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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • #3842
    Chance The Rapper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Chance The Rapper


    Big Shute if that happens


  • #3843
    justsomebloke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Chance The Rapper wrote: »
    Surely the promoters should be getting the blame rather than the GAA

    Well are the GAA not the ones with the agreement with the residents? so they should of only allowed the promoter have concerts on the appropriate amount of nights.

    Obviously DCC have to answer why this decision was only made with 3 weeks to go to the concert thus making any chance of making 'alternative' arrangements impossible (ye I know there couldn't of been a plan B but still).


  • #3844
    Paulie1987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Paulie1987


    Titzon Toast wrote: »
    5 nights is not true, there would be major disruption for days before and after the gigs.
    And for the last time. The residents where NOT after money.

    I appreciate that money is not the motivating factor but an acknowledgement of wrong doing on the promotors part. Compassion is important though because I'm sure the residents will rely on the goodwill of some of the people attending these gigs in the future and making an exception on this one occasion would be the best thing to do


  • #3845
    nxbyveromdwjpg
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    That agreement should be torn up and shoved up the residents holes.

    It's unreal that an 80,000 capacity stadium will sit empty while Ireland turn away the biggest acts in the world and all the money that comes with having them over here, all for a few grannies in some poxy residents association.

    Ridiculous.


  • #3846
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Fair enough. I stand by my point though.

    The GAA are not to blame, Supply and Demand is to blame.

    The GAA created the supply problem when they decided to tear up their agreement and opt for greed instead by announcing 5 concerts without even consulting the residents.
    Delighted for the greedy bastárds.


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  • #3847
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    wyndham wrote: »
    Expect action in the High Court this afternoon.

    Not a chance.


  • #3848
    lambayire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭lambayire


    Do the residents get any money directly handed to them or is it by way of tickets?

    And how far does the catchment area go from Croker?


  • #3849
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    The whole episode looks bad. Amateurs all round.

    Brooks won't cancel the other 3 though. He's much too clever for that. ;)


  • #3850
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    No I'll go to the 7 days of the Galway races now instead of 6 ;)

    Good to know you're just full of hot air and it's fine to ignore you so.:)


  • #3851
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0703/628237-garth-brooks/

    I also note here that residents are demanding that no concerts be held in Croker for the next two years.

    Now that really is going to far imo.

    Surely it should be enough for promoters to just adhered to three nights as originally agreed?


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  • #3852
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,200 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Fair enough. I stand by my point though.

    The GAA are not to blame, Supply and Demand is to blame.

    It is 100% on the owners of CP. They used up they're allocation of 3 events without needing a license with 1D. As soon as GB was announced (Jan 14 i think) they should have immediately set about getting license approval. They tried to be cute whoorees about it and it looks like it's biten them on the ass.

    I feel for the genuine fans but this was never about the fans or Gb. It's about CP acting the goat , which they've admitted.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #3853
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,084 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    lambayire wrote: »
    Do the residents get any money directly handed to them or is it by way of tickets?

    And how far does the catchment area go from Croker?

    They get an allocation of tickets I think but nowhere near enough for every affected resident.


  • #3854
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    I just bought tickets for the Sunday night the second I heard the others were cancelled ;):D

    GLad you got tickets, but it does seem very lazy of the organisers to make them available like that.
    Why did they not hold them back and make the extra tickets available for those who have tickets for the cancelled gigs on first come first served basis?


  • #3855
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0703/628237-garth-brooks/

    I also note here that residents are demanding that no concerts be held in Croker for the next two years.

    Now that really is going to far imo.

    Surely it should be enough for promoters to just adhered to three nights as originally agreed?

    The residents should try and put the boot into the GAA whilst they have them on the ropes.


  • #3856
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,200 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    justsomebloke wrote: »
    Well are the GAA not the ones with the agreement with the residents? so they should of only allowed the promoter have concerts on the appropriate amount of nights.

    Obviously DCC have to answer why this decision was only made with 3 weeks to go to the concert thus making any chance of making 'alternative' arrangements impossible (ye I know there couldn't of been a plan B but still).

    I would imagine if the GAA had of applied earlier for a license instead of waiting for the 10 week deadline then a decision like this could have been offset with a Plan B option. They've know since January that a license was needed, even if they were only hold 1 concert.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #3857
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,533 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    Build another one


    I really think we are going to see this in court. Residents look gung ho in trying to get them stopped. I'm sure Aiken are looking at an injunctions to the residents.

    DCC have a lot to answer for leaving it so late.
    croke park, have more money, access to the best lawyers, could run rings around the few hardcore residents no problem

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  • #3858
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Anyone know whats happening with refunds?

    I know they'll keep the booking fee.


  • #3859
    Skid X
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91109962&postcount=3297
    Atavan-Halen wrote: »
    There's still some tickets left on ticketmaster for the Sunday, just got 2 there as I have 2 tickets for the Tuesday. Figured I'd get the Sunday ones just in case!

    Worth a try for anyone who had Monday or Tuesday tickets.


