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Would you use a ladies toilet

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  • #32
    OldNotWIse
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    KungPao wrote: »
    Slightly off topic...

    But I believe some people think that it is rude to use the disabled jacks if you ain't disabled?

    I believe they are accessable for them but not reserved for them. What says you?

    Oh God...waits for the war to begin. Have you seen the threads saying that people using wheelchair spaces in carparks should be given the death penalty? Watch out! :P


  • #33
    OldNotWIse
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    Plazaman wrote: »
    Was in a bar in the States one night and, as you do when the seal is broke, I made several trips to the jacks. Be it the increased alcohol intake or something, whatever move I made on the last trip to the toilets, I ended up in one of the cubicles in the ladies toilets unbeknownst to myself. Totally did not notice any difference going in.

    As I stood there draining the spuds, there comes a massive ripper of a fart from a couple of cubicles down. I burst out laughing and say "Good man, better out than your eye". Immediately there was a scream and a womans voice shouts "Oh my gawd, is there a man in here?". The panic set in and sobriety hit me very fast. I nearly got big Jim and The Twins caught in my zipper I was trying to get out of there so fast (the yanks have zero tolerence for messing in bars and I knew there could be cops involved if I got caught).

    I got out unnoticed and sat back in the booth with my friends as I see a paniced lady rush out looking around and calling over a member of staff. There was a bouncer called in and I was sure I was a goner as someone had to see me coming out. But no, was able to stay the night and got drunk for a second time as Mrs Bottom Burp gets her coat and huffily walks out the door.

    :D:D


  • #34
    pickarooney
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    Lando Griffin wrote: »
    I have a little toddler so if the mens are dirty and I don't want women in the ladies getting excited then I just use the disabled toilet.

    Having a little todger isn't really classed as a disability.


  • #35
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Having a little todger isn't really classed as a disability.


    It is something that can present itself though, for example if you are a Dad out with your daughter and she needs to go - do you accompany her into the ladies? You can't bring her into the mens... And I wouldn't be happy sending my child into a toilet alone if they were very young. We definitely need family rooms and tbh (I'll be shot for this) but is there any reason why disabled toilets cannot double as family rooms as they are already bigger and can fit buggies etc. I remember the funny scene in Jack and Sarah where he's not allowed into the mother and baby changing facility because he's not the mother. :)


  • #36
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    Ha! You've got that one wrong anyway mate. I was a doorman for years and at the end of a night I've often had to stick my head into the ladies jacks. More often than not they were worse than the men's. Male toilets tend to get the usual; p*ss on the floor, a bit of broken glass - the odd bit of gawk etc.

    Women's toilets are a whole different kettle of fish. Instead of a splash of puke you'll find gallons of it where some b*tch projectiled all over the cubicle. I've seen manky sanitary towels left sitting on a cistern, in a sink, stuck to the doors etc; more often than not they look like they were used to stem a f*cking war wound. Not to mention things like jizz and p*ss-encrusted knickers casually strewn around the gaff. One night I went in there I thought someone had actually been murdered, some young one tried to open a bottle of beer off the jacks roll dispenser and nearly chopped her finger off when it broke. Looking at the cameras later, I saw that she proceeded to squirt blood all over the gaff before sticking her hand in her bag and sprinting out of the club.

    Men's toilets are a f*cking Shangri La in comparison.

    Who cleans these jacks? Surely whoever does would need a background in hazardous waste disposal and the proper protective attire and tools provided to them.

    I shudder even thinking about, must be one of the worst jobs in the world.


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  • #37
    kylith
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    I've used the gents in work a couple of times because the lady's is very often blocked, or someone's done something terrible in there.


  • #38
    Pwindedd
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    Oh God...waits for the war to begin. Have you seen the threads saying that people using wheelchair spaces in carparks should be given the death penalty? Watch out! :P

    No fecking way should those toilets be JUST for disabled people...they are just accessible to the both the able bodied and disabled alike. If i need to go, then I'm going into whatever one is free. Hate when they are locked and only access is by asking a staff member. What do they think the able-bodied are going to do in there ???


  • #39
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Why do they have to put disabled people through all the hassle and potential embarassment of having to go find the guardian of the key? I can't imagine that's much fun.


  • #40
    FTA69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Pwindedd wrote: »
    No fecking way should those toilets be JUST for disabled people...they are just accessible to the both the able bodied and disabled alike. If i need to go, then I'm going into whatever one is free. Hate when they are locked and only access is by asking a staff member. What do they think the able-bodied are going to do in there ???

