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Are Teens Getting Worse?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭The Pheasant2


    This quote is used all the time in After Hours. Problem is that Socrates never said or wrote it!

    Don't you dare tyrannize me!

    And stand up when you're being spoken to...you impertinent little whelp!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Not just that, but Dun Laoghaire today had groups of kids walking around barely dressed. Lads in just shorts, girls in shorts rammed up their back sides and tiny bikini tops on. Fine on the beach, but not appropriate really for walking around a town centre or catching the Dart.

    Why not? :confused:
    I was actually with you on the litter, but Ireland has had enough BS social conservatism to last it a lifetime. As a nation we need to grow up and stop being so afraid of the human body.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Why not? :confused:
    I was actually with you on the litter, but Ireland has had enough BS social conservatism to last it a lifetime. As a nation we need to grow up and stop being so afraid of the human body.

    As a nation the Irish human body needs to be afraid of the Sun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Why not? :confused:
    I was actually with you on the litter, but Ireland has had enough BS social conservatism to last it a lifetime. As a nation we need to grow up and stop being so afraid of the human body.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of ladies getting the puppies out. 14/15 does seem a bit too young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Username6212


    They act how you raise them, my mom used to smack me as a child, I now have a mental disorder called "respect for others"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    I'm 39 and these teenagers are better than we were and the oasis lager louts who followed us. And the e- poppers who followed them. Or was it the same time. I would get angry about this kind of stuff had I not participated in it.

    Imagine though how people felt when teenaged stuff first kicked off - the 50's or 60's. Riots on Brighton beaches. Mods vs rockers. Must have seemed like the end of the earth to WWII veterans, the last generation to go from childhood to jobs and adulthood at 16 ( in general) without the interregnum of years of education with long summer breaks where time has to be spent some how.

    Teenagers haven't always been like this. Just as long as anybody alive can remember.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭nails1


    No, but each teenage generation seem to be getting more scant in their clothing choice


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    catallus wrote: »
    This line that "nothing has changed and people were always like this when they were young" is the catch-cry of the leftist-liberalistic elite who are only too glad to see legions of un-employable louts roam the streets; plenty of fresh slacker-voters who will suck on the ever expanding teat of the state.

    Do you never read your posts back and cringe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭masti123


    Its only bad and reported when it happens on the northside. There was murder a couple of weeks in a park in Drimnagh, south Dublin but that wasnt on the news

    Agreed, they had a robbed JCB in the park too, not a word in the media.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of ladies getting the puppies out. 14/15 does seem a bit too young.

    Don't really see why not, if we're to normalize the human body to the point at which shame is removed, this surely has to start in childhood where such shame is initially fostered, no? In other words, it makes little sense to tell people "there's something to be ashamed about regarding your body now, but there won't be in a few years" - either it's ok or it isn't, imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    nails1 wrote: »
    No, but each teenage generation seem to be getting more scant in their clothing choice

    Is that not their choice? Anyway it's probably because of global warming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    If you think teenagers are worse now than your day, you were obviously the kind to sit in and watch the Late Late with your parents on a Friday night, which is perfectly fine, but you didn't know half of what went on among your generation. The only difference now is the existence of the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Teenagers haven't always been like this. Just as long as anybody alive can remember.
    The view of the younger generation as a crowd of gimps has always existed though, it seems. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    I've lived in the same area, close to a south Dublin beach, for eight years. ...........................................................
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    ...................................................................................................
    .........................................
    Are teenagers getting worse, or am I getting older, fast?

    Fredrick - me auld flower. Much as I'd like to think that we are staying the same age ......... unfortunately the Grim Reaper thinks otherwise.

    “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” was Socrates take on it around 420 BCE.

    Here's Mike and The Mechanics - a more contemporary take:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    Depends which part of the world you are in OP. I am in Eastern Canada, and the teens here are more reserved compared to young people of the same age in Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    They're eating their parents!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Blame it on the anti-corporal punishment crowd... now that it's taboo to smack a child to discipline them, kids have been getting a lot more unruly knowing they can get away with it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Don't you dare tyrannize me!

    And stand up when you're being spoken to...you impertinent little whelp!
    50% of the quotes used in internet discussions are fake and gay!

    - Napoleon Bonaparte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Meangadh wrote: »
    I've been teaching teenagers for about 10 years and I don't really see a difference in their behaviour except I would say that girls are far more streetwise than they were and definitely are much more into appearances than they were when it comes to hair and makeup and clothes. I would hate to be a teenage girl now because it's all about selfies and posing in photos for Facebook/Snapchat etc. I can even see it in my 9 year old cousin- an absolute dote of a kid but is already posing with pouts etc in photos. Could be harmless but I do think kids grow up too soon now. Especially girls.

    I would also be fearful when it comes to kids growing up in areas where guns and drugs are part of daily life for their families, so then it becomes the norm for them as they grow up too- there seems to be more of that than before but in fairness that's just a casual observation on my behalf, I've no figures to back that up.

    But as regards knowing the difference between right and wrong etc- I don't think teens have changed for the most part, we've just gotten older and less patient about their behaviour.

    In the old days, childhood ended pretty damn early, and you were off to work. This extension of childhood well into late teens (and even 20s!) and mollycoddlement is a fairly modern thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    From what I remember I was worse I reckon.

    I know plenty of full grown men who litter and walk around with no tops on when it's hot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I think they just have more money these days and it's easier to discuss their antics on social media giving it more attention, that's all.

    Plus you're old. :)

    A lot of us got up to worse and grew out of it eventually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Candie wrote: »
    Do you never read your posts back and cringe?

    One can only hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭thomasm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I wouldn't say teenagers are getting worse, no. They're obnoxious, awkward, smelly, dumb, hilarious and capable of the most incredible acts of selflessness occasionally that you wonder if they're in fact aliens. And they don't even know. However, I think that the small percentage of badly-reared little sh!ts are getting more and better air-time what with modern media and technology. This in self is dangerous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    teens are getting older.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Ah yes, let's blame the teenagers.

    You're a product of your environment. If the teenagers were raised better, they would act better. If anyone's to blame it's the generation that has spawned this one and failed to teach them how to be good people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,897 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    I know you can say it's wrong to laugh at others ... but you can't help but laugh at the male teenagers these days who clearly use hair straighteners. But have such a "dont mess with me, i am a hardman" swagger about them :pac:

    They might swing the straightener at ye!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Worse? I dunno

    Sexier? Definitely


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