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Why is Aer Lingus so expensive ?

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  • #32
    nabanoba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭nabanoba


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Why not?

    It's a US government decree that these security checks have to be in place.

    But yourself in charge of an airport. Would you pay millions a year to pay for security checks or would you charge each customer 4$ each. Think about it.


  • #33
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    nabanoba wrote: »
    As well as being a wannabe pilot I work as a travel agent selling long-haul flights. The price of long-haul flights depends on 2 things, the first is season and the second is availability. ........ Supply and demand baby!...
    Thanks for the lengthy and well explained post. Its what most of us were trying to get across


  • #34
    ProfessorPlum
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    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Why not?

    Regardless of who 'pays for them' the cost will filter down to you, the end user.

    (So charging them directly to the passenger just cuts out the middle man, saves on accounting etc.)


  • #35
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,782 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    nabanoba wrote: »
    As well as being a wannabe pilot I work as a travel agent selling long-haul flights. The price of long-haul flights depends on 2 things, the first is season and the second is availability.

    Your flights are expensive as you want to go in the Irish summer holidays, so obviously airlines up there prices from flights leaving Ireland at this time. Not all airlines are aware of Irish summer holidays, but Aer Lingus certainly are so will up the price. Flying via England where it's low-season and not summer holidays is obviously a lot cheaper. For evidence of this in action look at flights from GLA/EDI to DXB in early July where it is the Scottish holidays and not in England, then change the search to NCL to see how much you'd save by flying from England.

    The second reason your flight is expensive is availability. Flights have different booking classes, the lowest being the cheapest with a set amount of seats available for that price. When these sell out you go up to the next price. Flights also become available for sale 331 days before departure and you've waited to 4 weeks beforehand to book so of course it's going to be expensive!

    Finally the Aer Lingus flights are direct so will be more expensive. If you search from LHR to NYC with EI via DUB the price could very well be cheaper, due to it being less direct and increased competition. 'But that makes no sense as it's more flying' I hear you cry. Supply and demand baby!


    As an aside yes that tax is 4$ for your extra security checks. Someone has to pay for them and it surely ain't going to be the airport!



    The key phrase omitted there is "School holidays" - Irish and Scottish school holidays start at the end of June, while in England and Wales it's not until late July.


    Airlines and holiday companies all increase their fares during the peak school holiday periods, the same happens during mid-term breaks.


  • #36
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,490 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    lxflyer wrote: »
    The key phrase omitted there is "School holidays" - Irish and Scottish school holidays start at the end of June,

    Emmm secondry schools?

    Off season in november, I got snn to jfk return for €374 during one of their sales. I was amazed.

    And surely people have realise that dub to yyz is competed against, by Air Transat.


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  • #37
    leeroybrown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Emmm secondry schools?
    Primary schools. Their holidays start on July 1st normally in Ireland and Scotland but not until mid-July in England.
    Carnacalla wrote: »
    And surely people have realise that dub to yyz is competed against, by Air Transat.
    They'll charge you just as much unless you're flying on off peak days and times.


  • #38
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Emmm secondry schools?

    Off season in november, I got snn to jfk return for €374 during one of their sales. I was amazed.

    And surely people have realise that dub to yyz is competed against, by Air Transat.

    And air canada and now westjet


  • #39
    billy few mates
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    We all understand the concepts of supply and demand, variable and fixed costs, seasonal demand and all the other elements that are taken into consideration when setting a fare price, the point being made is that after all these factors are taken into account an Aer Lingus long haul fare will often be considerably more expensive than any of its competitors, in my experience anyway.


  • #40
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    billy few mates wrote: »
    We all understand the concepts of supply and demand, variable and fixed costs, seasonal demand and all the other elements that are taken into consideration when setting a fare price, the point being made is that after all these factors are taken into account an Aer Lingus long haul fare will often be considerably more expensive than any of its competitors, in my experience anyway.

    If you know all the concepts then whats your point, during peak summer months EI operate long haul routes with load factors of 90%+ so based on this they can afford to be more expensive than competitors and unless there is a real decline in demand it will continue to be the case.


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