    Go in as a group and take loads of cocaine?


  • #41
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Pwindedd wrote: »
    What do they think the able-bodied are going to do in there ???
    They're comfortable, private, lockable cubicles. So, go in for a shag, go in to shoot up, etc etc. I'm sure a wiley homeless person would use one to wander in out of the rain and have a few beers and a wash.

    The baby changing rooms in Liffey Valley are key-only for the same reason.

    In nicer areas they're usually not locked by default.


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  • #42
    Links234
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    It is something that can present itself though, for example if you are a Dad out with your daughter and she needs to go - do you accompany her into the ladies? You can't bring her into the mens... And I wouldn't be happy sending my child into a toilet alone if they were very young. We definitely need family rooms and tbh (I'll be shot for this) but is there any reason why disabled toilets cannot double as family rooms as they are already bigger and can fit buggies etc. I remember the funny scene in Jack and Sarah where he's not allowed into the mother and baby changing facility because he's not the mother. :)

    See, this is why we need more gender neutral facilities around, solves all these issues.


  • #43
    pickarooney
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    I bring my daughter into the men's, or the ladies, whatever is closest. Why wouldn't I?


  • #44
    Buzz Killington the third
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    We definitely need family rooms and tbh (I'll be shot for this) but is there any reason why disabled toilets cannot double as family rooms as they are already bigger and can fit buggies etc.

    A lot of them are. The big malls like Dundrum do this.


  • #45
    OldNotWIse
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    I bring my daughter into the men's, or the ladies, whatever is closest. Why wouldn't I?


    Well maybe the crazy yanks would get hysterical and call the cops if you went into the ladies...and then there was the poster who suggested that throwing your d1ck around in the mens in perfectly acceptable :D


  • #46
    Leonard Slow Manager
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    Well maybe the crazy yanks would get hysterical and call the cops if you went into the ladies...and then there was the poster who suggested that throwing your d1ck around in the mens in perfectly acceptable :D

    Wasn't it an Irish gym where someone lost the plot that a young lad saw naked men in the men's changing room?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76771636
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pool-swimmer-over-the-moon-after-being-cleared-of-lewd-act-26815732.html
    The court heard that on the day in question the boy had gone into the male changing rooms "for the first time on his own".

    The boy agreed with Mr Nicholas that he found it "a bit daunting" that Mr McMahon was "walking naked around the changing rooms".

    Mr Nicholas said it was "highly important" that they consider that the boy, "had little or no experiences" of adults walking around changing rooms naked.

    He added: "In any changing room of this type there would be nudity and the whole thing was new and daunting for him."

    In his final address to the jury, Mr Nicholas said: "If you're young and not used to nudity, the shock of it could be overwhelming. . . Use your common sense. Of course there would be nudity, scratching one's self, towelling one's self, and so forth."
    - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pool-swimmer-over-the-moon-after-being-cleared-of-lewd-act-26815732.html#sthash.jGfaUg8l.dpuf


  • #47
    kylith
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Wasn't it an Irish gym where someone lost the plot that a young lad saw naked men in the men's changing room?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76771636
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pool-swimmer-over-the-moon-after-being-cleared-of-lewd-act-26815732.html
    The court heard that on the day in question the boy had gone into the male changing rooms "for the first time on his own".

    The boy agreed with Mr Nicholas that he found it "a bit daunting" that Mr McMahon was "walking naked around the changing rooms".

    Mr Nicholas said it was "highly important" that they consider that the boy, "had little or no experiences" of adults walking around changing rooms naked.

    He added: "In any changing room of this type there would be nudity and the whole thing was new and daunting for him."

    In his final address to the jury, Mr Nicholas said: "If you're young and not used to nudity, the shock of it could be overwhelming. . . Use your common sense. Of course there would be nudity, scratching one's self, towelling one's self, and so forth."
    - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pool-swimmer-over-the-moon-after-being-cleared-of-lewd-act-26815732.html#sthash.jGfaUg8l.dpuf

    I used to work in a gym and we would occasionally get complaints from men about their sons seeing other men unclothed in the changing rooms. We used to just say "Well, it is a men's changing room".


  • #48
    pickarooney
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    I can't find anywhere what this guy was accused of or who accused him exactly. There seems to be a suggestion that he went to court for being naked in the shower but surely that's not the case??


  • #49
    seamus
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    I can't find anywhere what this guy was accused of or who accused him exactly. There seems to be a suggestion that he went to court for being naked in the shower but surely that's not the case??
    The guy was basically accused of touching himself indecently in front of a child who had been in the changing room.

