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KKK flags flies in Belfast

  • 02-07-2014 08:25AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭


    A Ku Klux Klan flag has been placed in an area of Belfast at the centre of a recent surge in racist attacks in the city.

    There has been a spike in racist attacks in Belfast, with the Police Service of Northern Ireland confirming its officers are investigating up to three racist incidents every day. A large proportion of racist attacks and intimidation is taking place in the loyalist east.

    The Alliance party MP said the appearance of a KKK flag off Island Street in the east of the city gives "an even more sinister edge" to xenophobic attacks in the area.

    Long said: "Yet again we see those who wish to bully anyone different from them use flags and emblems to assert dominance and control over a community. To put up these flags in broad daylight shows just how brazen the culprits are.

    "To use flags hailing a hate group such as the KKK is sickening and lends a further menacing element to recent events. It is essential that every right-thinking person unites against those who engage in racist, bigoted or otherwise intolerant behaviour and does so with consistency."

    Over the last year Northern Ireland has become one of the worst hot spots for racist crimes and race-hate-linked incidents in the UK, but the authors of the report say the region is home to only 1% of all the non-EU/EEA migrants who have come into the UK.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/01/ku-klux-klan-flag-erected-east-belfast-racist-tensions


    As well as every other flag we now have the KKK flying here !

    I suppose it's just a one off as there is never much trouble up here about Flags or banners before ! ! !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    Time to invest in washing powder shares…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    realies wrote: »

    I suppose it's just a one off as there is never much trouble up here about Flags or banners before ! ! !

    It's actually a 'fleg'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    A large proportion of racist attacks and intimidation is taking place in the loyalist east.

    Find that hard to believe. Its not like they have a history of intolerance to other cultures :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Christ,the irony here is gas.Blow-ins not wanting other blow-ins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Are they Catholic foreigners or protestant foreigners?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,481 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Christ,the irony here is gas.Blow-ins not wanting other blow-ins.

    I think everyone in the history of the world is a blow in to be fair.

    There seems to be people driving this disgusting racism in East Belfast, probably elements of the UVF involved in a power struggle and who are exploiting people to do their dirty work. I've said it before and have been shot down by others here who dont actually live in the area but the majority of people in East Belfast want nothing to do with this nonsense.

    The flags were taken down pretty quickly but they should NEVER have been put up in then first place. Any form of racism is disgusting and any connotation with the KKK is all the note sinister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Is it the Southern Cross flag Cork people use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    Is it the Southern Cross flag Cork people use?

    The American Confederate flag used to be fairly popular with Cork GAA fans (perhaps it still is), but probably more to do with the fact that it's mostly red and they are known as the Rebel County, rather than any association with the racist connotations.

    FYI The Southern Cross is the name of the constellation depicted on the Australian and New Zealand flags. I'm not sure the phrase is ever used to identify the cross of stars on the Confederate flag.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bigotry in July? Well I never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The American Confederate flag used to be fairly popular with Cork GAA fans (perhaps it still is), but probably more to do with the fact that it's mostly red and they are known as the Rebel County, rather than any association with the racist connotations.

    FYI The Southern Cross is the name of the constellation depicted on the Australian and New Zealand flags. I'm not sure the phrase is ever used to identify the cross of stars on the Confederate flag.

    To be a pedant, it's the Confederate Navy Jack that's most commonly used.
    There used be (prob still is) a smattering of WW2 era Japanese Rising Sun flags by Cork GAA fans, they're probably oblivious to the dark history of both designs...they're just considered 'cool' flags I suppose.

    The flag in Belfast is a blue KKK design based about a Nazi type 'Reichsadler' eagle. Def. not cool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    It's actually a 'fleg'.

    Only if it's being flown upside-down ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Well, at least they're finally being honest about what they stand for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Your life must really suck if you actually have to end up immigrating to Norn Iron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/linfield-shop-sign-tricolour-is-ivory-coast-not-republic-of-ireland-flag-30357592.html


    This is caliber of people you're dealing with. Its backwards NI is going, I despair for it. I love Belfast and spend quite a lot of time up there. Vast majority just want to get on with their lives, but these knuckledraggers are adamant that a shared society is not the way forward.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Your life must really suck if you actually have to end up immigrating to Norn Iron.
    Don't you mean emigrating? :pac:

    I don't mind Norn Iron, as a lot of people have said already, these people are very much in the minority nowadays. I'd much rather move to Belfast than Dublin anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    To be a pedant, it's the Confederate Navy Jack that's most commonly used.
    There used be (prob still is) a smattering of WW2 era Japanese Rising Sun flags by Cork GAA fans, they're probably oblivious to the dark history of both designs...they're just considered 'cool' flags I suppose.

    I remember watching Cork games on the television when I was a kid and there were usually numerous examples of each. It was always seen as a positive thing, this being in the days before wearing county jerseys/hats etc was ubiquitous in the stands, so they added a bit of colour to the occasions. Never any question about the dark history of these flags as I recall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I remember watching Cork games on the television when I was a kid and there were usually numerous examples of each. It was always seen as a positive thing, this being in the days before wearing county jerseys/hats etc was ubiquitous in the stands, so they added a bit of colour to the occasions. Never any question about the dark history of these flags as I recall.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/rebel-fans-rebel-against-flag-ban-calls-160301.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I remember watching Cork games on the television when I was a kid and there were usually numerous examples of each. It was always seen as a positive thing, this being in the days before wearing county jerseys/hats etc was ubiquitous in the stands, so they added a bit of colour to the occasions. Never any question about the dark history of these flags as I recall.

    It's used to represent the underdog, as in The Lost Cause Of The Confederacahhh, as well as right-and-proper Southern sovereignty, y'all! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    realies wrote: »
    KKK flags flies in Belfast

    Since KKK members have attended the 12th celebrations in the past, this should come as no surprise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Is it the Southern Cross flag Cork people use?

    No,this is the flag they used.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/kkk-flag-belfast-1549600-Jul2014/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    They do love a flag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    I suppose the flag of this anti-semitic organisation was flying next to the flag of Israel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭neamhspleachi


    It's the flag of the 'New Order Knights of the KKK', an even more extreme offshoot of the nefarious society


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 F7Z


    Jaysus the north must be a right ****hole. The south east and west too but thats beside the point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    F7Z wrote: »
    Jaysus the north must be a right ****hole. The south east and west too but thats beside the point

    Some say south eastern northern Ireland is a nice place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    F7Z wrote: »
    Jaysus the north must be a right ****hole. The south east and west too but thats beside the point

    There is always one :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Except its not the IRA, its the other ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.

    Epic fail.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.

    ^^ wow


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