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Unpopular GAA opinions you hold

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    Dislike of Kilkenny and their achievements is mostly borne out of jealousy.

    Clare probably won't win another All-Ireland for ten years. But if they do, the hate and jealously will start flowing in like the 90s with Loughnane.

    'Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    donnem33 wrote: »
    I believe it's about time that there were 2 referees instead of 1 officiating at matches in both hurling and football. The game is gone too fast for one man to be able to see and judge everything and make every correct decision.

    I'd say most will agree with you there. Referee's need some sort of help, be it a 2nd man, video replay or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    IrishAlice wrote: »
    Aaahhh we're not all like that! Every county has the few eejits sure!
    Martin567 wrote: »
    Kilkenny fans are mostly very understated. Imagine how unbearable certain other fans would be if their county had won 9 out of 13 All Ireland Finals.

    Maybe i've just been unlucky so :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    donnem33 wrote: »
    I believe it's about time that there were 2 referees instead of 1 officiating at matches in both hurling and football. The game is gone too fast for one man to be able to see and judge everything and make every correct decision.

    I doubt if you would find many people disagreeing with you there. It should definitely be in place for inter county games. Or if there are not two refs, there should be structures in place to help him out, such as a TMO for big games in Croker Park or Semple, another official in the stands and/or linesmen & umpires being consulted more often. I'd also look at removing some of his responsibilities (such as time keeping and keeping track of subs) and give them to someone else on the sideline. Let the ref concentrate on the game.
    Originally Posted by Martin567
    Kilkenny fans are mostly very understated. Imagine how unbearable certain other fans would be if their county had won 9 out of 13 All Ireland Finals.

    I'd agree with you there. It is very easy to accuse KK fans of being arrogant, without stopping to consider how you would react if you came from a county who has achieved what they have in the last 10-12 years. After winning Sam twice in three years, I am becoming borderline unbearable. If we ever come close to replicating what KK have, I'll probably have to leave the country. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭NavyandBlue


    Jim Carney may not be everyone's cup of tea as a commentator but you can't beat that man's passion for football. He always reminds me of many of my primary and secondary school teachers who used to sacrifice their lunch breaks in order to coach us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    Jim Carney may not be everyone's cup of tea as a commentator but you can't beat that man's passion for football. He always reminds me of many of my primary and secondary school teachers who used to sacrifice their lunch breaks in order to coach us.

    Who is Jim carney


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Who is Jim carney

    Original host of The Sunday Game.
    Tuam Heard journalist
    He used to do the commentary on the highlights of the Connaught Final for the Sunday Game back when there were no live games.

    Unique delivery is how I would describe his work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    Original host of The Sunday Game.
    Tuam Heard journalist
    He used to do the commentary on the highlights of the Connaught Final for the Sunday Game back when there were no live games.

    Unique delivery is how I would describe his work.

    He used to get a few early hurling games too.

    I remember he did a Kilkenny game in 1998, the Laois game if I'm not mistaken.

    He also did the infamous Munster final replay I think...Gilligan's goal has his voice stuck in my mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Tramore84


    Hurling is not played in every county because it is not as accessible as football and easy to pick up.

    Hurling might be the designated national game but it is not the game of the people - football is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    IrishAlice wrote: »
    Aaahhh we're not all like that! Every county has the few eejits sure!

    That's quite true Alice, and I am sure in your eyes I would be the biggest one of all and I don't take offense to you thinking that no, not at all, it is just that when it comes to Kilkenny hurling I just can't find anything to be humble about. Let me see 6 from the last 8, 9 from the last 13 All Irelands won, 21st smallest county in the country population wise, most senior, minor and under 21 titles won. I know that litany just bugs the daylights out of every man woman and child in Munster and in particular those from Tipp and Cork that is why love repeating it. It might not be nice but it is TRUE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Miccoli


    4 points ahead of Armagh in 2002...2 kicks of a ball is NOT "well ahead".
    Well beaten by a better Tyrone team in 2003.
    2005 final was a top notch game,best final I've seen.
    Kerry were never well ahead in 2008, so you're wrong again. Leading by 1 at halftime.
    You then mentioned 2011, but you were talking about the 2000's..tying yourself up in knots.

    Not at all your just being pedantic. Same core of the team in 2011 as there was in the mid 2000's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,525 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    donnem33 wrote: »
    I believe it's about time that there were 2 referees instead of 1 officiating at matches in both hurling and football. The game is gone too fast for one man to be able to see and judge everything and make every correct decision.

    completely agree. hurling at inter county should have 2 refs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    Original host of The Sunday Game.
    Tuam Heard journalist
    He used to do the commentary on the highlights of the Connaught Final for the Sunday Game back when there were no live games.

    Unique delivery is how I would describe his work.
    Thanks I cant for the life if me remember him, and Im old enough that I should, if I heard his voice id probably know it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Sky Sports will be good for the GAA.

    Dublin are prospering in both codes because of the work done by volunteers (like every other county) at grass roots level and not because of financial assistance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    ArielAtom wrote: »
    Sky Sports will be good for the GAA.

    Dublin are prospering in both codes because of the work done by volunteers (like every other county) at grass roots level and not because of financial assistance.

    Made possible by the extra finance available to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Pearlstone


    1. I will not watch any Ulster Championship football.

    2. Kilkenny hurlers are not as good as they were and are unlikely to win the AI this year.

    3. It is only a matter of time before senior inter county gaa will become professional. Players are not fools. Sky getting involved is the beginning of the end for the game as we know it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    Blue giant wrote: »
    Made possible by the extra finance available to them.

    Tbh I don't think Dublin's money is having half the effect people are trying to make it look like. It could be by sheer chance that Dublin have the best team simply because they're the most populated city.