    It became apparent in the court case that the guy was just scratching his balls and/or drying himself off with a towel and the child was uncomfortable being in close proximity to him.

    Think of how you dry your private parts off with a towel, then imagine how that would look to a child who'd never been in a shower room before.


  • #50
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I'm trying to understand it but I just don't get how someone so unworldly would then go and lodge a formal complaint against a guy for indecent exposure or whatever the charge was


  • #51
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Wasn't it an Irish gym where someone lost the plot that a young lad saw naked men in the men's changing room?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76771636
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pool-swimmer-over-the-moon-after-being-cleared-of-lewd-act-26815732.html
    The court heard that on the day in question the boy had gone into the male changing rooms "for the first time on his own".

    The boy agreed with Mr Nicholas that he found it "a bit daunting" that Mr McMahon was "walking naked around the changing rooms".

    Mr Nicholas said it was "highly important" that they consider that the boy, "had little or no experiences" of adults walking around changing rooms naked.

    He added: "In any changing room of this type there would be nudity and the whole thing was new and daunting for him."

    In his final address to the jury, Mr Nicholas said: "If you're young and not used to nudity, the shock of it could be overwhelming. . . Use your common sense. Of course there would be nudity, scratching one's self, towelling one's self, and so forth."
    - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/pool-swimmer-over-the-moon-after-being-cleared-of-lewd-act-26815732.html#sthash.jGfaUg8l.dpuf

    Ye gods, we are so repressed :(


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  • #52
    RDM_83 again
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    seamus wrote: »
    The guy was basically accused of touching himself indecently in front of a child who had been in the changing room.

    It became apparent in the court case that the guy was just scratching his balls and/or drying himself off with a towel and the child was uncomfortable being in close proximity to him.

    Think of how you dry your private parts off with a towel, then imagine how that would look to a child who'd never been in a shower room before.

    I can actually understand how this happened ( generalisation ahead ;-) ), there seems to be a serious exhibitionist streak in some older guys that use gym changing rooms if your a kid used to changing 'normally' it would seem weird


  • #53
    ToddyDoody
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    I have definitely done it twice by accident. Wouldn't fancy using the gents by accident


  • #54
    Teyla Emmagan
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    I worked in a 5 floor building. We had 3 floors, but you used to be able to go to the loo on any floor because they were outside the security pass area (i.e. right beside the lifts). IT company so possibly a small percentage more of men than women. And you'd often see one of our lads heading up to the 5th floor and think 'what's he doing'? Turns out, going for a ****e. The people on the floors we didn't have eventually put swipes in on their loo doors because my male colleagues were destroying the place apparently. They were complaining about poo all over the jacks, floors, everywhere.

    Nice.


  • #55
    looking_around
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    OhHiMark wrote: »
    Just whip your cock out in front of them. If they complain tell them they shouldn't come into the men's toilet if they didn't want to see a penis or two.

    :rolleyes: any woman with the balls enough to walk into men's toilet won't care about seeing a few penis's.

    The majority of women aren't comfortable with it, and won't do it.


    I myself am for uni sex toilets,...all this separation is just annoying and unnecessary and simply to facilitate urinals. Just throw a cubicle around them and be done with it.


  • #56
    Saulcortez
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 19 ✭Saulcortez


    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    I can actually understand how this happened ( generalisation ahead ;-) ), there seems to be a serious exhibitionist streak in some older guys that use gym changing rooms if your a kid used to changing 'normally' it would seem weird

    I think that "exhibitionist streak" is simply older guys becoming comfortable in their own skin as they get older.


  • #57
    munster87
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    Was at the Darts Premier League in Belfast (Odyssey Arena) last year. Between 2 matches there was about 40 lads in the queue for the gents. Used the ladies instead as they were empty.


  • #58
    krudler
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    Links234 wrote: »

    By comparison I was in some dingy rock bar in London a while back, and they had gender neutral toilets, you'd go in and they were all cubicles with M/F styled like the AC/DC logo on them and they were downright pristine. It seems like there's some sort of psychological effect when it comes to gender neutral toilets where neither the lads or the ladies want to be seen as the messier gender infront of each other so are acting their best.

    A few years ago I was in San Francisco and the bar we were in had neutral toilets as well and they were probably the cleanest public bathrooms I'd ever been in, definitely think it gave people a best behaviour approach.


  • #59
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    The queues for ladies' toilets can be head-wrecking. It's a ****ing toilet, yet so many women spend ages and ages in there. Deodorant can be put on at the sink.


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