Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Dickerty · 10-06-2014 12:17PM

djPSB wrote: »

According to twitter, Moreno deal has stalled as Sevilla want all the money up front.

That rarely happens these days. We need to force the issue - is anyone else really willing to match what we are offering? There are only so many clubs in the market for LBs...

Augmerson · 10-06-2014 12:24PM

Dickerty wrote: »

That rarely happens these days. We need to force the issue - is anyone else really willing to match what we are offering? There are only so many clubs in the market for LBs...

Now would be the time to see about Ashley Cole, and let it be known too. If Moreno fell through he would be a good addition. Wages might be a negative factor but maybe a pay per play deal could be worked out?

x43r0 · 10-06-2014 12:28PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Now would be the time to see about Ashley Cole, and let it be known too. If Moreno fell through he would be a good addition. Wages might be a negative factor but maybe a pay per play deal could be worked out?

Realistically I don't think that's an option. Cole could get a proper deal somewhere else so has no incentive to go for something like that

Also, how often do PAYP deals actually happen these days?

Dickerty · 10-06-2014 12:30PM

Augmerson wrote: »

Now would be the time to see about Ashley Cole, and let it be known too. If Moreno fell through he would be a good addition. Wages might be a negative factor but maybe a pay per play deal could be worked out?

I do think he'd be a low-risk move, he's proven quality and has 2/3 year of top level left in him. But I suspect the club would prefer a long-term move for a younger player, and let the experienced Enrique provide the back-up...

Dickerty · 10-06-2014 12:31PM

x43r0 wrote: »

Realistically I don't think that's an option. Cole could get a proper deal somewhere else so has no incentive to go for something like that

Well we don't know what offers me may get. He'll want to still play at a CL level I am sure, so that might draw him to us. He's sure as sheet not going back to Arsenal, and I don't think City would bother with him.
Is he the type to try Spain or France at this stage?

mike65 · 10-06-2014 12:32PM

I think Moreno deal will happen, Sevilla are just chancing their arm with their demands, hoping to set up an auction - no doubt hoping Spurs are interested for real!

Francie Barrett · 10-06-2014 12:34PM

Think I shall be having some money on Villa to get relegated this season. They've just supplemented their squad with Joe Cole and Senderos.

Agent Coulson · 10-06-2014 12:40PM

Joe Cole and Roy Keane( If he takes the Villa job) that's reality tv I'd pay to see.

Hidalgo · 10-06-2014 12:40PM

Dickerty wrote: »

That rarely happens these days. We need to force the issue - is anyone else really willing to match what we are offering? There are only so many clubs in the market for LBs...

If Rakitic is gone, do Sevilla really need to sell.
If Liverpool go elsewhere for a LB, that doesn't necessarily mean that Seville will have to take a cut price on Moreno, if they're stuck with Moreno next season its hardly a disaster for them

Hidalgo · 10-06-2014 12:43PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Think I shall be having some money on Villa to get relegated this season. They've just supplemented their squad with Joe Cole and Senderos.

Flies in the face of what Villa have been about under Lambert with older high wage earners going out the door and replaced by young potential/talent on smaller pay packets

Knex* · 10-06-2014 12:45PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Joe Cole and Roy Keane( If he takes the Villa job) that's reality tv I'd pay to see.

I'd probably still just stream it.

Dickerty · 10-06-2014 12:54PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

If Rakitic is gone, do Sevilla really need to sell.
If Liverpool go elsewhere for a LB, that doesn't necessarily mean that Seville will have to take a cut price on Moreno, if they're stuck with Moreno next season its hardly a disaster for them

They didn't get that much for Rakitic, so although they say they are under no pressure to sell, for a position like LB, they could replace him with a youngster from a La Liga team and pocket £10M easy...

djPSB · 10-06-2014 12:57PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Think I shall be having some money on Villa to get relegated this season. They've just supplemented their squad with Joe Cole and Senderos.

Good shout.

looder · 10-06-2014 01:25PM

RainMaker wrote: »

X-pac sucks!

That was Chyna, I think.

shamrock55 · 10-06-2014 01:57PM

Is moreno worth the money seville are looking for, he didnt make the spain squad yet we are ready to fork out 16m for him, i honestly know nothing about him

Devilman40k · 10-06-2014 02:02PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Is moreno worth the money seville are looking for, he didnt make the spain squad yet we are ready to fork out 16m for him, i honestly know nothing about him

Being at the world cup isn't the be all end all of football. Just to put in perspective Torres is going with Spain!!

