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Are Teens Getting Worse?

  • 18-06-2014 10:55PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭


    I've lived in the same area, close to a south Dublin beach, for eight years.

    That beach, this evening, looks like a war zone. Broken glass, litter, empty beer cans, even dirty nappies just left there, the majority no more than five metres from the nearest bin.

    Not just that, but Dun Laoghaire today had groups of kids walking around barely dressed. Lads in just shorts, girls in shorts rammed up their back sides and tiny bikini tops on. Fine on the beach, but not appropriate really for walking around a town centre or catching the Dart.

    The thing is, every year it seems to be getting worse. Bigger groups of teenagers, more drinking and more 97 -reg chavved up Honda civics tearing around the place.

    Are teenagers getting worse, or am I getting older, fast?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    even dirty nappies just left there

    It sounds like the babies are getting worse, if anyone is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,280 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Teens have been getting worse since 1679.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    No, they're the same as they've always been.
    Adults have always complained about teenagers because they're more annoying, erratic and emotionally turbulent, and they always will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    No, just Dublin teens


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Adults have always complained about teenagers because they're more annoying, erratic and emotionally turbulent, and they always will.

    Adults just can't get it together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭emo72


    the mad ones are getting madder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    No, they're the same as they've always been.
    Adults have always complained about teenagers because they're more annoying, erratic and emotionally turbulent, and they always will.

    Are they though? I'm generally pretty tolerant towards teenagers, mainly because I still think I'm 18, but the general attitude of not caring seems to be more now than ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Consequences and responsibility have diminished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Alf. A. Male


    I grew up next to one of the beaches currently at the centre of the issues. It was always the same, it just didn't make the news and there was no social media to tell the rest of the world about it. Same old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I know you can say it's wrong to laugh at others ... but you can't help but laugh at the male teenagers these days who clearly use hair straighteners. But have such a "dont mess with me, i am a hardman" swagger about them :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    The thing is, every year it seems to be getting worse. Bigger groups of teenagers, more drinking and more 97 -reg chavved up Honda civics tearing around the place.
    Surely there's a limit to how many were produced in '97?

    They have no jobs, but as they're from families who remember having no jobs in the 80's, they get cash to enjoy themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Its only bad and reported when it happens on the northside. There was murder a couple of weeks in a park in Drimnagh, south Dublin but that wasnt on the news


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Probably not. Although teenagers certainly got worse in the 1950's-1960's era, around which time they were invented as a social group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,277 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Nah your right for the most part. I mean obviously there not all that bad plenty that don't go on that way but....

    Society has gone to **** teenagers are growing up in a time when really anything goes. Loads of little loud mouth un educated dopes hanging around these days and when I say uneducated I don't just mean intelligence I mean they honestly have no idea how to act in public.

    The people they look up to and copy ain't exactly helping either. It's unfortunately fairly normal to see girls 12 on wards walking the street in basically there jocks and fellas acting like there from the hood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Its only bad and reported when it happens on the northside. There was murder a couple of weeks in a park in Drimnagh, south Dublin but that wasnt on the news

    Yeah. The south side is too poor for the northside bourgeoisie to care about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Its only bad and reported when it happens on the northside. There was murder a couple of weeks in a park in Drimnagh, south Dublin but that wasnt on the news

    Someone shot a bouncer at the Noggin inn a couple of weeks back. Only a minor wound thankfully.

    Barely a word in the press.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nothing has changed. In the 1920's the same concerns were raised, for different reasons. Women voting was supposed to herald the end of civil order, dresses that showed ankles were a threat to public morality, short haircuts the demise of femininity. Alcohol was prohibited to curb the despoilment of young people, and the up til then floundering organised crime industry gained legs. Whenever economies dip there is an upsurge in countering movements, the anti social and the ultra conservative. Nothing ever changes in substance, only in detail. Things are better now for people in the West than ever before, we're just more aware of the downsides than ever before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    This line that "nothing has changed and people were always like this when they were young" is the catch-cry of the leftist-liberalistic elite who are only too glad to see legions of un-employable louts roam the streets; plenty of fresh slacker-voters who will suck on the ever expanding teat of the state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Its only bad and reported when it happens on the northside. There was murder a couple of weeks in a park in Drimnagh, south Dublin but that wasnt on the news


    What murder was that then ?
    Ballyfermot,tallaght,clondalkin,drimnagh,crumlin are all on the south side and are frequently in the media for all the wrong reasons.


    Someone shot a bouncer at the Noggin inn a couple of weeks back. Only a minor wound thankfully.

    Barely a word in the press.


    That shooting was well reported on in both the press and radio/ tv with a man being arrested soon after.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/man-due-in-court-in-connection-with-dublin-pub-shooting-30341184.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    You're just getting older.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    realies wrote: »
    What murder was that then ?






    That shooting was well reported on in both the press and radio/ tv with a man being arrested soon after.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/man-due-in-court-in-connection-with-dublin-pub-shooting-30341184.html
    Murder as in fights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    On the spot execution for chavs, too many people in the world these days maybe its time we knocked off the chit ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭The Pheasant2


    “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

    - Socrates

    You're getting older


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    jugger0 wrote: »
    On the spot execution for chavs, too many people in the world these days maybe its time we knocked off the chit ones.

    Should start with our keyboard warriors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    realies wrote: »
    Should start with our keyboard warriors.

    Sounds like back talk to me soft boy, i'll wreck you down the ball alley kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

    - Socrates
    You're getting older
    This quote is used all the time in After Hours. Problem is that Socrates never said or wrote it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    This quote is used all the time in After Hours. Problem is that Socrates never said or wrote it!

    Well he should have. Cheek of him taking the credit all this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    I've been teaching teenagers for about 10 years and I don't really see a difference in their behaviour except I would say that girls are far more streetwise than they were and definitely are much more into appearances than they were when it comes to hair and makeup and clothes. I would hate to be a teenage girl now because it's all about selfies and posing in photos for Facebook/Snapchat etc. I can even see it in my 9 year old cousin- an absolute dote of a kid but is already posing with pouts etc in photos. Could be harmless but I do think kids grow up too soon now. Especially girls.

    I would also be fearful when it comes to kids growing up in areas where guns and drugs are part of daily life for their families, so then it becomes the norm for them as they grow up too- there seems to be more of that than before but in fairness that's just a casual observation on my behalf, I've no figures to back that up.

    But as regards knowing the difference between right and wrong etc- I don't think teens have changed for the most part, we've just gotten older and less patient about their behaviour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    I actually think they're getting better. Reality tv has made them little softies.


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