Unpopular GAA opinions you hold

STIG83 · 12-06-2014 07:36PM

savannahkat wrote: »

When it comes to Kilkenny in the Cody era the vast, vast, vast majority of Munster men and women cannot be objective through sheer green eyes jealousy. The green monster is rampant throughout Munster. Naming people who would not be fit to lace Shefflin's boots and promoting them as being just as good is a case in point.

Not just Munster, the whole country I'd say, we laughed our asses off when KK lost last year to Cork and also in 2010 when the 5 in a row was stopped by Tipp.

Professey Chin · 12-06-2014 07:41PM

STIG83 wrote: »

Not just Munster, the whole country I'd say, we laughed our asses off when KK lost year to Cork and also in 2010 when the 5 in a row was stopped by Tipp.

Shhhhh. Dont feed it

nice_guy80 · 12-06-2014 07:43PM

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Its because football is easier to play, requires three times less skills than hurling. To be fair, Ulster are doing a lot to promote hurling

London have two teams, the seniors that compete in the Connacht and All Ireland senior championships and the juniors which compete in the British and All Ireland junior championships

Lot of that is due to the man they put in as development officer - he has done huge amount of work. Just shows where there is a will, you will find a way

Yep, Eoin is a good man

digzy · 12-06-2014 07:53PM

Lar Corbett is one of the most overrated forwards in the game. I'm so bored of pundits going on about how dangerous he is. He got about 5 touches in the 2010 all Ireland and got hurler of the year and has gone 'missing' more often than not. Guys an opportunist, and best of luck to him.

Eoin Kelly (Tipp) is one of the genuine greats. The guy single handedly brought Tipp through so many of their games taking awful punishment in the 00s.He was past his best after 2008 but his class brought him through the last few years. A real legend but like in soccer people judged players by medal haul, eoin was better than 2 AIs and a few munsters. Let down by the mediocrity around him and managing him.

savannahkat · 12-06-2014 08:21PM

STIG83 wrote: »

Not just Munster, the whole country I'd say, we laughed our asses off when KK lost year to Cork and also in 2010 when the 5 in a row was stopped by Tipp.

Glad you had a chance to laugh your ass off at least twice in the past ten years. We have been laughing at the best efforts of you all to dethrone us for the other eight. What we did to Offally last weekend is only a foretaste of what we have in store for the rest of you pretenders over the next three months. Look at last weekend in the Munster chumpionship,one side did not know how to take a penalty and the other did not know how to stop it so they changed a 100 plus year old rule and then they had the cheek to call it a championship, the Munster chumpionship is actually the more correct description.

Frankie Lee · 12-06-2014 08:22PM

Prop Joe wrote: »

Carlow,laois,Offaly?

Along with Westmeath they do an excellent job at promoting both codes (Carlow struggle at football admittedly, they underachieve considering the relative strength of their clubs). They deserve great credit.

Paranoid Mandroid · 12-06-2014 08:33PM

Royce McCutcheon wrote: »

Cluxton is the most overrated palyer in the country.Despite having a good kickout he is lacking basic goalkeeping skills, I cant remember the last time he made a proper save and is brutal in the air as well.

Surprised a lot of people agreed with this. There ya go. He used to make unbelievable saves all the time though, must be the solid defenders doing a better job since the pillar caffrey era? I don't think he could be overrated when he's one of the best keepers in the country. I suppose I'm biased though.

savannahkat · 12-06-2014 08:43PM

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

Surprised a lot of people agreed with this. There ya go. He used to make unbelievable saves all the time though, must be the solid defenders doing a better job since the pillar caffrey era? I don't think he could be overrated when he's one of the best keepers in the country. I suppose I'm biased though.

No your just Paranoid

Frankie Lee · 12-06-2014 08:43PM

Yeah I don't know how anyone cant see the greatness of Cluxton. There may be some better shotstoppers out there and some better under the high ball but he is good at both. The other aspects of his game coupled with his leadership would probably make him the best of all time. If Shane Supple had stayed at soccer he would be Ireland's number 1 now and he couldn't oust him.

