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KKK flags flies in Belfast

  • 02-07-2014 7:25am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭


    A Ku Klux Klan flag has been placed in an area of Belfast at the centre of a recent surge in racist attacks in the city.

    There has been a spike in racist attacks in Belfast, with the Police Service of Northern Ireland confirming its officers are investigating up to three racist incidents every day. A large proportion of racist attacks and intimidation is taking place in the loyalist east.

    The Alliance party MP said the appearance of a KKK flag off Island Street in the east of the city gives "an even more sinister edge" to xenophobic attacks in the area.

    Long said: "Yet again we see those who wish to bully anyone different from them use flags and emblems to assert dominance and control over a community. To put up these flags in broad daylight shows just how brazen the culprits are.

    "To use flags hailing a hate group such as the KKK is sickening and lends a further menacing element to recent events. It is essential that every right-thinking person unites against those who engage in racist, bigoted or otherwise intolerant behaviour and does so with consistency."

    Over the last year Northern Ireland has become one of the worst hot spots for racist crimes and race-hate-linked incidents in the UK, but the authors of the report say the region is home to only 1% of all the non-EU/EEA migrants who have come into the UK.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/01/ku-klux-klan-flag-erected-east-belfast-racist-tensions


    As well as every other flag we now have the KKK flying here !

    I suppose it's just a one off as there is never much trouble up here about Flags or banners before ! ! !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    Time to invest in washing powder shares…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    realies wrote: »

    I suppose it's just a one off as there is never much trouble up here about Flags or banners before ! ! !

    It's actually a 'fleg'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    A large proportion of racist attacks and intimidation is taking place in the loyalist east.

    Find that hard to believe. Its not like they have a history of intolerance to other cultures :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Christ,the irony here is gas.Blow-ins not wanting other blow-ins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Are they Catholic foreigners or protestant foreigners?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Christ,the irony here is gas.Blow-ins not wanting other blow-ins.

    I think everyone in the history of the world is a blow in to be fair.

    There seems to be people driving this disgusting racism in East Belfast, probably elements of the UVF involved in a power struggle and who are exploiting people to do their dirty work. I've said it before and have been shot down by others here who dont actually live in the area but the majority of people in East Belfast want nothing to do with this nonsense.

    The flags were taken down pretty quickly but they should NEVER have been put up in then first place. Any form of racism is disgusting and any connotation with the KKK is all the note sinister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Is it the Southern Cross flag Cork people use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    Is it the Southern Cross flag Cork people use?

    The American Confederate flag used to be fairly popular with Cork GAA fans (perhaps it still is), but probably more to do with the fact that it's mostly red and they are known as the Rebel County, rather than any association with the racist connotations.

    FYI The Southern Cross is the name of the constellation depicted on the Australian and New Zealand flags. I'm not sure the phrase is ever used to identify the cross of stars on the Confederate flag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Bigotry in July? Well I never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The American Confederate flag used to be fairly popular with Cork GAA fans (perhaps it still is), but probably more to do with the fact that it's mostly red and they are known as the Rebel County, rather than any association with the racist connotations.

    FYI The Southern Cross is the name of the constellation depicted on the Australian and New Zealand flags. I'm not sure the phrase is ever used to identify the cross of stars on the Confederate flag.

    To be a pedant, it's the Confederate Navy Jack that's most commonly used.
    There used be (prob still is) a smattering of WW2 era Japanese Rising Sun flags by Cork GAA fans, they're probably oblivious to the dark history of both designs...they're just considered 'cool' flags I suppose.

    The flag in Belfast is a blue KKK design based about a Nazi type 'Reichsadler' eagle. Def. not cool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    It's actually a 'fleg'.

    Only if it's being flown upside-down ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Well, at least they're finally being honest about what they stand for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Your life must really suck if you actually have to end up immigrating to Norn Iron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/linfield-shop-sign-tricolour-is-ivory-coast-not-republic-of-ireland-flag-30357592.html


    This is caliber of people you're dealing with. Its backwards NI is going, I despair for it. I love Belfast and spend quite a lot of time up there. Vast majority just want to get on with their lives, but these knuckledraggers are adamant that a shared society is not the way forward.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Your life must really suck if you actually have to end up immigrating to Norn Iron.
    Don't you mean emigrating? :pac:

    I don't mind Norn Iron, as a lot of people have said already, these people are very much in the minority nowadays. I'd much rather move to Belfast than Dublin anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    To be a pedant, it's the Confederate Navy Jack that's most commonly used.
    There used be (prob still is) a smattering of WW2 era Japanese Rising Sun flags by Cork GAA fans, they're probably oblivious to the dark history of both designs...they're just considered 'cool' flags I suppose.

    I remember watching Cork games on the television when I was a kid and there were usually numerous examples of each. It was always seen as a positive thing, this being in the days before wearing county jerseys/hats etc was ubiquitous in the stands, so they added a bit of colour to the occasions. Never any question about the dark history of these flags as I recall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I remember watching Cork games on the television when I was a kid and there were usually numerous examples of each. It was always seen as a positive thing, this being in the days before wearing county jerseys/hats etc was ubiquitous in the stands, so they added a bit of colour to the occasions. Never any question about the dark history of these flags as I recall.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/rebel-fans-rebel-against-flag-ban-calls-160301.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I remember watching Cork games on the television when I was a kid and there were usually numerous examples of each. It was always seen as a positive thing, this being in the days before wearing county jerseys/hats etc was ubiquitous in the stands, so they added a bit of colour to the occasions. Never any question about the dark history of these flags as I recall.