Moreno didn't make the final squad but he was on standby if injury arose. He made the final 30 and he'll get his shot at the WC.

shamrock55 · 10-06-2014 02:05PM

Devilman40k wrote: »

Being at the world cup isn't the be all end all of football. Just to put in perspective Torres is going with Spain!!

Moreno didn't make the final squad but he was on standby if injury arose. He made the final 30 and he'll get his shot at the WC.

Exactly, torres is going and he is ****e

greendom · 10-06-2014 02:17PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Exactly, torres is going and he is ****e

Not to mention Johnson :pac:

Utopia Parkway · 10-06-2014 02:21PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Is moreno worth the money seville are looking for, he didnt make the spain squad yet we are ready to fork out 16m for him, i honestly know nothing about him

I haven't really watched enough of him but he was very close to making the Spain squad as a 21 year old. Would tend to indicate that he has a lot of potential.

super_furry · 10-06-2014 03:36PM

No quotes, so it's probably plucked out of the air but Metro claim that Ronaldo doesn't want Suarez and Madrid....which is nice. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/10/cristiano-ronaldos-dislike-of-luis-suarez-to-real-madrid-rumours-is-music-to-liverpools-ears-4756672/

mike65 · 10-06-2014 03:44PM

Of course he doesn't!

klose · 10-06-2014 03:45PM

Unless suso is guaranteed game time i would say he will be off and i cant see him getting ahead of any of our current attackers, thats before we add some this summer so id say he will be sold. Hopefully we insert one of those buy back clauses but id imagine porto wont be dealing with us if we did.

Turtyturd · 10-06-2014 03:52PM

Poor 'Ronnie' such a diva that he doesn't want to share the 'not able to do it against the big teams' spotlight with Luis.

Francie Barrett · 10-06-2014 04:01PM

Moreno is behind Alba (first choice Barca LB) and Azpilcueta (first choice Chelsea LB who took Cole's place). Given his age and lack of CL experience, it's certainly not disgrace for him to be left out of the Spanish squad.

djPSB · 10-06-2014 04:17PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Moreno is behind Alba (first choice Barca LB) and Azpilcueta (first choice Chelsea LB who took Cole's place). Given his age and lack of CL experience, it's certainly not disgrace for him to be left out of the Spanish squad.

So comparing it to Paul McShane being left out of an Ireland squad would be an unfair comparison?

LuckyLloyd · 10-06-2014 04:37PM

Hidalgo wrote: »

Flies in the face of what Villa have been about under Lambert with older high wage earners going out the door and replaced by young potential/talent on smaller pay packets

Worked so well for them huh?

michael999999 · 10-06-2014 05:52PM

super_furry wrote: »

No quotes, so it's probably plucked out of the air but Metro claim that Ronaldo doesn't want Suarez and Madrid....which is nice. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/10/cristiano-ronaldos-dislike-of-luis-suarez-to-real-madrid-rumours-is-music-to-liverpools-ears-4756672/

He won't have to worry about it!

If Suarez is going to Madrid, himself and bale are coming here!

Agueroooo · 10-06-2014 06:25PM

Don't forget Villa is up for sale and they are just doing exactly what we did in the time of uncertainty.

Buying hasbeens that can get a high wage at a club knowing they are desperate to maintain a PL position, and see them through a season of uncertainty with a club sale etc.

In a way the Joe Coles of this world need to be admired for the tact even though it's not pretty it's bringing them riches.

Hidalgo · 10-06-2014 07:37PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Worked so well for them huh?

I'm assuming the plan is/was to be a better business model in a move away from the Martin O' Neill era of Spend big on a player, pay him big wages and then be left with little choice but to take a financial hit to get him off the books.

Its not like they were winning anything the old way. Possibly part of Ellis' plans to make the club more attractive to potential buyers

I am pie · 10-06-2014 07:46PM

Bored in work, so looked at the first few pages of the Liverpool v Villa match thread in Aug at the start of last season. Lots of optimism and praise for Villa, lots of doubt around Liverpool. Regardless of Liverpool's progress, not many would have foreseen Villa's collapse. Sad to see them as a dumping ground for the likes of Joe Cole and without stability. Solid club, hope to see them turn it around.

Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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