Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Notes in OP,22/7

Larry Wildman

redbaron_99 wrote: »

You think the manager of Manchester United doesn't know what johny Evans looks like. I hope you are taking the p*ss.

What part do you not get?

Did you have a dream that when Van Gaal took over, he went to Carrington, met the players, took training for a few weeks and then jetted off to Brazil the day before Holland played Spain?

Because from memory, Van Gaal met club officials and Ryan Giggs, all while preparing for the World Cup and mostly in Holland. Then he went off to the World Cup. In reality, Van Gaal hasn't started as manager of Manchester United.

RichFTW

LeeJM wrote: »

Yeah I saw him last season and he's not ideal as a RB but as experienced back up he's a good option. 4 games into the season and Rafael tears his ACL we are left with Smalling/Jones/Varela at RB and as i said before I never want to see Smalling or Jones at RB.

Yeah Varela MIGHT step up and be brilliant or he might be another John O'Kane. Its for that reason we need experience in the squad. Also the danger in changing a squad too much has been seen before ie Spurs

Might be another John O'Kane, might also be another Gary Neville. We won't know until he gets a chance. Youth players being promoted to the seniors is not as disruptive as Spurs bringing new players in from other clubs/nations. United's past glory was built on promoting youth players, it's time to resurrect that policy as opposed to sticking with average squad players no matter how bad they consistently play

Larry Wildman wrote: »

It's funny that some posters expect Van Gaal to have an encyclopedic knowledge of Manchester United players when he's been up to his neck with the World Cup and preparations for same. I'd actually be surprised if he knows what Tom Cleverley looks like. I'd actually be surprised if he'd recognise Jonny Evans if he stood next to him in a bar. Yet some posters expect him to have his mind made up about who's in and who's out!!!

It's funny that you think United players are part of secret organisation that nobody knows about. I'm sure LVG has his own scouts & coaches who will be gathering information for him while he is at the World Cup, not to mention the advice of his assistant manger who has been at the club for over 20 years! You hardly think LVG is going to turn up after the WC with zero preparation or knowledge of the club. I'd say he has a fair idea of the in's & out's but will reserve his final judgement on some decisions until he gets a first hand look.

Headshot

Nani not increasing his transfer costs

He's been ****e

redbaron_99

Larry Wildman wrote: »

What part do you not get?

Did you have a dream that when Van Gaal took over, he went to Carrington, met the players, took training for a few weeks and then jetted off to Brazil the day before Holland played Spain?

Because from memory, Van Gaal met club officials and Ryan Giggs, all while preparing for the World Cup and mostly in Holland. Then he went off to the World Cup. In reality, Van Gaal hasn't started as manager of Manchester United.

Van gaal will be very familiar with all the players at united. He didn't need to visit carrington.

Timmyctc

Headshot wrote: »

Nani not increasing his transfer costs

He's been ****e

He's not been any worse than the rest. He's among the better. Moutinho and Merieles been very good. Ronaldo showing some good touches too.

Headshot

Timmyctc wrote: »

He's not been any worse than the rest. He's among the better. Moutinho and Merieles been very good. Ronaldo showing some good touches too.

You must of missed his dreadful passing and lack of any control of the ball

redbaron_99

Nani has given the ball away time an time again. Disgraceful for a player with his natural ability.

Timmyctc

Headshot wrote: »

You must of missed his dreadful passing and lack of any control of the ball

Only time he really failed to control the ball was from a 70yard plus pass he took a slightly heavy touch on at full pelt. Some wayward passing from everyone on Portugal team. Not a lot of great movement either. Nothing to make Nani stand out as any worse than the rest.

Larry Wildman

RichFTW wrote: »

Might be another John O'Kane, might also be another Gary Neville. We won't know until he gets a chance. Youth players being promoted to the seniors is not as disruptive as Spurs bringing new players in from other clubs/nations. United's past glory was built on promoting youth players, it's time to resurrect that policy as opposed to sticking with average squad players no matter how bad they consistently play



It's funny that you think United players are part of secret organisation that nobody knows about. I'm sure LVG has his own scouts & coaches who will be gathering information for him while he is at the World Cup, not to mention the advice of his assistant manger who has been at the club for over 20 years! You hardly think LVG is going to turn up after the WC with zero preparation or knowledge of the club. I'd say he has a fair idea of the in's & out's but will reserve his final judgement on some decisions until he gets a first hand look.

I would expect Van Gaal to be focussed 100% on Holland and the World Cup.

Headshot

Timmyctc wrote: »

Only time he really failed to control the ball was from a 70yard plus pass he took a slightly heavy touch on at full pelt. Some wayward passing from everyone on Portugal team. Not a lot of great movement either. Nothing to make Nani stand out as any worse than the rest.

So you dont remember the easy pass to him that he let slip under his foot to go out for a USA throw?

Timmyctc

Headshot wrote: »

So you dont remember the easy pass to him that he let slip under his foot to go out for a USA throw?

Sorry. Musta missed that one. He hasn't really been the worst player on the pitch though. Far from it. He miscontrolled again there now but the wingbacks seem to be intent on pelting the ball at players as opposed to passing it to them.