RoscommonTom · 12-06-2014 09:40PM

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Yeah I don't know how anyone cant see the greatness of Cluxton. There may be some better shotstoppers out there and some better under the high ball but he is good at both. The other aspects of his game coupled with his leadership would probably make him the best of all time. If Shane Supple had stayed at soccer he would be Ireland's number 1 now and he couldn't oust him.

pure rubbish, if he wasn't a Jack thered be nothing made of him, oleary from Dublin was way better than him, billy Morgan and the likes

breffni bogballer · 12-06-2014 10:00PM

the ulster sfc is brutal and has being for years

Royce McCutcheon · 12-06-2014 10:05PM

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Yeah I don't know how anyone cant see the greatness of Cluxton. There may be some better shotstoppers out there and some better under the high ball but he is good at both. The other aspects of his game coupled with his leadership would probably make him the best of all time. If Shane Supple had stayed at soccer he would be Ireland's number 1 now and he couldn't oust him.

I dont think he is a good shot stopper or under a high ball by inter county standards though, in recent years he reminds me of a goalkeeper for an Australian International rules team, he looks like he wants to do anything but goalkeeping

NavyandBlue · 12-06-2014 11:51PM

I have really enjoyed Mayo's crushing All-Ireland Final defeats in the past two years and hope they can secure three in a row this year.

wicklowwonder · 13-06-2014 12:06AM

Inter county football needs to be looked at. Scrap the leagues, play the provincial championships as warm ups then a World Cup like competition 32 teams play each in groups of 4 - top two teams in each group seeded . Play each team home and away, top two go thought to all Ireland bottom two to all Ireland b comp.

Make the b competitive by saying you get top seed next year if you win it and losing finalist gets a second seed spot. Also could give the 4 provincial winners a seed to make them more competitive.

Schedule it around club games, have weekends of games, have 8 games a weekend, so say groups 1-4 play two Friday night, two Saturday at say 5 and 7 and four games on Sundays. Have like 2,4 and 6 start times. Show one Friday on TV, both Saturday and three Sunday. While counties in 1-4 are playing this weekend 5-8 are playing club league matches and vice versa. Players on county panels who don't play more than 20 mins must be available for club the next weekend. Then start club championships once the knock out stages start. Again plan in advance when teams are playing knock out and weekends they have off so club master planners can plan their fixtures.

Much better solution.

savannahkat · 13-06-2014 01:05AM

When it comes to real GAA discussions gaelic football should be limited to sentences of no more than six words and banned altogether after the third reply.

Miccoli · 13-06-2014 01:16AM

The Kerry team of the 2000s were not that good. Never won a big game when the chips were down.

Jimoslimos · 13-06-2014 02:12AM

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Because its the ethos of GAA - having football, hurling, camogie, rounders and handball as one family of games, being played by every club and every county. Thats part of the one club model

My unpopular opinion: There should be a greater separation of the two codes, perhaps a full split. Too many county boards with vested interests one way or the other. It also seems at times that hurling suffers from trying to conform within the rules and designs of football. Same pitch and goal dimensions, number of players, types of fouls, etc. Probably convenience and resources dictates this.

Young players should be limited to playing at one intercounty age bracket per season - Minor/U21/Senior.

ciarriaithuaidh · 13-06-2014 02:49AM

Miccoli wrote: »

The Kerry team of the 2000s were not that good. Never won a big game when the chips were down.

Beat Armagh (with 14 men) in 2006 when big underdogs.
Beat Armagh in replayed semi final in 2000 after a titanic battle.
Beat Galway in 2000 final after a replay.
Beat hot favourites Cork in 2009 final.
First team in 17 years to put titles back to back.

Go again, there I'd say!

thegills · 13-06-2014 03:20AM

Everyone outside Dublin wants them to lose.
Teams raise their games for Croker making it harder for Dublin to win.
Dublin have saved GAA football from the negative tactics that were creeping into the game.
Dublin has fewer GAA players than most big counties so are punching way above their weight.
Kilkenny teams of all ages deliberately foul players to stop conceding goals.
There is no such thing as the 4 step rule.
Players get paid and get handed jobs in their counties.

thegills · 13-06-2014 03:54AM

Everyone outside Dublin wants them to lose.
Teams raise their games for Croker making it harder for Dublin to win.
Dublin have saved GAA football from the negative tactics that were creeping into the game.
Dublin has fewer GAA players than most big counties so are punching way above their weight.
Kilkenny teams of all ages deliberately foul players to stop conceding goals.
There is no such thing as the 4 step rule.
Players get paid and get handed jobs in their counties.

