Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

Backstreet Moyes · 23-06-2014 11:01AM

MagicIRL wrote: »

There are two midfielders we need to buy and they are Vidal and Stootman. Strottman pre-ACL was a beast at Roma. Vidal has been incredible for Juve and has carried that in to the World Cup. The amount of problems those two would fix and cause for opponents is priceless.

Barring kidnpping Vidal or making him the highest paid player in the world without Champions League football can't see him coming. Think Vidal will end up at Barca to take over from Xavi.

MagicIRL · 23-06-2014 11:04AM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Barring kidnpping Vidal or making him the highest paid player in the world without Champions League football can't see him coming. Think Vidal will end up at Barca to take over from Xavi.

They're not the same type of player though? Vidal is a rampaging midfielder. Xavi sits back and pulls all the strings.

fuzzydunlop85 · 23-06-2014 11:10AM

Don't think were gonna be signing any 'big name' players this summer. I'm assuming we have an army of scouts at the club wtf have they been doing the last few years? We haven't really unearthed any talent since Hernandez.

Lucas Hood · 23-06-2014 11:10AM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Barring kidnpping Vidal or making him the highest paid player in the world without Champions League football can't see him coming. Think Vidal will end up at Barca to take over from Xavi.

They've just signed Rakitic I think he'll take over from Xavi. They really did mess up letting Thiago leave last summer he'd have been a perfect replacement for Xavi.

Backstreet Moyes · 23-06-2014 11:11AM

MagicIRL wrote: »

They're not the same type of player though? Vidal is a rampaging midfielder. Xavi sits back and pulls all the strings.

Sorry maybe not to replace Xavi directly but it's what Madrid and Barca do. They just sign all the best players in the world and with Fabregas gone, and Xavi getting old i can see them moving for Vidal this summer.

KH25 · 23-06-2014 11:14AM

Can't see us buying more than one big name this Summer. Hopefully it will be Vidal and a bid will be put in for Strootman in January if he gets back to his best.

MagicIRL · 23-06-2014 11:17AM

With a bit of luck Vidal runs riot against Holland today and LvG sees first hand how good he is!

fuzzydunlop85 · 23-06-2014 11:18AM

Don't think we will sign any big names to be honest but there are probably around 30-40midfielders at the World Cup who would be an upgrade on anything we have at the moment.

KH25 · 23-06-2014 11:18AM

MagicIRL wrote: »

With a bit of luck Vidal runs riot against Holland today and LvG sees first hand how good he is!

He was great against Spain. Constantly harrassing players with the ball. He reminded me of Tevez and the way he used to chase down every ball.

Maximus Alexander · 23-06-2014 11:25AM

Why do they keep putting the feckin' Dutch matches on at 5pm. :mad:

Timmyctc · 23-06-2014 11:26AM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Why do they keep putting the feckin' Dutch matches on at 5pm. :mad:

All that group's matches are at 5pm. Hon the Pirlo though. If Italy go out can we break the bank for Pirlo? Raging we didn't go for him the summer Juve signed him.

Backstreet Moyes · 23-06-2014 11:27AM

KH25 wrote: »

He was great against Spain. Constantly harrassing players with the ball. He reminded me of Tevez and the way he used to chase down every ball.

To be honest how he kept that up for 85 minutes was unreal. He never stopped hassling he covered some ground. I never watched him much until recently he is the best midfielders in the world by a distance imo.

redbaron_99 · 23-06-2014 11:30AM

I actually get the feeling that we'll sign a left back, and a very average centre back and that will be the lot. I hope to God I'm wrong.

MagicIRL · 23-06-2014 11:36AM

Timmyctc wrote: »

All that group's matches are at 5pm. Hon the Pirlo. If Italy go out can we break the bank for Pirlo? Raging we didn't go for him the summer Juve signed him.

Everything about Pirlo is beauty.

Here's some pictures of Pirlo doing Pirlo things.

Pirlo wearing a coat.

Pirlo smelling some wine. Little known fact: Pirlo invented wine.

Pirlo running to embrace me in a manhug bromance.

Pirlo taking a freekick like a sexy ****.

mcratsix · 23-06-2014 11:37AM

Nani is just a bad player in my opinion. I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, he clearly does. But he's selfish, he tries to shoot outside the box at every opportunity and rarely even hits the target. He's been at United for years, and yes he's proven that he can be useful, but he's also proven that the majority of the time he's useless. He doesn't track back or give 100%, the way Valencia does. He's much better on the ball then Valencia, but he doesn't seem to have the confidence any more to really take people on like he did once (I'm thinking of that game against arsenal a few years ago where he ran riot).

For me, nani is never going to be a really great player at United, and it would be best for him and for the club if he were to leave. He'd probably be a great player for some club in Portugal.

On a similar note, I say get rid of cleverly and young too. They're just not united standard.

redbaron_99 · 23-06-2014 11:55AM

Can't quite figure if this is Moyes defending Fellaini, or blaming him.. I suspect it's the latter.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/484271/I-thought-I-was-signing-a-No-8-David-Moyes-lifts-lid-on-Marouane-Fellaini

Spazdarn · 23-06-2014 11:56AM

I understand to a point why people are defending Nani over Valencia. Thing is Valencia is limited, you're basically getting about as much as you can muster out of him... but Nani is multiple times more talented but it's pissed away with terrible decision making... which is far more frustrating to watch.

Both have no place in a United team trying to get champions league football again.

Blatter · 23-06-2014 12:06PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Can't quite figure if this is Moyes defending Fellaini, or blaming him.. I suspect it's the latter.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/484271/I-thought-I-was-signing-a-No-8-David-Moyes-lifts-lid-on-Marouane-Fellaini

The headline in that article is shocking.

