not have 30 gigs there a year so and forget the 2009 agreement which the gaa agreed to where no more than 3 gigs would be held there a year.

no more then 3 concerts before applying for an events licence, the agreement was honoured

baldbear wrote: »

5 nights in a row was complete greed and arrogance on the gaa and MCDS behalf & took no consideration of the locals.

no its not, residents were consulted, very few objected

Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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