RoyalCelt · 13-06-2014 05:28AM

A strict 5/6 step rule should be brought in. 4 steps is too few and no ref ever pulls people up unless they got to 6 plus.

Louth were not wobbed in 2010. The ref was shocking for Meath for 60mins of that match. If he was fair we wouldn't have needed a dodgy goal to win the game. But I wish Seamus Kenny had of just fisted the ball over the bar instead. We would of hockeyed Louth in a replay just like we did in the qualifiers a year later.

wicklowwonder · 13-06-2014 06:09AM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

My unpopular opinion: There should be a greater separation of the two codes, perhaps a full split. Too many county boards with vested interests one way or the other. It also seems at times that hurling suffers from trying to conform within the rules and designs of football. Same pitch and goal dimensions, number of players, types of fouls, etc. Probably convenience and resources dictates this.
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Interesting.... I could support that too if done correctly.

BUNK1982 · 13-06-2014 09:11AM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

My unpopular opinion: There should be a greater separation of the two codes, perhaps a full split. Too many county boards with vested interests one way or the other. It also seems at times that hurling suffers from trying to conform within the rules and designs of football. Same pitch and goal dimensions, number of players, types of fouls, etc. Probably convenience and resources dictates this.

Young players should be limited to playing at one intercounty age bracket per season - Minor/U21/Senior.

That would be a discriminatory practice against Cork.

rebel girl 15 · 13-06-2014 09:27AM

Just a gentle reminder to everyone that this is not AH and there is strict enforcement of the charter for the rest of the championship, few replies above that are borderline

NavyandBlue · 13-06-2014 09:27AM

Kerry didn't "hand" the All-Ireland to Dublin in 2011 (as most recently repeated on the Sunday Game by C O'Rourke last Sunday.) Dublin were the better team for the first half (Kerry only managed to score on three occasions), better team for the first ten minutes of the second half (extending their lead to three points) before Kerry dominated from the 43' minute to the 64'. Dublin's goal arose from making a vital turnover in midfield (by pressuring the Kerry man in possession) and then outscored Kerry by three points to one in the final 7 minutes.

adrian522 · 13-06-2014 09:41AM

thegills wrote: »

Kilkenny teams of all ages deliberately foul players to stop conceding goals.
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Don't all teams do this? Certainly most do.

Tipperary certainly have no issue with this, the Offaly goalkeeper did this against Kilkenny just last week. In fact I don't think there is a single team that would not do this to prevent scoring goals.

It's certainly not just a Kilkenny thing.

thehouses · 13-06-2014 09:59AM

1. Soccer is just as competitive as GAA.
2. Players should be paid. Aren't there many involved in GAA that get paid already?

codie · 13-06-2014 10:11AM

The 2006 All-Ireland hurling final that Cork were done out of by the then Kilkenny Predisent Nickey Brennan.You could of done a silage cut that day the grass was so long.His tatic to slow down the likes of Ben and Jerry o Connor.

Opening up Croke Park.Concerts are fine but to give in to foreign sports was a mortal sin.It was the the last bit of heritage we had left.

Hibbeler · 13-06-2014 10:16AM

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Louth were not wobbed in 2010. The ref was shocking for Meath for 60mins of that match. If he was fair we wouldn't have needed a dodgy goal to win the game. But I wish Seamus Kenny had of just fisted the ball over the bar instead. We would of hockeyed Louth in a replay just like we did in the qualifiers a year later.

+1

Louth were a point up with 10 mins left and never tried to push on, they just let Meath come at them. You can't expect to win titles without being able to close out the game when you're ahead.

I rate the 96-01 Meath football team with Geraghty, Giles et al. higher than the team of the late eighties and feel that team could have won more

iDave · 13-06-2014 10:24AM

Hibbeler wrote: »

+1

Louth were a point up with 10 mins left and never tried to push on, they just let Meath come at them. You can't expect to win titles without being able to close out the game when you're ahead.

I rate the 96-01 Meath football team with Geraghty, Giles et al. higher than the team of the late eighties and feel that team could have won more

Imagine what those Meath teams could of done if they had qualifiers available to them.

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