  • #3860
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,374 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    lambayire wrote: »
    Do the residents get any money directly handed to them or is it by way of tickets?

    And how far does the catchment area go from Croker?

    The residents don't get money.
    The catchment area certainly doesn't extend as far as North Strand and Fairview who have to deal with most of the parking issues.


  • #3861
    El Horseboxo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    nm wrote: »
    That agreement should be torn up and shoved up the residents holes.

    It's unreal that an 80,000 capacity stadium will sit empty while Ireland turn away the biggest acts in the world and all the money that comes with having them over here, all for a few grannies in some poxy residents association.

    Ridiculous.

    It's not grannies in a residents association. My sister in law lives about a 15 minute walk from Croke Park and during the one direction concerts she was coming home with her child that's still in a stroller while also pregnant again. The closest she could park to her house involved almost an hours walk. I think it was beyond Fairview she had to park.


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  • #3862
    Caliden
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    Rightwing wrote: »
    The whole episode looks bad. Amateurs all round.

    Brooks won't cancel the other 3 though. He's much too clever in need of cash for that. ;)


    Corrected your post.


  • #3863
    [Deleted User]
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    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    GLad you got tickets, but it does seem very lazy of the organisers to make them available like that.
    Why did they not hold them back and make the extra tickets available for those who have tickets for the cancelled gigs on first come first served basis?

    They were probably available over the last while, I don't think its anything to do with today's announcement but I just chanced my arm for the sunday and tickets were available. They are probably the ones that were released when they would know the final stages size etc and premium ones that the seat owners didn't want.


  • #3864
    ahnowbrowncow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    nm wrote: »
    That agreement should be torn up and shoved up the residents holes.

    It's unreal that an 80,000 capacity stadium will sit empty while Ireland turn away the biggest acts in the world and all the money that comes with having them over here, all for a few grannies in some poxy residents association.

    Ridiculous.

    What money comes from having Garth Brooks here?

    If anything it takes money out of our economy.


  • #3865
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Not a fan of "residents association" types, curtain twitchers and killjoys to a man. But even less of a fan of promoters like aiken and mcd who do the bear minimum in terms of transport/facilities.


  • #3866
    SeanW
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    Paulie1987 wrote: »
    It's obviously a one off..it's unprecedented demand not likely to be repeated ever again. What's 5 days in these peoples lives??. The comments here would leave you to be believe these people only get satisfaction at the misfortune of others. I wonder what they do for fun tbh
    What an utterly moronic statement. I was in the Drumcondra area for the 1 direction concerts, the place which is normally rather quiet, becomes a hellhole when there's concerts on. Cars clogging every legal and illegal place to park, way beyond anything the area is even remotely capable of providing, massive crowds all over the place, and it's just not equipped to handle any of it.

    These concerts should have been held at the O2, or Aviva, or failing that, been marketed as a "music festival" and run out in a field in Slane or something.

    But since you think these concerts are so great, why don't we have an 80000+ person event down the street from your house? It should be a blast?

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  • #3867
    tigger123
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    end of the road wrote: »
    croke park, have more money, access to the best lawyers, could run rings around the few hardcore residents no problem

    Croke Park don't give permission for the concerts to go ahead, Dublin City Council do.

    You can't sue a license out of DCC, they don't have to grant anything.


  • #3868
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,721 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    So even Brooks was denied 5 in a row in the last minute at Croker.

    EVENFLOW



  • #3869
    baldbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭baldbear


    nm wrote: »
    That agreement should be torn up and shoved up the residents holes.

    It's unreal that an 80,000 capacity stadium will sit empty while Ireland turn away the biggest acts in the world and all the money that comes with having them over here, all for a few grannies in some poxy residents association.


    Ridiculous.

    Dont be silly. Why not have 30 gigs there a year so and forget the 2009 agreement which the gaa agreed to where no more than 3 gigs would be held there a year.

    5 nights in a row was complete greed and arrogance on the gaa and MCDS behalf & took no consideration of the locals.

    Tickets should not be sold until licences are agreed on.


  • #3870
    Paulie1987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Paulie1987


    JRant wrote: »
    Does. Not. Compute.

    An airport is a piece of infrastructure. Croke Park is an asset belonging to a private organisation. Therefore any comparison is pure bunk.

    I would also like to call you up on the BS claim about the RA being offered money and using it to go on holidays. Never happened and you're just making stuff up.

    Ownership or it's purposes are irrelevant simple man. Residents are concerned with the disruption pure and simple. A concert lasting a few days although frustrating goes away after a few days. I don't know many residents are affected but it's bad form to deprive 160,000 people of a bit of happiness for a couple of nights. Seems very cold hearted IMO.

    The residents were offered money were they not?


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  • #3871
    pc7
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    ahnowbrowncow wrote: »
    What money comes from having Garth Brooks here?

    If anything it takes money out of our economy.

    Busy airports, restaurants, hotels, pubs, hairdressers, beauty salons, buses/taxis to name a few! It was huge for the city and country.


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