SVP calls for increased social welfare payments

yawhat! · 24-06-2014 04:33PM #1

I think it should be decreased to encourage people to start working again! Taking my tax dollars and getting a free house :mad::mad::mad:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0624/626172-st-vincent-de-paul/

Editied: For people who don't want to work, not people genuinely trying to get jobs.

folan · 24-06-2014 04:35PM

yawhat! wrote: »

I think it should be decreased to encourage people to start working again! Taking my tax dollars and getting a free house :mad::mad::mad:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0624/626172-st-vincent-de-paul/

tax dollars? but the article is about SVP and Ireland, where we use the Euro. your tax dollars are safe, my american friend.

eviltwin · 24-06-2014 04:37PM

yawhat! wrote: »

I think it should be decreased to encourage people to start working again! Taking my tax dollars and getting a free house :mad::mad::mad:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0624/626172-st-vincent-de-paul/

You do realise not everyone on SW gets a free house don't you?

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-06-2014 04:38PM

What would you have us do with the sick and the disabled who cannot work mein Fuhrer?

corner of hells · 24-06-2014 04:39PM

yawhat! wrote: »

I think it should be decreased to encourage people to start working again! Taking my tax dollars and getting a free house :mad::mad::mad:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0624/626172-st-vincent-de-paul/

I'd like to hear about these free houses

MarkR · 24-06-2014 04:40PM

corner of hells wrote: »

I'd like to hear about these free houses

And where do I get my dollars?

comongethappy · 24-06-2014 04:41PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

What would you have us do with the sick and the disabled who cannot work mein Fuhrer?

You mean the 1 in 8 adults who are disabled?. (A world leading figure).

Who knows.... Money is infinite as we know.

corner of hells · 24-06-2014 04:41PM

MarkR wrote: »

And where do I get my dollars?

OPs arse ?

Mr. CooL ICE · 24-06-2014 04:43PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

What would you have us do with the sick and the disabled who cannot work mein Fuhrer?

Get outta here with yer realistic scenarios

c_man · 24-06-2014 04:44PM

SVP calls for increased social welfare payments

Well, they would. Wouldn't they? This is news?

listermint · 24-06-2014 04:44PM

comongethappy wrote: »

You mean the 1 in 8 adults who are disabled?. (A world leading figure).

Who knows.... Money is infinite as we know.

Yes its always perplexed me as to how we seem to give out the disabled badges in this country like candyfloss. Seems to be acres of unscrupulous chancers with free parking in the city.

Amirani · 24-06-2014 04:45PM

No to an increase in general welfare payments. Maybe to the introduction of a fuel/energy subsidy IF it can be shown that one is needed to maintain a basic way of living on existing welfare levels.

I don't think one is needed though based on anecdotal experience.

darkpagandeath · 24-06-2014 04:48PM

Definitely not, Because as well all know since the crash the standard of living went dirt cheap and prices went down to pre boom. Oh wait.... And were do I get my free house ?

mickydoomsux · 24-06-2014 04:50PM

listermint wrote: »

Yes its always perplexed me as to how we seem to give out the disabled badges in this country like candyfloss. Seems to be acres of unscrupulous chancers with free parking in the city.

Well, past governments had to buy votes some way!

And now you can't take anything back of people because they'll throw their collective toys out of their prams until you have to back down.

This will become completely unsustainable if it continues the way it is. We're on the brink now but most people don't give a **** as long as they get their "entitlements".

corner of hells · 24-06-2014 05:01PM

listermint wrote: »

Yes its always perplexed me as to how we seem to give out the disabled badges in this country like candyfloss. Seems to be acres of unscrupulous chancers with free parking in the city.

They are not given out like candlefloss, you must apply producing a primary medical cert and cost 35 euros and not every disabled person qualifies for one.I'd also like to know how you know from looking at a car with a disabled pass that the owner of the pass is unscrupulous.

comongethappy · 24-06-2014 05:06PM

corner of hells wrote: »

They are not given out like candlefloss, you must apply producing a primary medical cert and cost 35 euros and not every disabled person qualifies for one.I'd also like to know how you know from looking at a car with a disabled pass that the owner of the pass is unscrupulous.

