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100 years to the day

  • 28-06-2014 06:42PM
    #1
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,735 ✭✭✭✭


    ... Since Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated. Havent seen a thread here in AH, worth taking a few moments to remember the past and the chain of events following the assassination.


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  • #2
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Who


  • #3
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    He was just a patsy with an iron will and a steady hand. The leader of Black Hand had more responsibility yet nobody knows his name.

    WW1 would have happened anyway. Just look at the figures for the armaments industry.


  • #4
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    "I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich coz he was hungry."


  • #5
    Grandpa Hassan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    The kaiser would have found another excuse to mobilise, for sure. Was only a matter of time


  • #6
    Divergent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭Divergent


    Chain of events?


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  • #7
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Ironically, He may have killed the best friend of Serbian autonomy, Franz Ferdinand, was certainly not a "typical" royal, nor even in favour with his own family.


  • #8
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    RIP and condolences to all his friends and family.


  • #9
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    The kaiser would have found another excuse to mobilise, for sure. Was only a matter of time

    There was already a shortage of Krupp shell delivery to Belgium, many months before the war.


  • #10
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    RIP and condolences to all his friends and family.

    And to all of us living in the broken world they left behind, European unity, middle eastern mayhem, lunacy in Germany and the smoking stacks of Auschwitz all originate to this fateful shot.

    Gavrilo, you crazy diamond.


  • #11
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Not fond of the band really but RIP.


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  • #12
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I'm still waiting on my Great Uncle Frank to come back from the Somme.


  • #13
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    corner of hells wrote: »
    I'm still waiting on my Great Uncle Frank to come back from the Somme.

    He's been gone awhile, somme man.


  • #14
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Maybe it was necessary? It a single death can cause such government sponsored mass murderous mayhem, then the world is unbalanced and would have wobbled like a drunkard into an abyss anyway. Maybe even worse. Who can say? Perhaps necessary?


  • #15
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    corner of hells wrote: »
    I'm still waiting on my Great Uncle Frank to come back from the Somme.

    Great Uncle Frank!


  • #16
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    A brave Yugoslav patriot.


  • #17
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    HerrScheisse wrote: »
    He was just a patsy with an iron will and a steady hand. The leader of Black Hand had more responsibility yet nobody knows his name.

    WW1 would have happened anyway. Just look at the figures for the armaments industry.

    Too soon man, too soon.


  • #18
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    All this hypothetical talk of stopping Hitler if you had the chance. If you knew in advance what he would become, could you stop it even when he was a child? Barbarism justifying barbarism? But nobody ever talks of stopping Gavrilo, an insignificant 19 year old that changed the world unknowingly and unwittingly.

    Ye Gods, talk about being in the right place at the right time.


  • #19
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    Too soon man, too soon.

    I would have said that about the "Archie Dukie" crack.


  • #20
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Take me out ,


  • #21
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    Great Uncle Frank!

    Yeah , he went to the Somme last week to do a bit of fishing.


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  • #22
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Good night sweet prin.... , eh archduke.


  • #23
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Hande hoche! wrote: »
    A brave Yugoslav patriot.

    Serbian rather than Yugoslav??


  • #24
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Sodeepithurts wrote: »
    Take an interest in the world and read.

    Learning is for squares man!


  • #25
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Good night sweet prin.... , eh archduke.

    Oh it would have had so much more poetic remorse if it were so....and the line delivered in the deadpan 90's style of Arnold Schwarzeneggar.


  • #26
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    HerrScheisse wrote: »
    Ironically, He may have killed the best friend of Serbian autonomy, Franz Ferdinand, was certainly not a "typical" royal, nor even in favour with his own family.

    Crap band


  • #27
    HerrScheisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭HerrScheisse


    Crap brand more like.


  • #28
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Playing in a car park in Waterford soon!

    Manchester Guardian was on the ball
    "It is not to be supposed that the death of the Archduke Francis Ferdinand will have any immediate or salient effect on the politics of Europe."


  • #29
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Jesus I didn't realise they were dead that long. It seems like just yesterday that their last album was out :eek:


  • #30
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    If only they had the internet, the assassin could have taken out his frustrations on a primitive message board and argue about politics :(


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  • #31
    Maphisto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    HerrScheisse wrote: »
    All this hypothetical talk of stopping Hitler if you had the chance. If you knew in advance what he would become, could you stop it even when he was a child? Barbarism justifying barbarism? But nobody ever talks of stopping Gavrilo, an insignificant 19 year old that changed the world unknowingly and unwittingly.

    Ye Gods, talk about being in the right place at the right time.

    No. He was the spark but there was enough fuel around that it would have happened in any case.


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