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Multiple People Shot in Walmart Las Vegas 5 Dead (Curently) in Suicide Pact

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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    take the guns away already how many more have to die before something happen i really thought when all those kids died it was the boiling point but yet is was not

    http://www.mynews3.com/mostpopular/story/Five-killed-including-2-Metro-officers-in-shootout/D9ijUJ5li0WVolLrKpXz6A.cspx

    :(

    Thank god in countries such as Ireland where access to guns is controlled and handgun are illegal there's never any gun crime.


  • Posts: 11,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thank god in countries such as Ireland where access to guns is controlled and handgun are illegal there's never any gun crime.

    gun nuts say Truly tragic events. If this is true it isn't about guns though, its about crazy people. yet crazy people with easy access to guns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    If you want to kill yourself just do it and get the **** off this earth instead of killing random people before you do it. Gob****es.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gun nuts say Truly tragic events. If this is true it isn't about guns though, its about crazy people. yet crazy people with easy access to guns

    Guns do t kill people. If someone intends to go out and kill another person then they'll find a way, gun or no gun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    gun nuts say Truly tragic events. If this is true it isn't about guns though, its about crazy people. yet crazy people with easy access to guns
    Do you mean the NRA when you say crazy people?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Guns do t kill people. If someone intends to go out and kill another person then they'll find a way, gun or no gun

    Pretty hard to stab(insert other method) a load of adults to death without being restrained, Fairly easy to shoot people though. Easy access to guns is the problem esp people who are not mentally stable. not trying to sound harsh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Guns do t kill people.
    ... rappers do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    ... rappers do.

    Bullets do?


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    ... rappers do.

    You too saw that documentary on the BBC2


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pretty hard to stab(insert other method) a load of adults to death without being restrained, Fairly easy to shoot people though. Easy access to guns is the problem esp people who are not mentally stable. not trying to sound harsh.

    Plenty of incidents when individuals armed with knives have gone on a rampage. All well and good saying its easy to restrain someone with a knife but I don't imagine many people would be quick to try it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    wazky wrote: »
    Bullets do?

    No it's always rappers, from Bristol zoo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Razleavy


    Pretty hard to stab(insert other method) a load of adults to death without being restrained, Fairly easy to shoot people though. Easy access to guns is the problem esp people who are not mentally stable. not trying to sound harsh.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367

    29 killed and 130 injured due to knife wielding men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    ... rappers do.

    Seen it in a documentary on bbc2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I wonder what is it about America that has so many people, young people, that go on murder sprees?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Plenty of incidents when individuals armed with knives have gone on a rampage. All well and good saying its easy to restrain someone with a knife but I don't imagine many people would be quick to try it

    True but are the body counts anywhere near what they are when a gun is used. I find it interesting pro gun people in the USA saying the solution is more guns. Not saying you, If more guns was the solution why don't you get these people taken down by other members of the public as soon as they start firing ? Seems to me that all more guns do is give easy access to guns to go on rampages.
    Razleavy wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367

    29 killed and 130 injured due to knife wielding men.

    Not a very good example that one in China, Those perpetrators were probably specifically trained in using these weapons your general Joe public i doubt could cause that amount of carnage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Guns do t kill people. If someone intends to go out and kill another person then they'll find a way, gun or no gun

    I had this argument on boards previously some gun nuts went wild in America.
    Guns make it childs play to kill multiple people. A knife is obviously dangerous but not in the same sense. There's also the argument that some counties can have little murders with relaxed gun laws but this doesn't seem to be the case in the US.
    They really should crush the NRA in this everlasting debate and just tighten their gun laws for the good of the country. The argument that it keeps their freedom is nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Razleavy


    True but are the body counts anywhere near what they are when a gun is used. I find it interesting pro gun people in the USA saying the solution is more guns. Not saying you, If more guns was the solution why don't you get these people taken down by other members of the public as soon as they start firing ? Seems to me that all more guns do is give easy access to guns to go on rampages.