40% more disabled adults from 2006 to 2013.
Statistically impossible, but I'm sure its all on the level.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2013/04/04/the-mystery-of-disability

corner of hells · 24-06-2014 05:09PM

comongethappy wrote: »

40% more disabled adults from 2006 to 2013.
Statistically impossible, but I'm sure its all on the level.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2013/04/04/the-mystery-of-disability

The disabled parking pass is not issued to every disabled person , you must meet certain criteria for it.

darkpagandeath · 24-06-2014 05:10PM

comongethappy wrote: »

40% more disabled adults from 2006 to 2013.
Statistically impossible, but I'm sure its all on the level.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2013/04/04/the-mystery-of-disability

Could be the dole office fudging the figures, Recommending people go on the sick rather than claim JSA.

efb · 24-06-2014 05:10PM

comongethappy wrote: »

40% more disabled adults from 2006 to 2013.
Statistically impossible, but I'm sure its all on the level.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2013/04/04/the-mystery-of-disability

A deeper examination of those figures is necessary

Chinasea · 24-06-2014 05:14PM

corner of hells wrote: »

The disabled parking pass is not issued to every disabled person , you must meet certain criteria for it.

Dubious. Very poor loose r
eview process which gives an easy green light to the abundant dubious claimants.

mickydoomsux · 24-06-2014 05:14PM

efb wrote: »

A deeper examination of those figures is necessary

Won't happen.

Special interest groups would have a field day and accuse the government of "targeting the vulnerable". Again.

That's the problem with creating a touchy-feely nanny state that babysits grown ass people. It's next to near impossible to reverse it once you tell people that they are a cosseted special group of people.

Soft Falling Rain · 24-06-2014 05:16PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Could be the dole office fudging the figures, Recommending people go on the sick rather than claim JSA.

Disability benefit and the like has been one of the biggest topics of contention in Joan Burton's war on those ripping the system, so why would any dole office actively encourage anyone to pursue an illness benefit? They want people off it not on it!

bogmanfan · 24-06-2014 05:17PM

Was only discussing the dole with my brother-in-law at the weekend. He's currently out of work, having returned home from working abroad. In his opinion, and for his circumstances (single, no dependents) he thinks the dole is far too high in this country. In his words, you shouldn't be able to save while receiving social welfare. Likewise it shouldn't be enough to facilitate a Sky Sports subscription or a 20-a-day smoking habit.
It's a crazy situation we are in, where some people are better off being unemployed than working. A recent story in the Indo broke down the figures, and when medical card, rent allowance etc are taken into account, there is absolutely no financial benefit for some in getting a low-paid job.
I would think that a raising of the minimum wage as well as the income tax band, combined with a reduction in social welfare would help to change this.

darkpagandeath · 24-06-2014 05:18PM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Disability benefit and the like has been one of the biggest topics of contention in Joan Burton's war on those ripping the system, so why would any dole office actively encourage anyone to pursue an illness benefit? They want people off it not on it!

You are not on the live register, Therefore not part of the unemployed figures.

Fr_Dougal · 24-06-2014 05:19PM

Naaaaaah. Thread needs a poll.

corner of hells · 24-06-2014 05:20PM

Chinasea wrote: »

Dubious. Very poor loose r
eview process which gives an easy green light to the abundant dubious claimants.

The criteria has become much strict , a certain number of people automatically qualify for the pass , people with severe mobility issues and blind people .Everyone else needs an application through their GP.

Chinasea · 24-06-2014 05:20PM

corner of hells wrote: »

They are not given out like candlefloss, you must apply producing a primary medical cert and cost 35 euros and not every disabled person qualifies for one.I'd also like to know how you know from looking at a car with a disabled pass that the owner of the pass is unscrupulous.

You cant and unless you have a wooden leg detector it is tricky but but but the whole review process is very shoddy, loose and open to out and out abuse. Wat to many dubious disability claimants in this country which imo affords a life of dysfunction and idelness.

PizzamanIRL · 24-06-2014 05:22PM

I want more free money. Come on government.

Maximus Alexander · 24-06-2014 05:22PM

People on social welfare are worse than Hitler.

How Soon Is Now · 24-06-2014 05:24PM

Jesus dole threads come as often as buses in here these days!

chasm · 24-06-2014 05:26PM

yawhat! wrote: »

I think it should be decreased to encourage people to start working again! Taking my tax dollars and getting a free house :mad::mad::mad:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0624/626172-st-vincent-de-paul/

What free house would that be then?

SVP calls for increased social welfare payments

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