Larry Wildman

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Van gaal will be very familiar with all the players at united. He didn't need to visit carrington.

How exactly? He's been tied up with a little shindig down in South America since he "took over" United (the reality is that he hasn't taken over yet at all). Are Jonny Evans, Tom Cleverley, etc all high profile in Holland / Spain / Germany? If Jonny Evans walked up to Louis Van Gaal and said "Hi" I would be genuinely shocked if Van Gaal knew him from Adam.

Correct me if I'm wrong...Van Gaal hasn't met the players yet? My understanding is that he met United execs and Ryan Giggs.

DARK-KNIGHT

brilliant play by ronnie followed by a great nani effort

redbaron_99

Larry Wildman wrote: »

How exactly? He's been tied up with a little shindig down in South America since he "took over" United (the reality is that he hasn't taken over yet at all). Are Jonny Evans, Tom Cleverley, etc all high profile in Holland / Spain / Germany? If Jonny Evans walked up to Louis Van Gaal and said "Hi" I would be genuinely shocked if Van Gaal knew him from Adam.

Correct me if I'm wrong...Van Gaal hasn't met the players yet? My understanding is that he met United execs and Ryan Giggs.

Sigh

Timmyctc

Nani almost scores again.

RichFTW

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I would expect Van Gaal to be focussed 100% on Holland and the World Cup.

And well he should. Do you think he is going to turn up at Carrington so with his lad in hand asking everyone what Cleverly looks like and have no knowledge of the club? The man known for his planning is just going to turn up blind to one of the biggest jobs in world football?! Use your head man.

He has already appointed his team of coaches, logic would point towards delegating to them the ground work of scouting the club and its needs seeing as he is in Brazil. I'm sure he has picked up some contacts in the game as well over his years in football who would have scouting reports done on United's players.

DARK-KNIGHT

to suggest lvg knows next to nobody in our squad is laughable hang your head son

v3ttel

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Nani has given the ball away time an time again. Disgraceful for a player with his natural ability.

Headshot wrote: »

Nani not increasing his transfer costs

He's been ****e

Yes, it's not like he has scored the only goal of the game so far. It's not like he's just cracked the post with a piledriver to nearly put them 2-0 up either, or earlier brought a good save from Howard.

Let's take someone that doesn't give the ball away but doesn't produce match winning moments.

Timmyctc

v3ttel wrote: »

Yes, it's not like he has scored the only goal of the game so far. It's not like he's just cracked the post with a piledriver to nearly put them 2-0 up either, or earlier brought a good save from Howard.

Let's take someone that doesn't give the ball away but doesn't produce match winning moments.

Valencia keeps the ball :pac: Passes it back to the Right back all the time. Lets keep him instead.

bucketybuck

Larry Wildman wrote: »

What part do you not get?

Did you have a dream that when Van Gaal took over, he went to Carrington, met the players, took training for a few weeks and then jetted off to Brazil the day before Holland played Spain?

I've never been to Carrington and never taken United training either. I still know Valencia is **** though.

bucketybuck

Timmyctc wrote: »

Valencia keeps the ball :pac: Passes it back to the Right back all the time. Lets keep him instead.

If Valencia is right back who does he pass to?

v3ttel

Timmyctc wrote: »

Valencia keeps the ball :pac: Passes it back to the Right back all the time. Lets keep him instead.

Why win a game 1-0 when you can draw 0-0 and give the ball away a little less.

Flair, Creativity & Inconsistency > Consistency, without ever delivering a match winning moment

DARK-KNIGHT

bucketybuck wrote: »

If Valencia is right back who does he pass to?

ballboy

Timmyctc

bucketybuck wrote: »

If Valencia is right back who does he pass to?

Ah but who guards the guards?

DARK-KNIGHT

Timmyctc wrote: »

Ah but who guards the guards?

dougal guards the corner flags...

POSSY

Hopefully not too off-topic but Ronaldo really doesn't look like he's okay at all tonight.

sigmundv

POSSY wrote: »

Hopefully not too off-topic but Ronaldo really doesn't look like he's okay at all tonight.

Indeed. He has been looking out of sorts since the last few matches of the season with Real Madrid.

Mars Bar

He's been carrying an injury. Tendonitis is not something that will go away easily. It finished Owen Hargreaves career.

POSSY

Mars Bar wrote: »

He's been carrying an injury. Tendonitis is not something that will go away easily. It finished Owen Hargreaves career.

You've got to worry that he's playing when he shouldn't be. Clearly struggling. I remember a few years ago when Ronnie first started cracking in the free kicks (the one against David James comes to mind), Mark Hughes stated that he felt Ronaldo's free kick style would lead to injury in the long-term. Hope he wasn't right!

Son Of A Vidic

Mars Bar wrote: »

He's been carrying an injury. Tendonitis is not something that will go away easily. It finished Owen Hargreaves career.

Very true and no player should be anywhere near a football field with Tendonitis. Playing while not fully recovered/fit can lead to further damage and possible complete tendon rupture.