    Are Dublin's teams even that good anyway compared to teams of the past? Their hurling team have only won a Leinster championship and a league, no U-21s, no minors. Their football team have only won two All-Irelands, albeit they've won 8 of the last 9 Leinsters but that's hardly surprising, two leagues, one minor AI, and 3 U-21s. It's hardly time to start panicking about Dublin having a monopoly over the championship just yet, maybe when they've won 6 or 7 in a row it's time to start looking at things.

    ^^^^^Now that's going to be an unpopular opinion.

    Is there anywhere where we can see the amount of money each county gets from the GAA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭feargale


    China will win the 2025 All-Ireland Junior hurling championship, beating Leitrim in the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    Its time that the gaa divided up the cash equally between all counties, its only a matter if time till fellas in other counties lose interest in gaa and start moving to soccer if they keep giving the most of the money to dublin and having them win everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Its time that the gaa divided up the cash equally between all counties, its only a matter if time till fellas in other counties lose interest in gaa and start moving to soccer if they keep giving the most of the money to dublin and having them win everything

    If we are going to look at level distribution of funding we must look at the numbers playing in each county. Is has to be done on a pro rata basis. I am assuming that is what you mean and not give every county say 150k for the year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭MacBizzle


    Its time that the gaa divided up the cash equally between all counties, its only a matter if time till fellas in other counties lose interest in gaa and start moving to soccer if they keep giving the most of the money to dublin and having them win everything

    But why should Leitrim, who have a population of 31798, get the same amount of money as Dublin, who have a population 1186000, do? Leitrim's population is 37 times smaller than Dublin's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Its time that the gaa divided up the cash equally between all counties, its only a matter if time till fellas in other counties lose interest in gaa and start moving to soccer if they keep giving the most of the money to dublin and having them win everything

    That would not be fair at all.

    So you propose that Leitrim get the same amount of money as Dublin, even though they have far fewer clubs and hugely different in terms of population?

    Soccer is hardly a beacon of light either in terms of financial fairness between that haves and have nots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Personally, I do think that Cluxton is overrated. A good player, no doubt, but I think saying that he revolutionised football is going a bit far... I really don't think his kickouts are quite as good as people say.

    Henry Shefflin is the best hurler ever, some people don't rate him as highly because he's not the most flashy... he's capable of being flashy when he wants, but his intelligence on the ball is supreme.

    John Galvin is the best midfielder of the last 15 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Fireball07 wrote: »

    John Galvin is the best midfielder of the last 15 years.

    Not sure if I'd go that far but he can't be far off. Used to love that guy, if he had less injuries and played for a better county he'd be known as a modern great. I remember him being a one man army against Kerry on more than one occasion, almost won games by himself for an average Limerick side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭donnem33


    Pearlstone wrote: »
    1. I will not watch any Ulster Championship football.

    2. Kilkenny hurlers are not as good as they were and are unlikely to win the AI this year.

    3. It is only a matter of time before senior inter county gaa will become professional. Players are not fools. Sky getting involved is the beginning of the end for the game as we know it.

    It would not be sustainable for the GAA to be professional! Im not sure if the vast majority of players would even like it to be professional, they just want to be treated fairly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭ciarriaithuaidh


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Personally, I do think that Cluxton is overrated. A good player, no doubt, but I think saying that he revolutionised football is going a bit far... I really don't think his kickouts are quite as good as people say.

    Henry Shefflin is the best hurler ever, some people don't rate him as highly because he's not the most flashy... he's capable of being flashy when he wants, but his intelligence on the ball is supreme.

    John Galvin is the best midfielder of the last 15 years.

    I'm no Dublin fan and it's a cliché at this stage, but I totally disagree with you, I think Cluxton HAS changed the way people think about kickouts especially. That is indisputable in my view. He has dipped in form as a shot-stopper I think and is not prone to getting rattled as we have seen, but still probably the best keeper I've ever seen.

    On John Galvin, always rated him highly and not just cos he's half a Kerryman.:D Being honest though, I can't agree that he is THE best midfielder of any period. He matched Darragh O'Sé (got the better of him once or twice) and many more, but the reality in the modern game is that the top teams aim to peak in August/September, so we don't know how he would have faired in Croker in Autumn against the best guys at their peak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    MacBizzle wrote: »
    But why should Leitrim, who have a population of 31798, get the same amount of money as Dublin, who have a population 1186000, do? Leitrim's population is 37 times smaller than Dublin's.

    But their has to be a fairer way than what we have now where the jacks get every advantage with so much money, playing in Crocker every chanpionship game, etc, how will that develop the game in countys like Carlow sligo lietrim etc? Fellas in those counties will just lose interst and look at taking up other sports, thats not good for the gaa


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I think it' a nonsense to suggest that the strides made in Dublin are due to extra funding. People throwing that out there are just looking for excuses for their own counties IMO.

    Dublin put great structures in place over the last 10 years and are now reaping the benefits. Most of the great work being done is by unpaid volunteers.

    The rest of the country could learn a lot from this rather than sniping from the sidelines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    My following theories usually raise a few eyebrows:

    1) The great Galway underage hurling teams are a myth as they are put straight into a quarter final each year so don't have to play a long tough inter provincial tournament. Teams like Cork/Tipp/Kilkenny have a long slog to get out of the province and with the break for the leaving cert they effectively have to peak twice.

    2) Henry Shefflin being the greatest hurler of all time. 9 all Irelands in the modern age will never again be repeated and he's Kilkenny's go to guy and a pure winner.

    3) DJ Carey's point against Clare when he put Ollie Baker on his a$$ not being as good as people make out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,467 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    There will eventually be 10 or maybe 12 pro teams competing for the AI football championship. A mixture of big counties like Dublin Cork etc and joint/make up teams from several counties. Subscription TV will fund it.


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