    It's used to represent the underdog, as in The Lost Cause Of The Confederacahhh, as well as right-and-proper Southern sovereignty, y'all! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    realies wrote: »
    KKK flags flies in Belfast

    Since KKK members have attended the 12th celebrations in the past, this should come as no surprise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Is it the Southern Cross flag Cork people use?

    No,this is the flag they used.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/kkk-flag-belfast-1549600-Jul2014/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    They do love a flag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    I suppose the flag of this anti-semitic organisation was flying next to the flag of Israel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭neamhspleachi


    It's the flag of the 'New Order Knights of the KKK', an even more extreme offshoot of the nefarious society


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 F7Z


    Jaysus the north must be a right ****hole. The south east and west too but thats beside the point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    F7Z wrote: »
    Jaysus the north must be a right ****hole. The south east and west too but thats beside the point

    Some say south eastern northern Ireland is a nice place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    F7Z wrote: »
    Jaysus the north must be a right ****hole. The south east and west too but thats beside the point

    There is always one :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Except its not the IRA, its the other ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.

    Epic fail.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.

    ^^ wow


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.

    I agree, Bobby Sands should be the president of Northern Ireland again to stamp out the IRA.

    Chucky our law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    To be a pedant, it's the Confederate Navy Jack that's most commonly used.
    There used be (prob still is) a smattering of WW2 era Japanese Rising Sun flags by Cork GAA fans, they're probably oblivious to the dark history of both designs...they're just considered 'cool' flags I suppose.

    The flag in Belfast is a blue KKK design based about a Nazi type 'Reichsadler' eagle. Def. not cool.
    Jesus Cork people are idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Those protestants.. up to no good as usual


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Jesus Cork people are idiots.

    Sometimes I think we should just give them their republic for the sake of everybody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭Umadbrah?


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.

    It's in loyalist areas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Umadbrah? wrote: »
    It's in loyalist areas.

    Don't **** in your own back yard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Typical sh1te coming from the Loyalist troglodytes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    I thought the KKK were just as intolerent to Protestants as well as Catholics and that anyone from Britain and/or Ireland do not fit in to the upper class of Ayran they're looking for their ranks.

    Memo to self, set up pillow case store in Belfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    ...WW2 era Japanese Rising Sun flags by Cork GAA fans, they're probably oblivious to the dark history of both designs...they're just considered 'cool' flags I suppose.

    The Rising Sun flag is used as the Japanese Naval ensign, and for the military generally. It is true that it is considered offensive in some jurisdictions that were subject to Japanese war crimes, but I personally enjoy the fact that it pisses off the Chinese. :D

    The national flag of Japan has the same Sun emblem but no red bars. It is also used in Caaark to indicate the presence of a curry-house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Plazaman wrote: »
    I thought the KKK were just as intolerent to Protestants as well as Catholics and that anyone from Britain and/or Ireland do not fit in to the upper class of Ayran they're looking for their ranks.

    Memo to self, set up pillow case store in Belfast.

    A lot of people would have been of Ulster scots extraction in the southern states when the Klan was at it's peak. Catholics weren't allowed to join until the 1970s when their membership began to rapidly decline.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    A lot of people would have been of Ulster scots extraction in the southern states when the Klan was at it's peak. Catholics weren't allowed to join until the 1970s when their membership began to rapidly decline.


    You know things are bad when ye have to let papists in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭conor2469


    Plazaman wrote: »
    I thought the KKK were just as intolerent to Protestants....

    Nope, once you're white protestant you're golden afaik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Paisley made a tour of the southern states to raise money some years back, he spoke in the KKK halls and arenas, when the press got wind of it he cancelled the remainder of the tour and hightailed it back to the occupied counties.
    Nothing new in the contacts between Loyal blood and the KKK. Let them fly their fleg, they are only making fools of themselves, which is nothing new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Joe Duffy..


    So the P.S.N.I take down the KKK flag, yet leave the UVF and UDA flags flying. Should of taken the lot down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    jimgoose wrote: »
    The national flag of Japan has the same Sun emblem but no red bars. It is also used in Caaark to indicate the presence of a curry-house.
    Because it's what your arse looks like the morning after one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Just so everyone is clear, the fleg no longer flies.....
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-28103319

    Elsewhere however, the welcoming atmosphere has become warmer...
    https://twitter.com/kellynoelle0/status/484088407271174144


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Jesus Cork people are idiots.

    Cork people are actually witty raconteurs who are unreal at sports and also attractive to women.

    The flag stuff at GAA matches is a bit unfortunate though. I'm waiting for the day someone brings along a swastika flag "cos it's red and white like".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    The IRA is sick of having no Protestants to attack so they've changed their agenda to attacking people with different passports.

    They'll have to change their name to the Irish Racist Army now.

    Am going to see Mrs Browns Boys tonight. Hope I haven't maxed out my lol quota for the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Duiske wrote: »
    Am going to see Mrs Browns Boys tonight. Hope I haven't maxed out my lol quota for the day.

    That wouldn't make the foggiest of difference on the quota front if that's what you're going to see. Absolute tripe.


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