Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

bangkok wrote: »

but you also need a world class striker to finish off them chances, like rvp 2 years ago. Ozil had 15-20 assists at real Madrid a season because he had Ronaldo and benzema to pass to, he comes to arsenal he is still giving the same passes but its to giroud, bendtner or sanogo and his stats are down because of the poor quality he is passing to

Would say Ozil was hampered more by style than quality. He needs pace to aim at, and apart from Walcott arsenal don't have it going beyond defenders.

Girourd and the other forwards come for the ball or look for a cross, rather than a dinked pass in behind. Ramsey's return (and his desire to get beyond the forward/defenders) brought out more in Ozil in the last games, imo.

Regardless, I don't think there are many chances created by great rooney number 10 play showing creativity and vision, forgetting about goals. More often we see attacks breaking down in the final third from Rooney due to him miscontrolling it or passing it into a defenders shin. In a tight space, he simply isn't that good, or at least not consistently.

Yup, Fabregas to Chelsea confirmed on SSN

Chelsea going to be hard to beat to the title next year.

STROOTMAN TO THE RESCUE!

RasTa wrote: »

Solid signing alright, surprised we weren't in for him

Players like Fabregas are completely out of our range since we don't have Champions League football.

Before the pitchforks come out.

Looks to be the case Cesc chose Chelsea. Indications are offers were on the table...Barca provided the player the choice as most of the financials were the same ...he chose Chelsea.

Sounds very possible we were one of the choices.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I haven;t checked - but i'm convinced a good percentage of his assists came from set pieces (frees and corners) and crosses from wide. It deosn't devalue the assist itself I suppose, but it doesn't show that he is creative, which is the reason I dislike him at 10. He works hard, and spreads play, but he rarely will unlock a defence a packed defence with quick feet and vision, which is what I want from my 10.

I wasn't trying to prove anything about the quality of Rooney as a number 10 with that mention of assist numbers, rather that Teamshadowclan seems to be applying more rigour in his criticism of Rooney than of RvP.

I think Rooney is better then he's given credit for as a 10 but he needs a team with a fully functioning midfield. Even then, I think Mata is always going to be a better 10 unless you have some very specific requirements that Rooney can fill for the odd game. The squad is such a mess with so much money wasted at this stage. Having Rooney, RvP, Mata, Kagawa, Hernandez and Welbeck all in one squad is just stupid.

The best I can find for a break down of Rooney's assists is on premierleague.com: He had 10 assists, 3 from crosses and 7 from passes. It doesn't give details about set pieces or blocked shots leading to goals.