    29 people dead from a knife attack isn't anywhere near as many as a gun? 130 injured in that same attack all from knives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭poisonated


    Vegas is a fairly dangerous spot. I was in that cicis before. Odd!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Razleavy wrote: »
    29 people dead from a knife attack isn't anywhere near as many as a gun? 130 injured in that same attack all from knives.

    See my edited post. As i said generally this was an extreme example of what could be achieved by multiple men with bladed weapons. I highly doubt someone without any bladed weapon combat training could come anywhere near that. is a little dishonest to say there generally as dangerous as guns. As if they were why would solders bother with guns and not just use bladed weapons....

    And were talking about mass shootings in America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    It really is probably time the U.S reviewed their gun laws. When they were initially drawn up, guns were less powerful, both guns and people were less common and the sort of ****e thats happening with increasing regularity today, was less common aswell.
    Time to change, America.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    It really is probably time the U.S reviewed their gun laws. When they were initially drawn up, guns were less powerful, both guns and people were less common and the sort of ****e thats happening with increasing regularity today, was less common aswell.
    Time to change, America.

    True and they have shown multiple times through recent history that culturally they are not responsible enough to have easy access to this level of firepower. I mean in public circulation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Thank god in countries such as Ireland where access to guns is controlled and handgun are illegal there's never any gun crime.

    Oh for fucck sake, there is no comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    I had this argument on boards previously some gun nuts went wild in America.
    Guns make it childs play to kill multiple people. A knife is obviously dangerous but no in the same sense. There's also the argument that some counties can have little murders with relaxed gun laws but this doesn't seem to be the case in the US.
    They really should crush the NRA in this everlasting debate and just tighten their gun laws for the good of the country. The argument that it keeps their freedom is nonsense.

    "Tighten up the gun laws!"

    Yeah because people in America will not have access to the millions of weapons in circulation because the laws are stricter.

    This a society wide problem of wanting to be infamous in death. Guns are once again the symptom not the cause, but don't let that stop the lazy agenda pushers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I wonder what is it about America that has so many people, young people, that go on murder sprees?

    Yeah, this. Far more important that a debate on the second amendment imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Davei141 wrote: »
    "Tighten up the gun laws!"

    Yeah because people in America will not have access to the millions of weapons in circulation because the laws are stricter.

    This a society wide problem of wanting to be infamous in death. Guns are once again the symptom not the cause, but don't let that stop the lazy agenda pushers.

    Yes Guns are the symptom of guns being used to carry out mass Gun killings.
    c_man wrote: »
    Yeah, this. Far more important that a debate on the second amendment imo.

    When do said young people not generally use guns to commit these mass shootings ? Surely easy access to guns is a problem. People have access to make bombs in America but you don’t get many mass bombings do you ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Do you mean the NRA when you say crazy people?

    It was some of their people who recommended arming teachers a
    fter the last school shooting.

    Definitely crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    RustyNut wrote: »
    It was some of their people who recommended arming teachers a
    fter the last school shooting.

    Definitely crazy
    .

    Plenty of the public in America are armed yet you still get mass shootings that's what I'm trying to point out. So why is the answer more guns that's what i don't get


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,923 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    access to make bombs in America but you don’t get many mass bombings do you ?

    Building a bomb and having it detonate successfully is a tad more difficult than pulling a trigger.

    The US isn't shy of bombings though. Remember the pressure cooker one recently at the marathon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    It really is probably time the U.S reviewed their gun laws. When they were initially drawn up, guns were less powerful, both guns and people were less common and the sort of ****e thats happening with increasing regularity today, was less common aswell.
    Time to change, America.

    When they were initially drawn up, the brand new nation had just fought an empire for its independence and thought it'd be handy to have a standing militia to protect itself. 200+ years later, when they are the empire... not so handy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Yes Guns are the symptom of guns being used to carry out mass Gun killings.



    When do said young people not generally use guns to commit these mass shootings ? Surely easy access to guns is a problem. People have access to make bombs in America but you don’t get many mass bombings do you ?

    So no guns = no mass killings is that how it goes? Keep dreaming.


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