FutureGuy · 23-06-2014 12:08PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Can't quite figure if this is Moyes defending Fellaini, or blaming him.. I suspect it's the latter.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/484271/I-thought-I-was-signing-a-No-8-David-Moyes-lifts-lid-on-Marouane-Fellaini

Absolute gutter journalism.

redbaron_99 · 23-06-2014 12:17PM

I feel really sorry for Fellaini. I hope he uses the abuse he's been getting. Comes out next season determined to prove a few people wrong.

Zico · 23-06-2014 12:18PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Can't quite figure if this is Moyes defending Fellaini, or blaming him.. I suspect it's the latter.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/484271/I-thought-I-was-signing-a-No-8-David-Moyes-lifts-lid-on-Marouane-Fellaini

That article reflects worse on Moyes than Fellaini.

I wouldn't blame Fellaini if he had Moyes' face on a dart board at home.

bucketybuck · 23-06-2014 12:20PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/484271/I-thought-I-was-signing-a-No-8-David-Moyes-lifts-lid-on-Marouane-Fellaini

He has brilliant fitness, a brilliant attitude. What we saw him do against Algeria was what I brought him to Manchester United for.

Wasn't Felliani brought on up front against Algeria to be awkward and win high ball?

TheDoc · 23-06-2014 12:23PM

Zico wrote: »

That article reflects worse on Moyes than Fellaini.

I wouldn't blame Fellaini if he had Moyes' face on a dart board at home.

No it doesn't it reflects poorly on the rubbish editor putting that attention grabbing headline, where Moyes didn't make the reference once.

I thought it was an honest article. It's also somewhat good to get some clarity on what he wanted form Fellaini. I thought he cam in his prefered DM role, but that wasn't the case.

So what I can say, is that Moyes failed dramatically in terms of providing a base for which Fellaini could operate in a more advanced role.

Also agree with Moyes in that he will show his true colours next year. It's good to see him outline that Fellaini being the first and only signing, is the last thing he wanted.

Zico · 23-06-2014 12:34PM

TheDoc wrote: »

No it doesn't it reflects poorly on the rubbish editor putting that attention grabbing headline, where Moyes didn't make the reference once.

I thought it was an honest article. It's also somewhat good to get some clarity on what he wanted form Fellaini. I thought he cam in his prefered DM role, but that wasn't the case.

So what I can say, is that Moyes failed dramatically in terms of providing a base for which Fellaini could operate in a more advanced role.

Also agree with Moyes in that he will show his true colours next year. It's good to see him outline that Fellaini being the first and only signing, is the last thing he wanted.

I'm confused.

You think the article paints Moyes in a more positive light than Fellaini but Moyes failed Fellaini by not providing him with the support to do his job?

Son Of A Vidic · 23-06-2014 12:38PM

MagicIRL wrote: »

Everything about Pirlo is beauty.

Here's some pictures of Pirlo doing Pirlo things.................

Post nominated for POTY -Post Of The Year. Fantastic stuff.

thelad95 · 23-06-2014 12:39PM

I think the role Fellaini played against Algeria is what should be his role in the future with us. Think about it, we are at home to Stoke and 0-1 behind, Fellaini comes on gets a headed goal from a long ball and then sets up another after controlling a long ball perfectly on his chest. Aside from being an awkward substitute, I can't see where else he will fit in under LVG.

Mikeyt086 · 23-06-2014 12:45PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Absolute gutter journalism.

The Express have really outdone themselves this summer.

NoviGlitzko · 23-06-2014 12:49PM

mcratsix wrote: »

Nani is just a bad player in my opinion. I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, he clearly does. But he's selfish, he tries to shoot outside the box at every opportunity and rarely even hits the target. He's been at United for years, and yes he's proven that he can be useful, but he's also proven that the majority of the time he's useless. He doesn't track back or give 100%, the way Valencia does. He's much better on the ball then Valencia, but he doesn't seem to have the confidence any more to really take people on like he did once (I'm thinking of that game against arsenal a few years ago where he ran riot).

For me, nani is never going to be a really great player at United, and it would be best for him and for the club if he were to leave. He'd probably be a great player for some club in Portugal.

On a similar note, I say get rid of cleverly and young too. They're just not united standard.

Good post. I said this a year or so ago and got a rollicking for it. Times have changed.

Timmyctc · 23-06-2014 12:50PM

mcratsix wrote: »

Nani is just a bad player in my opinion. I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, he clearly does. But he's selfish, he tries to shoot outside the box at every opportunity and rarely even hits the target. He's been at United for years, and yes he's proven that he can be useful, but he's also proven that the majority of the time he's useless. He doesn't track back or give 100%, the way Valencia does. He's much better on the ball then Valencia, but he doesn't seem to have the confidence any more to really take people on like he did once (I'm thinking of that game against arsenal a few years ago where he ran riot).

For me, nani is never going to be a really great player at United, and it would be best for him and for the club if he were to leave. He'd probably be a great player for some club in Portugal.

On a similar note, I say get rid of cleverly and young too. They're just not united standard.

Just out of interest. You never mentioned getting rid of Val. Would you keep him if given the choice?

Son Of A Vidic · 23-06-2014 12:55PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Why do they keep putting the feckin' Dutch matches on at 5pm. :mad:

FIFA probably want to make sure the Dutch play every game during the peak heat of the day. Since Sepp probably knows who's going to win the WC already. He wouldn't want the Dutch providing an upset.

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