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Do you know anyone whos been to prison and has been reformed?

  • 12-06-2014 08:57PM
    #1
    deseil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭


    I was watching orange is the new black the other night and it made me think...

    I know of quiet a few people who've been in prison, they have all either ended up back there or are on the way back in.

    I can't think of 1 example of someone who's been imprisoned who now leads a normal life eg a job, law abiding friends, a happy existence of any type.

    It must be so hard to do in fairness, unless of course your a genius at something, or can start your own business, who would employ you with a record?

    Has anyone any examples of someone who has turned their life around, or is your chance of a normal life gone for ever with a criminal record?


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  • #2
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    Nelson Mandela


  • #3
    Lucifer MorningStar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Lucifer MorningStar


    Padraig Nally


  • #4
    somuj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭somuj


    Larry murphy


  • #5
    SPM1959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭SPM1959


    I can think of a few people I know who went to prison and didn't get involved in crime again but can't say they turned their life around i.e long term unemployed and are going to live off the state for the rest of their lives.


  • #6
    desultory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭desultory


    That's the problem with prison, once you've been there you're forever a second class citizen with very little chance to better yourself


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  • #7
    C.K Dexter Haven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    Geoffrey Archer wrote a book when in prison- promising writer me thinks- one to watch in future best seller lists.


  • #8
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Deirdre Barlow.


  • #9
    SPM1959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭SPM1959


    desultory wrote: »
    That's the problem with prison, once you've been there you're forever a second class citizen with very little chance to better yourself

    In smaller towns too, everyone knows your past.


  • #10
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Henri Charriere


  • #11
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Bubbles, he must be an upstanding citizen on here by now.

    The only people I know who have went to prison are some of the taxi drivers I chat to, so no. :pac:


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  • #12
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    Bubbles , he must be an upstanding citizen on here by now.

    The only people I know who have went to prison are some of the taxi drivers I chat to, so no. :pac:

    :confused:


  • #13
    murphydublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭murphydublin


    A friend of mine from school went through an extended rebellious stage and went to young offenders twice and spent a fortnight in the joy. 15 years later he is settled married 2 kids and a job. So yeah i think they can, not all but some :)


  • #14
    Teyla Emmagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    I don't know anyone who's been to prison, not even for a fine.

    I must lead a sheltered life!


  • #15
    Alf. A. Male
    Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Alf. A. Male


    Ronnie Barker went on to have a shop in the north of England after he came out of prison.


  • #16
    fermanagh_man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fermanagh_man


    Few Sinn Fein councillors


  • #17
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    facekicker wait no.


  • #18
    greenflash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭greenflash


    C.K Dexter Haven wrote: »
    Geoffrey Archer wrote a book when in prison- promising writer me thinks- one to watch in future best seller lists.


    Adolf Hitler also wrote a book in prison...


  • #19
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,498 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    A lot depends on what you're put in prison for. Some crimes you have less chance of re-offending.


  • #20
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    greenflash wrote: »
    Adolf Hitler also wrote a book in prison...

    A camping guide or something, wasn't it?


  • #21
    pauldla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Alf. A. Male wrote: »
    Ronnie Barker went on to have a shop in the north of England after he came out of prison.

    Yes, but the experience scarred him deeply and left him with a terrible stammer. The poor man....


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  • #22
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Banjo String wrote: »
    :confused:

    Close enough. Before my time too. Here's what we missed.

    :D

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=342508


  • #23
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    One lad who works for us - he did 6 years before the age of 23. Now works full time, has a car, rents a house, him and gf are trying for a kid, keeps his nose clean and head down. People change. Or at least they try. If they get a chance.


  • #24
    Sunglasses Ron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    One lad who works for us - he did 6 years before the age of 23.

    Six year stint at 16/ 17?

    Death or rape surely, what were the circumstances out of curiosity? It's hard to get six weeks before you're 18!


  • #25
    Holsten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Yes multiple people.

    The current system is a mess though, everything is sacked against someone upon release.


  • #26
    neamhspleachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭neamhspleachi


    My kid brother went to prison, got off the needle & got himself a degree & is now counselling others that are just like he was way back in the day


  • #27
    CelticRambler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Yep, know a few. Sending them to prison was counter-productive because (a) their 'crimes' were crimes of principle or fighting against the system, and the system can't rehabilitate people who don't believe in it; and (b) having gone through the system once, they realised that being "in prison" is nowhere near as bad as it's portrayed, so for each of them now it has zero deterrent effect.


  • #28
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,081 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Nick Leeson

    Seems to be using his reputation as the worlds worst banker to sell himself as a non licensed financial advisor

    Its a strange world we live in

    Ban billionaires



  • #29
    Davarus Walrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    One lad who works for us - he did 6 years before the age of 23. Now works full time, has a car, rents a house, him and gf are trying for a kid, keeps his nose clean and head down. People change. Or at least they try. If they get a chance.

    When you come from the school of hard knocks then I suppose graduating with distinction from the university of life is easy.


  • #30
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    If you follow the charter and posting guidelines then you should avoid prison in the first place.

    I've seen a few get released and their behaviour has improved no end.


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  • #31
    Sunglasses Ron
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »
    Padraig Nally


    I hope he hasn't reformed personally :)


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